Hook it up with some proven advice!!

[HappyParticipant 55]

Recently discovered MGTOW– although always been one. I was blessed with good looks and a sharp intellect, but have always had trouble with casual sex. Every lay I’ve ever had has been the result of a relationship, because I used to assume wife = happiness. I have a strong moral compass and am not one to lie or lead/toy with a womans’ emotions in order to get laid, which seems sleazy to me; not something a self respecting man would do (maybe Im wrong?). So what’s the best approach? Just outright tell any girl I meet that marriage and kids are not anywhere in the forecast, if at all? Ask if she wants to f~~~ and deal with her response? Become a “player” or f~~~boy as they’re so affectionally known now days? Live an interesting and fulfilling life and wait for them to come to me? Hire escorts; which brings up the STD concern? Go monk– which would be tough because a woman’s body is a beautiful thing, plus I’m young and enjoy sex. Lend some tried and true advice. Thanks.

[LeavesParticipant 55]

This is a so much asked question when i think about that. I think there is no right approach beside being yourself. Not in the emotional meaning, but lay off the social construct.
Just ignore what was said when we where young boys on how to treat women.
If a women is interessted in you, she will come to you, the easiest way to do so – is ignoring them. It just takes 1 female who WANTS to be with you – even if it’s just a small talk and you dump down on her as it very often happends to men, all women who see that get a feeling out of this.
If you look confident and unreachable they aproach you, no need to spread lies or tell her want she want’s to here.

Just one thing on that, i tried – i also SAID IN HER FACE “this is just fun, nothing serious it’s just sex” – she agreed, we had sex and the exact day after i get bombed on facebook or somehow she got my number from anyone and texts me about feelings that may have come up.

I really NEVER had sex with a women (beside a relationship) where she does not came the day after if we first made clear it’s nothing serious. No women ever had take it as fun, i experimented around and i was even able to do this to 1 women 3 times in 12 months.

Everytime she hated me, sweared at me and whatnot even tried to hit me once, but she slept with me again imediatly after i met her, funny thing in the beginnig she doesn’t even like me.

So i can not help it, if you are good looking it’s way easier for you anyway. Dress so you are confortable, look good don’t look like you are looking for sex/women, they notice that as men also do and just be around. Do not try that at Bars or Clubs at night, Women go there just to feel like gods because of men sourounding them just to get dumped by those women.
It also depends on your Age for sure, my father told me back in the days (he is 75years old now) that it’s not important what you tell a women or how you behave or you make up on her, the important thing is being confident all the time, and all women will come to you.
I never understood that correctly until i took the red pill – confidence is everything when it comes down to that.
I’m a physical very normal guy, nothing really decent and i’m 1.67Meters wich is pretty small, but i don’t care and i’m confident and that makes me interesting among women, even if i dump them down because i have no time or interest in them.

[Anonymous 43]

I prefer to stay the f~~~ away from women. No drama, no baby rabies, no bulls~~~.

I wear a black ring on my right hand. This tells anyone who understands the code that I am unapproachable and not bloody likely to approach you.

Women are part of the scenery to me, furniture, landscaping, decorative elements.

This is what feels right to me. I eliminated all the bulls~~~ and concentrated on school and career. I come home to a neat quiet house. I do not have any thing floral, trendy or expensive. I do not allow women into my life. What you do is your business.

I will issue you a challenge. Wear a rubberband around your wrist. Every time you think about wanting to do anything with a woman, snap your self. Do this for one week. Then for the following week, go people watching at a mall or an airport…somewhere you will see women and men acting naturally. keep a journal tucked inside a suduko book. People will ignore you, as you are working a complicated logic puzzle book.

Observe for 1 week. What do you see? Use the objective, cold empirical logical side your creator endowed you with.

You will see 4 types of people. Women shopping with other people’s money, happy next you will see men shopping on their own, quick strides, purposeful large anchor stores, maybe game store. Third type, men being dragged by women and pushing a stroller or kids orbiting closely. The men are miserable, walking slowly, aimlessly, wishing they were getting do it yourself ass hair removal the women look stressed with the kids and annoyed at lackadaisical men moping along, the last set of people are several women moving in a pack, flitting together across the mall like bees looking for flowers sure they might be cute, but so shallow.

Because you are outside looking in, which group of people would you like to be part of? Look at your red wrist before you answer that question.

Well, you will figure out what is best for you.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I’ve been monk for 25 years so I can’t really help you except to say that in any dealing with a woman of any kind just remember to Aesop fable of the turtle and the scorpion.

A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on his back across a river. “Are you Scorpion mad?” exclaimed the turtle. “You’ll sting me while I’m swimming and I’ll drown.”

“My dear turtle,” laughed the scorpion, “if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you. Now where is the logic in that?”

“You’re right!” cried the turtle. “Hop on!” The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly said:

“Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there’d be no logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?”

“It has nothing to do with logic,” the drowning scorpion sadly replied. “It’s just my character.”

[Anonymous 42]

I got away from the slaughter house in my prime, had it, enough was enough! Never going back.

Hey Pistol Pete, you got me beat by 5 years!

I have a feeling allot fuses will be popping the same way ours did.

