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I’m almost done reading The Rational Male and I think the spinning plate theory he talks about makes sense, although it may be too much work to be worth it. However, I was wondering if a man can get laid without spending money on women. For example, my brother was trying to hook me up with this girl, and I’m indifferent about it. She likes me and that’s nice, but I don’t value putting my dick in a wet hole over my values.
What I mean is I would have sex with her, but frankly I don’t want to take her out because I don’t want to spend money on her. It’s not even because I’m broke or anything – I just don’t like the idea of a woman thinking she is valuable enough for me to just spend money on her right away without doing anything.
This leads to sort of a loop where there is no winning situation, or so it seems to me at this moment. If I spend money on her, she classifies me as a beta provider male and I don’t be who I want to be, but I could get laid. If I don’t spend money on her I don’t see how I can get laid. She isn’t just gonna hop in my car and let me f~~~ her without us ever even talking or anything first. I kind of just want to say to her that I’m not going to spend money to go on a date for a girl who hasn’t proven herself worth anything to me.
Why isn’t she impressing me? I’m a man with a lot going for me, who is she to assume she deserves to be taken out on my dime? She should be paying for my meal the way I see it. Anyways, I have done a ton of reading since I first posted here, and I can feel my mind being remolded into a much better perspective. Just wanna know if I can get laid without trading the values I have as an MGHOW.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
It is a numbers game. Ask girls back to your place to hang out. Sooner or later you will get a bite.
It is a numbers game. Ask girls back to your place to hang out. Sooner or later you will get a bite.
I guess I need my own place then, I’m 22 and live at home still.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
That is an interesting question. I have not thought about getting laid since being MGTOW. That is because before I was MGTOW, during my blue pill era: I had enough sex to be able to take a step back after becoming MGTOW and have the ability to not even care about it anymore. In a sense, regarding out of control sex with sociopathic sluts: I’ve been there, done that and got the t-shirt. So women now have nothing to try to bait me with. So, in a way – I’m confident ill be able to stay MGTOW, because I already covered about 98% of things sexually with women and sluts have nothing now to offer. – Now, if a woman is attractive, wants to redefine the meaning of the word orgasm with me and just f~~~, I’m always ready. However, any woman lil that would be smart enough to leverage her vaginal power towards luring in a blue pill, beta male chump rather than deal with me anyway, so I’m not holding M breath on that scenario.
One way or another you will pay. Financially, emotionally or medically.
There are NO free rides I’m afraid.
The most honest and best deal you’ll get is with a hooker.
too much work to be worth it
+1 Couldn’t have said it better myself.
For me it’s a sliding scale, the hotter they are the more effort I’m willing to put in, but at the end of the day, I bring a s~~~ load more to the table, so they really need to hop on board my carousel before it’s too late. Give them whatever impression they need to get them wet.
I had this moral problem of being two faced about my interactions with them, basically appearing like the nice guy before disappearing when the crazy or clingy starts. Now I see it as screening, I am willing to take auditions for a potential LTR partner, and it inevitably unravels as I know they are not a Unicorn.
I just don’t care anymore, by the way I noticed that I’m tending towards Asian / South American / Eastern European women more, as I find them more feminine. My take it or leave it attitude means I’m getting laid once every two or three months, but it’s as hassle free as I have ever had it.
Focus on yourself, and the rest falls into place.
I enjoyed the Rational Male and find Rollo Thomassi very helpful in gaining insight into the Feminine Primary social order, we just got to exploit the situation as best we can, it’s not too hard now that there are so many strong independent whores around.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
One way or another you will pay. Financially, emotionally or medically. There are NO free rides I’m afraid. The most honest and best deal you’ll get is with a hooker.
I second this, brilliant ILiveagain.
It is a numbers game. Ask girls back to your place to hang out. Sooner or later you will get a bite.
