How do I get my mother and sister to respect me as a man?

[CheesypeesyParticipant 11]

Hi everyone; I was primarily raised by my mother after she divorced from my father (a clean divorce, thankfully). My household consists of me, my mother, my step dad (beta, but did introduce me to “soccer”), my older sister and my  younger step brother. I’ve had the unfortunate experience of growing up without a male role model, and so I’ve picked up some feminine traits, like giggling (trying to control this).

 

Thing is, when I resist doing stupid things ,like dancing in the kitchen with my mother and sister, they say I’m “not being myself” and give me a hard time. It’s like they’re trying to hold me back from becoming a man and/or they don’t want to lose their favourite mangina. I can go for a time but they chip away from me until I relapse.

 

So my question is this; how do I get my mother and sister to respect me as a man? I know it isn’t a huge deal but I feel they’re in the way of my path to manhood. Any advice would be much appreciated.

 

TLDR: Mother and sister don’t respect me as a man, need practical advice to change this.

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Cheesypeesy wrote:

So my question is this; how do I get my mother and sister to respect me as a man?

You can’t…but you can minimize their “feminine” influence on you, move into your own place.(assuming you are a legal adult)

 

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

You do that by moving out

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[CheesypeesyParticipant 11]

Hi XSDBS and Russky, thank for your replies; I had a feeling this would be the answer. Although I’m a legal adult I’m only 19 and I plan on saving up for a few years until I can put down a deposit for a mortgage, rather than renting out and having no assets to show for it. I’m only earning £14.5k ($21.5k) a year, so I wouldn’t have a lot of disposable income, never mind being able to save up.

 

It’s funny, even my mother and sister s~~~ test me, I’ve only begun to realise. Maybe since I’ve failed all these years they don’t see me as a man. It might be worth just limiting contact with them unless absolutely necessary? My sister is moving out soon so that’s good, and she’s the worst for s~~~ tests.

 

I know there probably isn’t a lot I can do, so I guess I needn’t worry about it.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Simply continue to do what you like and enjoy.If they show distaste ignore them.Just be aware that you may never ever get their respect.If they are too hard to ignore, move out.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

find roommates. savior the freedom

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

I must ask your age just for  perspective?   regardless of how old you are you will always be your mothers son in her eyes….I live with my mother and sister, not by my choice but out of their necessity…Both are disabled….My mother still treats me like a child at times and I am 52 years old…She is 72 and has dementia….I tell you this because you should know mothers always look at their sons as their little boy….no matter how old he is..

how do I get my mother and sister to respect me as a man?

Tell them to be yourself is to define yourself….I am growing into a self identified self defined Man and a real man defines himself without female input,expectation,or validation….They should be impressed with this..If not learn to dance and lighten up, if your still living at home respect who is providing that home..

I know it isn’t a huge deal but I feel they’re in the way of my path to manhood. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Your right its not a huge deal.  But wrong also because No one is standing in your way. You can humor them until your out on your own…No reason to express strong masculine views to the female members of your immediate family..The statement above about defining yourself should be enough to let them know That “you will be your own man”…And they may be the only females on your side later in life when you need them….

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Be happy and fulfilled by something that you do, giving 100%.  If you are sad and moody, they feel they need to give you advice.  When they want to include you in order to fix you, you just tell them that there is no time because of X (X = bodybuilding, running, sport, music, study, etc.) and be driven in whatever X is.  Be super nice to them in the small time that you give them, and really be in the moment.  They will HAVE to respect you when you say No, because you are carving your own path, not just wandering.  Later, you may find that your sister will be bragging about you to her peers, and so will your mom.  That is respect.

Also, getting some roommates and getting out on your own was mentioned here, and trust me, the TIME OF YOUR LIFE.

Have fun, man.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[CheesypeesyParticipant 11]

Thank you Harpomason, this is a great post., I’m 19 years old. I’ve discussed MGTOW concepts to them but they always say “just wait until you meet someone and you’ll be head over heels. And I’ll be there to say I told you so”. So I don’t think they’d be all that impressed. It’s not that they’re feminists or anything, but they have the common belief that a man without a woman cannot be happy and fulfilled.

You’re probably right that I need to lighten up; I think ingesting all this new information has made me a bit serious when it comes to the women in my life, when really I should have a IDGAF attitude. I guess one can go too far if they don’t take implementing the MGTOW philosophy with care.

And Viking, that’s a great suggestion regarding filling my time with things I’m passionate about; I will make it my task to find suitable projects to work on.  As cool as it would be to move out with friends, most of my friends don’t even work full time and are pretty unreliable in general, and I’m a bit wary of living with strangers.

Thank you all for your thoughts; this is why we need dedicated spaces for men!

[RoyDalParticipant]

My parents sent me to college when I was about your age. If they hadn’t, I would have joined the military. I had to get out. That said, saving up for a place you own is a good plan. I “retired young” by building up a small collection of rental properties.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

cheezzy I have the same problem in a way with giving advice to a male cousin who believes there is some one for every one..this romantic bulls~~~ is causing him much pain..I laid it all out and explained to him not to listen to womens advice..this all on facebook I know bad place for it because my own sister posted right under mine that he will eventually find the one… This is so ingrained into the female psyche that its pointless to say anything….she must have read my post  dispelling such crap… but still proved what I told him about females in the very next post….

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

You don’t.  Just ignore them.   After you acquire enough red pills it just happens naturally.   You will always talk to them, but that does not mean you have to pay attention to them.   I wouldn’t worry about it.  There is nothing you can do to gain their “respect”.  This is with all families, especially women.  No matter what you do, or the hoops you jump through, it will never be enough.

