How Do You Guys Feel About Kids?

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Not with a wife or girlfriend- but via adoption? Good idea or bad idea?

Also, do adoption agencies look unfavorably upon single men?

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

I can confirm that adoption agencies look disfavourably upon single men. Surrogacy might be a viable option.

[UmbreonParticipant 152]

I think adoption is a great idea, period! It lowers the crime rate while giving existing children a chance at a better life.

Out where I live they don’t care if you’re a single guy as long as you have the means to care for the kids. There’s an older guy down the street who is a professor with many adopted children. His wife died many years ago, but he still is kicking round and frequently adopts children with problems and older kids that nobody else wants.

He is in good health, has a big house, a stable job with tenure, financial planning, investments, plans in case of sudden death, and more than enough to care for himself and others for decades. The professor has no trouble adopting kids. Social services checks on things now and then and to make sure everything is still good (it always is) but the hardest part, he says, is picking them out and waiting for the papers to clear.

Now, if you’re middle-class and barely making it in a tiny house you may have trouble. Social services wants to be sure the kids won’t push you into debt and that your home is good enough to keep them safe, happy, and sound. Also be prepared as foster kids can be a handful as they have been through hell and really haven’t had parents to straighten them out for awhile. Of course getting them decent parents will fix this, which is another reason that they are careful with who gets to adopt and who doesn’t.

It’s also possible to temporarily foster kids who need out of bad situations. This one is more lenient, but you still need at least a bedroom ready to go and decent finances.

Beauty fades, dumb is forever.

[ApplejackSpectator 235]

I’ve always hated kids – of all ages.  The sweet spot is definitely 7-10.  But 0-6 they’re pretty terrible and 11-18 they’re just ass holes.

But in reality, they’re a VERY expensive accident, as let’s be honest here, the vast majority of children are accidents.  Sure, there are some manginas that want to give their wives a kid, but there aren’t that many men that are deluded enough to actually want to take on that expense and responsibility.  If they do want it at first, they come to realize later that it wasn’t worth it.  I mean, let’s be honest here.  Was it worth the THOUSANDS of hours of your time and the $250,000+ it took to raise the thing?  That’s a LOT of hookers and a really NICE house in some areas.  Or a brand new $50,000 car every three years, not counting the trade-in value you got for each previous vehicle.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

It’s a huge financial and emotional investment. Better be prepared.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

They’re nice but I couldn’t eat a whole one ?

Been a dad of a girl for near 20 years.

You can never imagine how hard, how beating on your soul it is. How your life and focus change. How you are no longer No1.

Not only that … it will NEVER stop.

Forget adopting. Find a cerigat and get in done with.

Good luck.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

I can confirm that adoption agencies look disfavourably upon single men. Surrogacy might be a viable option.

Has an unmarried man ever successfully adopted a child in the history of western civilization? I can’t imagine anyone giving a child to a man with no female in the picture.

Having said that, I’ve made more than one attempt to engage myself in the lives of the children of my platonic female acquaintances. There was a time when I believed I wanted a wife and family but realizing that wasn’t going to happen, thought perhaps I could play “big brother” to someone else’s kids from time to time. There was a man in my life as a kid who mentored and inspired me and I figured it was my turn to give back. Unfortunately I can’t say it’s worked out all that well.

The first one’s mother made a wild accusation against me which propelled me out of the kid’s life like I was fired from a cannon. The second ones… well they didn’t have much use for a man in their lives, the same as their mother. One was angry and disinterested and the other just used her charm and social skill to try to get goodies out of me.

Well what do you expect? Having your own kids sucks and having someone else’s is even worse. So now I only wave and make faces at kids to p~~~ off their parents. My favorite is to throw a nod at a young dude in the car in the next lane as if to say “Someday you can have a motorcycle like this if you play your cards right.”

So if anyone else tries to bring a kid into my house in the future, I’m just gonna tell them I’m on a list and let them figure it out for themselves. Thank you again, Doug Stanhope!

[TyrolvaParticipant 99]

Applejack wrote:

I’ve always hated kids – of all ages. The sweet spot is definitely 7-10. But 0-6 they’re pretty terrible and 11-18 they’re just ass holes. But in reality, they’re a VERY expensive accident, as let’s be honest here, the vast majority of children are accidents. Sure, there are some manginas that want to give their wives a kid, but there aren’t that many men that are deluded enough to actually want to take on that expense and responsibility. If they do want it at first, they come to realize later that it wasn’t worth it. I mean, let’s be honest here. Was it worth the THOUSANDS of hours of your time and the $250,000+ it took to raise the thing? That’s a LOT of hookers and a really NICE house in some areas. Or a brand new $50,000 car every three years, not counting the trade-in value you got for each previous vehicle.

I agree 100%. It’s not like there’s any shortage of kids anyway. If your motive for kids is that you wanted to provide for others, wouldn’t it be more effective to use that money for charity, where more people benefit from it, such as starting a soup kitchen or something?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Take a washcloth or small towel. Soak it in water, wring it out, fold, and place in the freezer for 10 to 20 min.

Prepare a dose of your favorite adult beverage.

Recline, place frozen towel on forehead, consume beverage.

Urge to have kids should dissipate about the time it takes towel to warm up to room temperature.

Disclaimer. I am a confirmed bachelor who thinks kids should be admired from a distance. I know of many men who have had their lives ruined by false claims of child abuse. Some were close friends when that dropped in their unsuspecting laps. One had it done to him by his wife so she could come out on top of a bitter divorce (she was a prosecuting attorney and knew the tricks of the trade). Thus, I am wary of the whole thing.

