Hopeless

[AntonioParticipant 142]

Hello brothers, thats how i feel now. Currently no job, homeless (2 months living in my car) no money (i mean cents), i have a car and some sporting stuff inside but thats it. I have been trying to go MGTOW for years. But i dont know if i get it because of the situation i am in.
I had a controlling gf, a controlling mum and i think a controlled father (he is on psych medications that his female psychiatrist give him) and another wife. They all keep calling me, my mother even tries me to go and come back home,for 10th time at least, but i resist. I played stock market futures, which i dont know if its an addiction or its the way i need to go out of actual poverty. My family story is big so i wont go into details and will try to go concise.
Last week i put one of my last efforts on becoming profitable with the market, i was at my car, with my phone, turned 50€ into 2000 in two days. Then the s~~~ happened again, first it was my mother call, i as a fool argued with her, (she, and all my family, wants me in psych ward) and i dont want, dont trust these manginas psychiatrists, in two days of arguing with my mother, my account was blowed again. I started to make silly trades and emotional ones one after the other, like, where is my yesterday’s me? Seriously is like they feel i am getting to my own financial stability, then all family start to call together, start to attack my integrity (all think i am the crazy one in the family, all think there is no problem with themselves) and i am a target. Feel like a scapegoat for sure. Its crazy because at the same time they say i am the most brilliant.
I was the first in my family to be financially independent at 16 doing things that i cant detail here now, because, well…you know. Then my mother used my step father to attack that, and i lost that fount of money. I feel as if a war against me has been ongoing since i “tried” to leave my family. But i have doubts because all the brainwashing they are doing in me. Am i crazy, am i a narcissist myself, its so hard.

What are my options on this point?
1. come back home where i am controlled by my mum(she got family home as allimony and lives there with another man, a mangina who doesnt get it, i guess) she still tries to get me to live there or in another apartment she has, but idont want. Feels like a trap. In fact all my relationships with women feel like a trap nowadays. If i find a job, there is always a controlling bitch there in a position of power, they know i know the truth and go against me in a crusade. I was fired from two jobs this month for arguing with women. Of course, all things i said pointed to a lack of proffesionalism by them.
2.try to go to my fathers place again, where i usually get out from hopeless and totally crazy.
3.wait till friday trying to eat inside supermarkets or trying to sell stuff…until friday, i have a job appointment.
4? 5? any more options sorry this dont describe a f~~~ing 0.01% of what i am dealing with….and thanks

pd: funny that some years ago i had money, i wanted to buy a home am my mother opposed to it terribly, while she is buying like 4/5 actually. Please give me a pill, all this is how they control me, right?

[Branched offParticipant 10934]

I am sorry to hear that you are in a bad way Antonio.

I think there are two different things to tackle here. Firstly you need somewhere to eat and sleep, secondly you need to become independent of your family. I think you need to tackle them in that order. I cannot comment on whether or not you have psychiatric issues or an addiction to the futures market. I do not have enough evidence. Being in a bad situation strains the nerves whether or not one has a psychiatric issue.

Firstly, you need somewhere proper to sleep, so go to wherever you can get that with minimal hassle. If you have a family who want to look out for you, it may be good to go to one of them (whichever will be kind and not too judgemental). If you get a talking to just take it, what matters is that you get yourself back on your feet and you may need to put a few things on hold to do that.

Secondly you need to plan your way back to being solvent and independent financially. You will have to be quite self judgemental to do this. This may involve small steps or a job you do not really like at first but the end goal has to be to never be short and then save enough money spare to be able to get your own house. I would suggest that if trading in futures come into your plans, you only buy contracts with a portion of your savings (from which you always reserve enough to cover any losses), leaving at least an equal portion entirely safe. If you cannot keep to this, you probably do have an addiction that does need dealing with.

Men are tough and resolute but they also need to know when to get help. No one can go his own way until he has the resources -whether physical or financial to support himself and this must always be part of a man’s long game. The world has little mercy for a man who cannot do this.

A man should always seek to have the upper hand in any situation. By this I mean more than he should not be losing a fight, he should never be in a situation where his hand is open begging for another to put something in it. A woman will get away with begging for help. A man will really only get away from this with his parents and brothers, or once or twice in a life time from his old mates. Beyond this he is seen as a problem to society. Don’t be that guy. Swallow your pride short term if and seek help to get back on your feet but never risk putting yourself in that position again. When your parents are aged or dead, who will you have left to turn to?

Good luck. You sound like a bright and energetic guy who will be OK if he gets his priorities right.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

Yet, you keep on answering their phone calls? Why?! Stop inviting drama into your life.

Are you dead? Amputated? Retarded? If no, hope is still in the picture. You have a car, that’s a plus, and you have a place to return to. 99% of homeless don’t have a place to return to.

Do what’s best for you, and don’t let “family” members get the best of you. Why do you even talk to these people?

Money is God.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

You mean the place were those people that should not be talked are?

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Brother. I lived in my car for a YEAR. I was FORCED to come back to my home in Oregon while doing so well on my own.