In all actuality you should focus less on seeking their respect and instead try to gain your own.

If you respect yourself, then you will not need anyone else’s respect.  Focus on that.  And just relax dude.  Seriously.  Relax….

 

[ChromestarParticipant 101]

Giggling is a trait that you pick up when living around females. You will grow out of it when you get that sense of maturity and confidence.

I going to agree with the other guys here. As long as you’re living with them you wont get that respect. Just ridicule and abuse especially in front of friends. Guilt tripping you would be their main weapon against you. So don’t even fall for s~~~ like that.

In fact a MGTOW could predict and call out that s~~~ before they even think about doing it. (Yes even towards a family member)

You have to move out and do your own thing. Sounds harsh but trust me.. it will be the best decision you’ll ever make.

‘Logic’ is ALWAYS on your side.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You can’t.

Women will ALWAYS think they know better than you …. and even if you did backflips for female “respect”, it will never happen. Even if she does respect you she will never let it be known or say it out loud, because female “respect” goes hand-in-hand with resentment. When a woman respect you, it’s a good bet she can’t stand you, and likewise, when a woman likes you (or is your “friend”), she has no respect for you at all.

Female respect (or approval) is no measure of a man.

Consider this example:

Cheesypeesy wrote:

When I resist doing stupid things ,like dancing in the kitchen with my mother and sister, they say I’m “not being myself” and give me a hard time.

You’ll hear women say that ALL THE TIME “Be yourself”. Just “be yourself”….It’s the worst advice anywhere. Do they know you better than YOU? “Be yourself” in woman speak is just like saying “do what I want you to do”. That’s not “being yourself”. That’s doing whatever she wants. So sick and tired of women telling men what to do, what to say, how to think, what to BE. What a bunch of arrogant t~~~s.

Walk up to any woman who’s not smiling and say “WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??? SMILE!!! BE YOURSELF!!”. What do you think her reaction would be? She would tell you to f~~~ off. You see how insane it is?

Don’t “be yourself”. Be the man you always wanted to be.

No woman will ever teach you that. “Being yourself” is a lazy and complacent female/feminine value. It means “relax”… don’t strive… just be… don’t BECOME… don’t improve… don’t invest…. don’t imagine…. don’t create…. . It’s LAZY, and if every man followed that piece of s~~~ advice, humanity would never have propelled forward. And that’s why women are not the ones to thank for propelling humanity forward.

Don’t give a s~~~ about female “respect”. It’s worthless.
They don’t know the meaning of the word.
Self-respect will always be worth much more to you.

One minute woman wants you to “be yourself”…… the next minute, she is telling you what’s wrong with you.
Why would you ever give a s~~~ about whether or not she respects you as a man?

Constantly telling you what to wear, what to change, what you’re doing wrong, how you don’t shave often enough, and then when you change, fix, and shave, she loses all respect for you and f~~~s someone else. So don’t give a s~~~.

I moved away from my Mother at 17 (barely 18). She had “respect” for me but she f~~~ing hated not being able to control me. That doesn’t even make any sense. The same woman who said “wait until you’re on your own and have to pay your bills”…. didn’t admire me for going out there and “paying my own bills”.

Don’t fall over yourself for female acceptance or approval.
Deep down, they f~~~ing hate you – no matter what you do.

Women respect men who treat them like s~~~…. so who f~~~ing cares about their “respect”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

“be yourself” they say.

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[experiencedParticipant]

Well, that’s kinda like getting chocolate ice cream out of a camel’s ass.  Not really possible unless you “rig” it and the results are indigestable. Better yet, like Larry Livingston’s peers saying they would earn a fur coat out of the stock market that day, it just doesn’t work that way.

Do put yourself, by your own choice, through self improvement pain that makes all other pain pale in comparison. IMO the day you just don’t care, is the day they will respect you.

 

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[Wyatt EarpParticipant 18]

Of course, moving out and getting your own place would be the ideal solution. However, if that is not possible there are certain steps you can take:

Act like a man. Do not crave validation, attention or approval from women. Do what you think is right, and never, ever be apologetic or defensive about it. Do not try and justify your actions before them.

And finally: don’t seek respect from them, act so that you can respect yourself.

[Anonymous 5]

Move out – call them say your changing your name and you can’t wait to p~~~ on there grave stone- 3 years later when they somehow get your number say you don’t know who they are. Therefore giving the biggest F-U on the planet therefore creating a new than when your brother finds you (somehow) and hes the biggest mangina dick hole ever who talked s~~~ about you while you were even in the military you crack his head open on your door step. Of course this is what I did and to each his own. MGTOW is just a guide .. Almost from God . Like really people is site run by angles? Hope this helps.

but prison isn’t fun. But all that money was worth seeing him scared. All that pain he used to put on me. *sigh I am a happy guy though.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I had the same problem. I just left the situation. They never learned to respect me, other than my mother, but who cares. Why do I value their respect? They’re too stupid to value.

[HitmanParticipant]

you should not try to get their respect.respect yourself. they can and probably will turn against you.  be warned, family will hurt you most , simply because they can.they will kick you when you are down,p~~~ on you and tell you that its raining..get out of that hellish place , find a room somewhere,see em on a couple holidays every year if they dont break your b~~~~.if they do then visit their graves.yes, for real ! no s~~~ kid,take no s~~~,go your own f~~~ing way !

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