Yep, Snake is right to the point, wanna stop by my place, use any excuse or tell her it’s for drinks, lead her to alcohol for the slut deniability excuse.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
too much work to be worth it
+1 Couldn’t have said it better myself. For me it’s a sliding scale, the hotter they are the more effort I’m willing to put in, but at the end of the day, I bring a s~~~ load more to the table, so they really need to hop on board my carousel before it’s too late. Give them whatever impression they need to get them wet. I had this moral problem of being two faced about my interactions with them, basically appearing like the nice guy before disappearing when the crazy or clingy starts. Now I see it as screening, I am willing to take auditions for a potential LTR partner, and it inevitably unravels as I know they are not a Unicorn. I just don’t care anymore, by the way I noticed that I’m tending towards Asian / South American / Eastern European women more, as I find them more feminine. My take it or leave it attitude means I’m getting laid once every two or three months, but it’s as hassle free as I have ever had it. Focus on yourself, and the rest falls into place. I enjoyed the Rational Male and find Rollo Thomassi very helpful in gaining insight into the Feminine Primary social order, we just got to exploit the situation as best we can, it’s not too hard now that there are so many strong independent whores around.
Thanks for the feedback, I guess this is another part of becoming MGTOW. The realization that there is no consistent situation where things work out well for us when it comes to women. I was hoping there was a better answer to get consistently laid for free, but I guess I kind of knew it to be true in the back of my mind and just didn’t want to admit it.
I think the hardest part is dealing with people you know about it. I’m pretty sure my siblings or parents are guessing I might be gay at this point because I never bring home girls and have never had a girlfriend. I’m not, obviously, but I just never had that out of control “must get a girlfriend” mentality. I always thought other things were much more interesting since I’m an introvert who thinks deeply a lot.
It’s hard though because even when family asks about it, you can’t even explain it to them in a way that makes sense because they just don’t understand. It’s not even possible in their minds for me to just not care that much.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
Snake is right. Sooner or later you will get a bite.
However, the one’s that usually bite are the ones that are hungry. Hungry sluts have motives that include way more than just your dick.
Be warned
Good question, unfortunately I have no clue…In my opinion it’s a f~~~ing chore trying to get laid, If I have to pull a Shang Tsung and be somebody I’m not just to get a piece of pussy it ain’t even worth it, you literally have to “test your might” with these hoes. Honestly, I’ve been changing my whole narrative from “how can I get laid” to “does she deserve my TIME let alone my dick?” but hey, I’m a virgin so what the hell do I know about getting laid….I’m pretty sure I’m going to lose my virginity to a hooker/prostitue and I’m completely OK with that.
You say you don’t value putting you dick in pussy over your own values? Good, you shouldn’t..none of us should, don’t be Shang Tsung.
Good question, unfortunately I have no clue…In my opinion it’s a f~~~ing chore trying to get laid, If I have to pull a Shang Tsung and be somebody I’m not just to get a piece of pussy it ain’t even worth it, you literally have to “test your might” with these hoes. Honestly, I’ve been changing my whole narrative from “how can I get laid” to “does she deserve my TIME let alone my dick?” but hey, I’m a virgin so what the hell do I know about getting laid….I’m pretty sure I’m going to lose my virginity to a hooker/prostitue and I’m completely OK with that. You say you don’t value putting you dick in pussy over your own values? Good, you shouldn’t..none of us should, don’t be Shang Tsung.
How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? The “how can I get laid” and “does she deserve my TIME let alone my dick?” is exactly what I was questioning. You went from one to the other, and I was trying to figure out if they can kind of coexist. Coming from a place of “does she deserve me” in the attempt of getting laid. It’s kind of like a reframing of the normal “Does she like me?” bulls~~~.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
Snake is right. Sooner or later you will get a bite. However, the one’s that usually bite are the ones that are hungry. Hungry sluts have motives that include way more than just your dick. Be warned
That is definitely something I have learned to keep in mind thanks to this website. Thanks for the tips
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
Wear fine clothing then wait outside of a strip club when it closing time.
I believe the sure way to secure the lay is to follow the mating ritual like all other animals do.
With dates, “bases” and what not.
Women are sluts but don’t want to appear as one. If you follow the ritual by the book – in their mind they are not sluts if everything goes as expected with the socially-accepted dating ritual, so they should put out on the 3rd date. If they don’t – kick to the curb ensues.I don’t do it myself because I am lazy and bitter, and hate talking to them, so I am not in any position to give any advice.
But it should work.proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
@batcave hey man, you’re right I don’t really want to go chasing it, just take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. Also, I’ve learned a lot of html/css and am gonna start learning ASP.net and SQL thanks to you.