“POP”,,, All DONE. THE END.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Females are not worth it.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I understand where they young guys are coming from—they got the “drive” going. But it sounds like you and I learned very early: nothing is free and before you buy it you’d better know the price. Except for the Asian babe I banged in college never much cared for it…to much of a hassel for too little return.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Happy wrote:

Hire escorts; which brings up the STD concern?

In my experience,escorts (the higher end ones) are much safer and knowledgeable when it comes to STD’s (because of their profession) than your average ignorant horny club slut.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Anonymous 42]

Take all the women I’ve been with, put them together in one room, extract all the best qualities from each of them and creating just 1, still have to walk away hands down. My life would have totally sucked living on that broken record!

Everything turned to music in my ears the very second I decided to walk away forever, Now my life is a symphony!

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Almost every man here has a strong moral compass and woman know that most men have a moral compass and use it as a weapon against them. That is why shaming tactics work against blue pill men and lying is easy for them because men and society in general put women on a pedestal thinking they are special snowflakes that would never lie.

If you are determined to go down this road you have to build a fortress around you where nothing they can say or do will hurt you or make you break. You have to become the uncaring asshole that is only in it for the sex no emotional attachment whatsoever. As soon as your foundation has cracks in it that is it you are done she will take a sledge hammer and break you down until you are on your knees. This is why we are telling you if you plan on playing with fire be ready to get burned.

Stealthy likes to talk about oil change dating. Screw them 3 times and leave for the next person no attachment, no cohabitation, and never bring her to your house or give out your personal number. Have two phones one for personal use and one for hook ups that way after you are done with her go ghost and never see her again and you can always get another burner phone. That is the only way you can protect yourself and mitigate any damage that will eventually come your way.

As for toying with their emotions why do you care if you already said marriage and kids are off the table. Oh you didn’t mention relationships. So you want to have an emotional attachment with a woman while having sex with her still? That will not work forget about it. The only way this works is if you become an asshole which they love by the way as they want the bad boy in you not the caring about emotions beta. You want to still have sex become aloof, confident and uncaring.

As Keymaster would say put them in the friend zone right away when they approach you and they will go nuts and try to make you have sex with them it works. With all that written my advice would be just don’t play in a mind field because eventually one of those snowflakes will blow up and you will get hurt in some way. A lot of guys are successful at playing the field but over time it wears you down and it is not worth it but go your own way and find out for yourself what awaits good luck brother.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Females are not worth it.

Yup. You’ll probably just have sex with a few, maybe have a pregnancy or STD scare, then be like meh a few minutes of pumping a hole wasn’t worth that, time to go monk. Women make it easy to get over sex.

[Catch And ReleaseParticipant 133]

Happy, we share similar philiosophies on this. I’m not a bulls~~~ter, and leading somebody on is not something I would ever consider. But at the same time, I had little desire to ride the town bicycle, so to speak. I certainly encountered a few at bars and whatnot, but “dirties” simply do not appeal to me.

So here’s the conundrum: how do you know, even with clearly conveying your desires and expectations, that a woman will fully comprehend what you tell her? And more importantly, will she respect it?

In my experience, you simply can’t. I had one chase me for a while. Ran me through the gauntlet of questions, and I answered them honestly. No desire for marriage, heck I had zero interest in relationships. Kids? Hell no! Never! I’m happy living my single life. I have no issue with female contact, but I wouldn’t give up what I have or change my life plan for it.

I don’t think I could have been more clear, so when we ended up in bed (initiated by her) I thought the situation was great. She knew what I wanted from life and still wanted a romp in the sack. That feeling was short lived, as the next day I got the “I don’t sleep with ‘just friends’, so now what?” text.

Is there a woman out there who thinks like us and would like casual, no strings attached sex? Probably, but good luck finding her. You’d likely have to go through the same situation I did a couple hundred times to find that one.

On the other hand, I know my fleshlight won’t entrap me, play mind games or pass along STDs.

[HappyParticipant 55]

This knowledge is invaluable. Thank you.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Catch And Release wrote:

how do you know, even with clearly conveying your desires and expectations, that a woman will fully comprehend what you tell her? And more importantly, will she respect it?

Who cares? So long as you tell her the plain truth, openly and honestly, her inability to comprehend it is her own problem.

Chances are she’s not even listening to you anyways. She’s just taking whatever tone of voice you use and applying it to whatever script she’s already planned out in her own head.

I’ve told women: “Real talk. You don’t want me. I’m just going to f~~~ you stupid and then dump your ass in the morning,” and all it does is make them more insistent on going home with me. And when I get the inevitable whine the next morning as I’m walking out their door, and I remind them of my earlier warning, they all say the same thing: “You didn’t mean that.”

Like they have any clue what I meant when they straight up ignore what I said.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Sounds like “friends with benefits” doesn’t actually exist in a woman’s mind.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Sounds like “friends with benefits” doesn’t actually exist in a woman’s mind.

Never mind friends with benefits, female comprehension is weak on the concept of friendship in general. They really don’t understand what friendship is. Just look at how they operate amongst themselves. Even their “best friends forever” are seen as potential rivals.

Only a woman would come up with the concept of a “frenemy”.

But that is their problem, not ours.

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Tell us more about this Black Ring on the right hand thing….which finger, what kind of ring, it is widely recognized?

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