From what I hear, you have been ROYALLY f~~~ed over. So being around them or contact with them is f~~~ing you up. And you have made some mistakes. DO NOT WORRY. You have not killed anyone so you are ahead of the game.

So here is the thing. FIND A JOB that GETS YOU AWAY from all this and PROVIDES ROOM AND BOARD. THat means on a ship, cruise liner etc.

You also need to CUT all those s~~~y ties with these people. They do NOT want you to be successful. THEY NEED YOU. YOU DO NOT NEED THEM.

I also want you to try to see if you can get some ADDERALL. I can tell you have problems focusing on what needs to be done.

Now FIND out HOW you are going to get that next job that gets you away from them. FAR AWAY. And get to a place where you can just be BY YOURSELF. SAFLEY.

If that means a shelter for men, then do it.

YOU are being torn down by the people around you. And you are not going to get better around them.

You are in trouble my brother. You need to find your MOJO and kick the other people out of your life.

I know you are NOT going to want to hear this, but much of this is your fault. You let them do this to you.

YOU need to RUN AWAY from this s~~~. And FORGET ABOUT THEM.

These people are ONLY going to DRAG YOU DOWN.

Now start Hitting the GYMS, start working out your body, and find ways to WORK for GOOD FOOD. Wash peoples cars for GAS MONEY.

Be OPEN to do anything for MONEY. If you are living in your car, KEEP IT ON THE DOWN LOW.

If you are on the computer, WORK. SELL THINGS DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET YOUR OWN PLACE.

But right now, you are better off working at some job that takes care of your FOOD and SHELTER.

If you can get in the MILITARY do it. You need to be around MEN. REAL MEN.

Once you find your way, or do a job you LIKE to do, stay at it. But keep in mind all of it can go away at a second.

and most IMPORTANTLY STAY THE F~~~ AWAY FROM WOMEN.

They brought you here my brother. DO NOT LET THEM TAKE YOUR SOUL.

They LOVE it that you are f~~~ed up. It gives them POWER OVER YOU.

Now go make some money for some gas, and KEEP working on getting your own ass out of that situation.

Would I go back to having a place? ONLY if you use that place to SLEEP. NOTHING ELSE>

DO NOT TALK. DO NOT EAT WITH THEM. Try NOT TO TALK TO THEM.

You are their to WORK and get your ass on your feet.

If you are being Garnished etc. FInd jobs that are out of their reach. Do things under the table as much as possible. You can work 18 hours a day, and be fine. DO THIS and you can have your life turned around in 3 months time.

KEEP COMMING HERE TO TALK TO US abotu WHAT you are going through. WE WILL NOT JUDGE YOU. WE WILL LISTEN.

But only YOU can change your life brother. YOU are what is at stake here.

NOW.. FIND out how to turn your asset, that would be your car in to money.

When you get it. REMEMBER. IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN 5000 in the bank, YOU ARE VULNERABLE.

Do not stop until you have over 100,000 at your DISPOSAL. And half of that needs to be in a place that they can not GARNISH away from you.

You need to PROTECT your MONEY. That is what they want to steal from you.

Find a way to protect what is yours. And remember. The ONLY thing you can Halfway own is yourself. Everything else you own in the E.U. IS A LIABILITY.

And remember, Do NOT burn any bridges. The ilusion to this life it to gain respect. GET IT. If they are complaining, that means you are doing it right.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

Antonio wrote:

You mean the place were those people that should not be talked are?

If you don’t intend on returning to that place, why answer their phone calls?

If they give you drama on the phone, while you sleep in your car, might as well take the drama while sleeping on a f~~~ing bed.

Money is God.

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

I agree with these guys brother. Now is the time to take charge of your life. I had to separate myself from my feminized family too. Completely. They came after me too. I too was homeless once. Never stop making money. Never give in to anyone that tries to control you. Focus on yourself. Love yourself. Besides us, no one truly will love you. And above all… stay away from women!! Society has lied to us about them. They are evil to one degree or another. You are accepted here. We all have walked a mile or two in your moccasins. Cheers.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

Already trying to sell it for 550€

[BernieParticipant 254]

A lot of good advice here Antonio. You need to cut out the emotional garbage during the day when trading. Turn off your phone and answer calls after the market closes. Keep a journal of why you made the trade and your exit points. Because once your emotions are triggered all that logic of the trade get’s over ride. You got to keep your head in the game futures trading. You sound like you got a good handle on it. You should be able to provide basic needs monthly with the income made along with a job. If you can’t cut out the emotional garbage don’t trade . Also your assumption are probably right about your mom. She has a live in and possibly looking for a replacement income.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Antonio wrote:

4? 5? any more options sorry this dont describe a f~~~ing 0.01% of what i am dealing with….and thanks

Unless you genuinely have mental health issues I say join the military. At least you’ll be fed and have roof over your head. Basic training will also get you far away from those causing you grief…

[Anonymous 12]

4) dump these fools if you can.
switch numbers, and keep putting your mind to the task at hand.
the 2k amassed were not much, but an indication of someone who knows how to… “how to play the game”.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