I believe the sure way to secure the lay is to follow the mating ritual like all other animals do. With dates, “bases” and what not. Women are sluts but don’t want to appear as one. If you follow the ritual by the book – in their mind they are not sluts if everything goes as expected with the socially-accepted dating ritual, so they should put out on the 3rd date. If they don’t – kick to the curb ensues. I don’t do it myself because I am lazy and bitter, and hate talking to them, so I am not in any position to give any advice. But it should work.
I don’t blame you. I don’t think I’ll ever get laid if that’s what it takes. I don’t even have the desire to put that much effort in.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
I just stopped caring pretty much, when I say “does she deserve my time let alone my dick?” I’m saying she better prove HERSELF to me, not the other way around…they should be chasing US, trying to get laid by US, buying US drinks but the things is, can’t no money be made by the powers that be if s~~~ was that way. Trying to get laid these days is pretty much like trying to get a bank loan to buy a used car.
Get out of your parents house. As long as you are there you are still under a woman’s thumb.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I used to know a guy who lived in a happy hunting ground for free rides. This was a large condo complex with a big pool. His job allowed him to spend lots of time poolside in the middle of the day. It was full of young wives whose husbands were off working and who wanted a bit of fun with no complications.
— He used to live there. He had to change addresses because the inevitable happened: One of them ratted him out to her angry violent brute of a husband. It was time to go anyhow. He got a promotion that required him to relocate.
On the plus side, he never caught anything incurable.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Get out of your parents house. As long as you are there you are still under a woman’s thumb.
I’m going to disagree. Why leave the parents just to get laid. He can pay some the bills, do maintenance work and s~~~. When they grow old he can take care of them and he earns the house so when their parents die he can take over the house. I see nothing wrong with the parents it’s cheaper and saving money is important these days due the economy. Or at least stay until he has a good nest egg.
Want to get laid get self confidence. How do you do that? I don’t suggest PUA. Do weight lifting, lose weight if you’re over weight and you will have self confidence. Let me make it clear your motive for weight lifting should be so that you can get laid. The reason you should do is to improve your health and self confidence. Women will naturally be attracted to you and even come to talk to you then you can ask them if they want to go coffee.
If you don’t want to buy her coffee make sure to get there early at least 1/2 hour early. Mingle with her and if you like her enough. Don’t ask her out her out however tell her you’re going to dinner on a certain day and time if she would like to come along she is welcome. You are not asking her to come to dinner however it’s indirectly inviting her. If she doesn’t want to go then she is declining the dinner invitation. Since you are not directly inviting her to dinner there is no reason that you have to pay for her dinner. I suggest somewhere that’s cheap if a woman likes you she won’t care if you go to Mc Donalds. If she decides to then after eating you can make moves on her to get sex. It’s highly unlikely you will get sex on the get go.
Don’t forget to wear condoms. If possible I would arrange a FWB if possible where neither of you sleep with other people. The reason for this is to prevent or limit risk of STD.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
Just wanna know if I can get laid without trading the values I have as an MGHOW.
As a “dating” MGTOW, I *NEVER* go out for expensive restaurant meal style dates. I stick to really simple plans like a cup of tea and chat, etc.
I don’t want to watch somebody eating food with bits flapping about of their mouth – it’s not sexy. Cinemas are rubbish because you sit in the dark trying to watch a film.
If you go or a cup of tea / coffee etc, then its a REALLY cheap date and even I don’t begrudge paying a pound for that. Also, if you don’t like the girl you can leave after half an hour. I use it as a nice qualifier also – if she thinks that’s “not enough” for a first date, then clearly she isn’t right for me and to up her own arse and wants a free meal.
If there is a decent spark, however, then even a cup of tea and turn into a walk and chat, then back to mine / hers to watch that awesome film we both liked and then the rest is history. Later dates can then involve dinner but ones that *I* cook. Not only is it massively cheaper then dining out, but I can choose exactly what I want and my own portion control (I am a big eater!) and cooking your own food is MUCH sexier then any idiot who can sit in a restaurant ordering food.
So basically, cheap dates like tea/coffee to qualify and keep simple. Then IF you have a semi casual thing, then cooking your OWN food is my recommended next step. This comes with a warning however. Being an awesome cook and generally being awesome sometimes means women become obsessed with you and try and keep you. This means then you can do ANY crap date idea for almost nothing as they are into you.
Marriage? No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.
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