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[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

i love my kids, nieces and nephews.  i can tolerate other people’s kids.  can’t stand parents who don’t teach respect and discipline.  i would never adopt.  i have an issue with raising other people’s kids.  that’s just me.  i wouldn’t discourage anybody else who wanted to do it.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[RennieParticipant]

Applejack wrote:

I’ve always hated kids – of all ages. The sweet spot is definitely 7-10. But 0-6 they’re pretty terrible and 11-18 they’re just ass holes. But in reality, they’re a VERY expensive accident, as let’s be honest here, the vast majority of children are accidents. Sure, there are some manginas that want to give their wives a kid, but there aren’t that many men that are deluded enough to actually want to take on that expense and responsibility. If they do want it at first, they come to realize later that it wasn’t worth it. I mean, let’s be honest here. Was it worth the THOUSANDS of hours of your time and the $250,000+ it took to raise the thing? That’s a LOT of hookers and a really NICE house in some areas. Or a brand new $50,000 car every three years, not counting the trade-in value you got for each previous vehicle.

Don’t hate kids myself, but I don’t really like them either. They cost too much, are a liability, you can’t raise them without government/nanny state interference(no spanking) and these days women don’t want to do their job and look after the damned things like they’re supposed to, they think you as a man are supposed to do that.

[UntamedParticipant]

Oneforfreedom wrote:

Not with a wife or girlfriend- but via adoption? Good idea or bad idea? Also, do adoption agencies look unfavorably upon single men?

Good topic!

Children are the Future, literally. Time is witnessed, it has no conscience of its own. They are a blessing, in my opinion. They carry the very best in us while being their own agent. It’s no wonder the wemins in Roman antiquity sought after a gladiator’s seed. They were considered super-humans… even if short-lived.

It’s a great idea to adopt a child, any child. The Church should have spear-headed Adoption over Marriage. Men are known to be able to procreate in the harshest of conditions but misery and was makes orphans.

In our current systems of things, as a man who goes his own way, you’ll have to prove that you are a first-class citizen to be able to adopt. There might be some adoption organization that views Men as equals to Women, but I don’t know any.

 

 

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[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

I can confirm that adoption agencies look disfavourably upon single men. Surrogacy might be a viable option.

Yeh.

If you can’t/aren’t allowed to adopt then surrogacy imho. Unless :

RoyDal wrote:

Disclaimer. I am a confirmed bachelor who thinks kids should be admired from a distance. I know of many men who have had their lives ruined by false claims of child abuse. Some were close friends when that dropped in their unsuspecting laps

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[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Kids have become a scourge on men.  Men do not “need” children.  They want them.  Any consequences are on the idiot that has the kids.  Use a condom.

If you have a kid you can just walk away.  Yeah people will complain about you but bastards have always been bastards and there is a reason why the name connotates a negative character.  They have no father, just like the generations of boys growing up in the west today.

They are useless bastards and not worth spending time on.

Sorry if the truth hurts, your can have your own opinion but facts are facts.

The data about how bastards raised by single mothers is all around us.  Put your head in the sand and get a head full of sand if you want to but don’t complain when these lost boys are lost.  Our own weakness, ignorance and feminist inspired lack of knowledge past generations knew for granted makes men complicit.

Kids are out.  Child bearing in marriage is out so don’t get married, give up on the wet dream of having children and use a condom.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 25]

A child is great when it’s your own. The downside is that they come with a mother. Everything else is fantastic for me and I love being a dad. Mum will learn to go away and leave me alone the hard way, there are only so many times the police will warn her about her behaviour before she gets arrested and charged. So she has two choices, get out of my life and leave me alone or go to jail. Surrogacy would have been less hassle.

If you really want to do it then I would say consider surrogacy. Just be aware of possible pitfalls

[DaKayParticipant 68]

I for one don’t want any. Never ever! They are loud, they cost lots money, I hate to talk to them because they are still uneducated and unexperienced so you have to watch out what you say and they often don’t understand you, they are taking your freetime away (thats the most valuable thing imho, LIFETIME) and and and…It’s just not my thing and that will not change. Not to mention the world is overpopulated anyways lol…But I don’t judge people who want kids, I think in the end its a thing of your personal goals and your attitude.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Wanting to have children means relying on a woman to give me happiness in some way.  No thanks.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

Due to overpopulation and dwindling resources of the Earth I personally will never have any myself.

Babies/children are expensive, stressful, and ungrateful. Sure there are NABALT arguments but everyone knows most of them brought into this world were accidents!

In the legal system once you have a child in the Western world you are screwed for life. Combine that with schooling and there goes your $$,$$$ for at least 18 years. If you can afford it, go on and be a Duggan then..

I have seen co workers delay retirement because they had an oopsie baby in their 40s, struggle to make college/private school tuition or move houses to get into better school systems.

Sure, your bloodline continues. Or you say “it’s the greatest feeling on earth”,etx. With six BILLION people and millions starving not counting orphans is having a family really a “need” these days?

[Anonymous 42]

I like kids (children) at least the one’s that aren’t little assholes. Their innocent and blameless for the harm feminism has instilled in them.

Throughout my life I’ve influenced kids in a positive way, by having a positive impact on their lives, I know all about being an orbiter but that’s not my position, I’m more or less orbiting the child to instill some truths that otherwise would not be heard, some of the mental seeds I’ve planted in kids I have seen come to fruition in their adult life.

Modern women and their destructive ideology has a bad effect on the health and confidence of these young minds. Someone has to present the truth to them, otherwise they’ll only amplify the mental defects instilled in them by feminism.

I guess I feel sorry for them, that’s why I spend time, effort, and money to leave a lasting impression of what a man is….

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

I could imagine myself as a foster parent. It’s not so hard to get approval compared to adoption and doesn’t cost the insane amounts of money surrogacy does.

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