History of MGTOW

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Anyone know any theories on the recent origin of mgtow?

From what I can find on Wikipedia:

The MGTOW community’s history is murky, but it was most likely birthed in the mid to early 2000’s by two menwho go by the online aliases of Solaris and Ragnar. A little over a decade ago a MGTOW manifesto was drafted.

This was stolen from a really s~~~ty article about mgtow.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/7bdwyx/inside-the-global-collective-of-straight-male-separatists

From 2015.

They refer to a youtube video from 2012 that talks about the origins of mgtow and names Solaris and Ragnar as founders of mgtow.

In their own voices Solaris and Ragnar first encountered the men’s movement in early 2000, like 2003. I started posting in the manosphere, mainly fathers rights, in 1997. I remember when there was no mgtow. There was a lot of talk about alpha and beta males. Then people started talking about how non-confrontational the MRA’s were and started a more radical movement, mgtow.

When asked about the founding of mgtow they didn’t say they started it. They said there were others involved at the time they were identified as early mgtow.

There is someone that came up with the acronym mgtow.

Anyone know any more history?

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I say it started with Adam after he encountered Eve.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

I say it started with Adam after he encountered Eve.

We all agree that awalt and, certainly eve was a typical woman.

There is a modern movement that came up with the acronym mgtow after thinking about how useless trying to work within the system, like MRA’s, and it was best to leave the system completely.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[AutoliteParticipant]

MGTOWs have always been a part of society. It’s only relatively recently that the attitude has been given a name…

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I found an interesting article about the subject of the history of mgtow.

http://mgtow.wikia.com/wiki/MGTOW

Ragnar describes the historical establishment of “men going their own way” as taking place in Hickory, North Carolina, in October 2004, in a meeting between Ragnar and Meikyo; Zed was also invited, but was unable to attend due to illness.[20] They concluded that an individual, grae early 2000s in several online men’s rights groups. Three of those who conceived the MGTOW community went by the names Zed the Zenpriest, Ragnar Jensen, and Meikyo. Zed noted that many types of men’s rights movements, to his dismay, would splinter and fracture, because the men in those movements displayed an incredible amount of stubbornness, in-fighting, and stifling political correctness. Zed coined the tessroots strategy, which Zed had previously dubbed “men going their own way”, was superior to the men’s rights movement and working for men’s rights organisations. In an interview, Ragnar describes the moment as follows.

Yes, now I remember. Zed was said to be the Guru of mgtow which, like it or not, grew as a result of splintering of the MRA’s. He used to release articles that led to mgtow. I used to post with Zed the Zenpriest around the time mgtow was formed. At the time it was an oddity. Related but more extreme than the mra’s. The mra’s insisted on combining with women that lead to an online hostile environment for men in the mra’s. I still follow mra reddit and they have to bend over backwards to not appear anti-woman. Women police the site.

In the early 2000’s I used to post with Typhon blue, a mod on mra reddit and member of the HoneyBadgers. We posted on a site called “Stand Your Ground”. http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=568 One of the main rules was that you were not allowed to generalize about women. No awalt. I took logic in college and I learned that in philosophy you must generalize. You can’t talk about individuals because they may not fall within the generalization.

Then I found this great Sandman video from 2017 on the history of mgtow and he mentions Zed as being one of the first founders that came up with the acronym “MGTOW”.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bladeParticipant]

Wasn’t there an article that mentioned mgtow in a news paper clip in the late 1800’s . Or some s~~~ .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Here is the collective Book of Zed the Zen Priest. It’s long and deep but here it is.

https://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/book_of_zed_the_zen_priest.pdf

Zen Buddism,

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bladeParticipant]

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THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[NoLongerBlindParticipant 530]

Yep….it started with ADAM and EVE. All entitlements and naivety on her side…all blue pill on his…and out of paradise they BOTH go! Nuff said!

[TwistParticipant]

At least back to Tesla

“WHEN a man who has made a name for himself deliberately chooses to remain a bachelor the world is naturally curious to know what the reasons were that impelled him to this choice.”

[Gravel PitParticipant]

/forums/topic/origins-of-modern-mgtow-ragnar-mr-e-barbar/

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[Gravel PitParticipant]

Great topic.

The Stardusk/BarBar era started circa 2012. Stardusk leans more Monkish. Barbar never stopped having sex.

Prior to that. MGTOWs werent really a thing, and if anything, were Tradcons. “Putting masculinity and feminity back into the sexes”

The acronym itself (Men Going Their Own Way) was born of in-fighting in forums just like these, arguing about opinions like whether to just avoid women outright, or to try and make it work, to go MRA style, or to just say Eff them all and go monk…. there was so much animosity that the expression, “he needs to just go his own way” (sort of like agreeing to disagree)… was born. And they’d say, those men, they’re the men going their own way….

And there you have it. As Keymaster and others pointed out. The phrase, Men Going Their Own Way…has actually been found in a newspaper article like 100 years ago or something….

good thread, thanks

[Gravel PitParticipant]

/forums/topic/what-is-mgtow-answers-philosophy-and-the-why-basic-stardusk-barbarossa/

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[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

So Gavel Pit, you were involved with the in the foundation of modern mgtow? That’s cool. I’d love to learn more about it.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 12]

Autolite wrote:

MGTOWs have always been a part of society. It’s only relatively recently that the attitude has been given a name…

I agree, the most productive men in history have mostly been single or only married to progress their careers, especially in politics.

I was MGTOW from a kid. I never fit nor did I care. MGTOW can mean various things as well.

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