My grandfather used to say. Go downtown look for a guy sleeping on park bench with holes in his shoes, and his trousers so thin his ass his hanging out, follow him around and he’ll lead you right to a stock broker. I invest a lot of money in the market but it’s all long term. I’ve never attempted to make short term profits. In the last 18 months my net worth has increased over 100,000 dollars, and there it sits. Get off your ass, get yourself a job, if you have to move back in with your mother for awhile, then do it. Put your savings in the bank and stay away from the market. Nobody gets rich quick.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

Swimcat wrote:

My grandfather used to say. Go downtown look for a guy sleeping on park bench with holes in his shoes, and his trousers so thin his ass his hanging out, follow him around and he’ll lead you right to a stock broker. I invest a lot of money in the market but it’s all long term. I’ve never attempted to make short term profits. In the last 18 months my net worth has increased over 100,000 dollars, and there it sits. Get off your ass, get yourself a job, if you have to move back in with your mother for awhile, then do it. Put your savings in the bank and stay away from the market. Nobody gets rich quick.

Yes, super difficul short term, i wish i had just invest my money when everybody said that the world was falling appart on amzn, appl, nvda, and bitcoins….but i got advice from the net, and invested in silver!!!!! fool!!!!…and again i was around those people when i took those decissions. I know short term trading is a way to lose all and i am proof of that. Also there is a way to get yourself rich quickly.
PD: when i told to my grandfather thar i bought silver at 30 dollars an once he said: well done. And it was one of my biggest mistakes. Lost half my money. He is dead now, one of his last wishes was to try to hit my c~~~ grandma,all my family was ready to say, “he has lost his head” well, NO!!! he saw the truth, but it was so f~~~ing late, he was alcoholic and in the death bed. My family is guilty from that, and they know i know it. Sometimes i wish to be Like the steak man on matrix film.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

Also, its not quick, starting trading in 2008, so its 10 years of mistakes. And learns. There are short term profitable traders. They exist. Yes you can blow your account away “short term” so easily, especially when trading with 1:400 margin futures cfds with big spreads.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

Bernie wrote:

A lot of good advice here Antonio. You need to cut out the emotional garbage during the day when trading. Turn off your phone and answer calls after the market closes. Keep a journal of why you made the trade and your exit points. Because once your emotions are triggered all that logic of the trade get’s over ride. You got to keep your head in the game futures trading. You sound like you got a good handle on it. You should be able to provide basic needs monthly with the income made along with a job. If you can’t cut out the emotional garbage don’t trade . Also your assumption are probably right about your mom. She has a live in and possibly looking for a replacement income.

She has her own bussiness, she earns money, she does not need my money, she needs me, my brother is all in with her. She thinks she does it for herself but its my brother who does the important things. She wants me there, working for her. Like another asset she has. She is the most deluded person in this world. So narcissistic. She never give any affection and when she does, it feels totally fake. As when she victim cryes. My problems in life is why she is that way, i am guilty for it. A scapegoat for the complete family.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

Antonio, I buy a 10oz spot silver bar once a month from this company. https://www.jmbullion.com/# I’ve got a safety deposit box at the bank full of them. I never pay over $ 18.00. If it gets that high I hold off till it comes back down. I do it for one reason, in case the market ever really goes bear like it did in 2008, I can sell them and ride the bear market out. It’s only a small part of my portfolio. That’s not my point. Everyone needs a working income. AKA a job. Try and do it by short term trading in the market you end up sleeping in your car. Sorry, no sympathy from me. I supported a wife and three children for years. Put two of them through graduate school and still managed to save for retirement. Young men married or not, need to be working.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Swimcat wrote:

I’ve got a safety deposit box at the bank

Just for the record they are safe deposit boxes. There is nothing safety about them.

[MonkParticipant 16995]

Good advice so far, take it.

To summarise:

(1) These people are f~~~ing you up. Get rid of them.
(2) Take a job. Anything that gets you somewhere to eat and sleep.

You need stability. If you carry on like this, either the police will pick you up or your family will have you committed.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

I see your point. I have a friend who supports his wife and daughter with this (thats how i got into it) maybe he did not tell all the truth. so possible is, probable, not. Your right the most probable scenario is to loose. The money i played there was earned working though.

What i really fail to see in trading, is anything of good use for society (other than supporting the broker’s wife and monetary system). Even if i’d win i dont think i would feel fullfilled. i think i have other qualities and things to contribute to society that are much more important than a life behind a screen.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

There is some very good advice here, Antonio. I think you should seriously consider it. Make the LOGICAL choice for you. If you have to move in with your mom to have a bed, do it. You can put her off for awhile but she will catch on and most likely kick you out. I would choose that apartment. That way she has to come to you physically for any face-to-face encounters. When you are done for the day shut that phone off. Try your best to ignore the females at any place of employment you may get. I don’t know what skills you have but put up with a lot of bulls~~~ in any job you can get until you find the one you want. Good luck

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