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Hi,
Just introducing myself here.
I am native from Brazil, currently living in Toronto. I’m Over 30, Atheist, programmer. My parents were separated when I was an infant. I barely knew my father. I don’t have good or bad things to say about him. Just don’t know the guy. I know he’s not successful and he walked out on as and a few other women after that. I have a few half brothers that I don’t know. My male role models were a failed grandpa, who suffered from several things, and died (literally on my arms) from lung cancer when I was 11, and my uncle who never had a serious job, and have always had bad luck with women (surprise!), and who I never really had a connection (maybe because to this day he doesn’t know how to spell my name correctly). We come from a Italian/Portuguese descent so we all lived on the same house. My mother and grandmother were the chiefs, and they’d be the ones laying down the law.
I’ve been thought to be nice to women. I agreed with that because, obviously I didn’t have a clue. I mean, I like to be nice to people in general and I think everybody should be “excellent to each other”, but I was extreme when it came to women. Essentially, for most of my life I’ve been trained to be a white knight, and not any knight, the “best white knight”. Needless to say, almost every woman in my life, if not all, has pretty used me one way or another (Maybe all of them have) and shat on my face before they walked out to the arms of some guy who threats them like crap. It has led me to depression (serious but not ultra serious, I’m not half as suicidal as I could be), and many failures, including losing my job. I don’t blame losing my job on my ex; I blame it on me: my naiveté and my inability to deal with issues by myself, and my failure to ask help (but then, who should I’ve asked for help? I didn’t know who to talk to about me and my life, my upbringing and all, and I can’t afford an psychologist).
All but one of my relationships sucked. My worse breakup was my high school sweetheart who I brought to Canada, walked out to live with a dude who beats her. She once sent me an email saying they had a child and she couldn’t be happier for leaving me. Good for her. At that moment, I wanted to off myself, but I still couldn’t connect the dots. I started smoking, even tho I never really liked tabaco. Now I am addicted to it, trying to quit. If I had one good friend to say things to me then, I would have probably lost that friend. The time passed and I met other girls. On my latest serious relationship, I went further down in the mangina hole. It was the most laughable and sad thing on the book. It’s all my fault. I am currently very depressed. I have some seriously negative thoughts and all sometimes, but I think I’ll live.
For the most part I am what people call liberal: Drugs (as long as you stay safe, and away from me. <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>I used to smoke pot, and now I don’t. I don’t know why I stopped, maybe some other day</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>), LGBT, “Promiscuous” Sex, F~~~ing Cuss Words, Religion, etc are all good in my book (except islam, f~~~ islam). I was very supportive of feminism, because I didn’t really know what it was. People saying they want equality generally sounds like a good thing. Except.. you know.. And then the funny thing is that I was one step away of becoming one of those “this is what a feminist looks like” guys. One fine day, I was watching The Amazing Atheist on YouTube, and I used to agree on most of his positions towards anything and everything, then he made a video about feminism which got me extremely uncomfortable, and I simply unsubscribed from his channel (to be a subscriber again less then a year later). But then, the s~~~ he was talking about, even tho I was trying to bury with other thoughts and things, kept happening all over the place the Atheist community to the point I couldn’t ignore: Rebecca Watson, SkepChicks, etc. Then they went after Thunderf00t. Then they went after Dawkins, then they DongleGate happened, then the GamerGate, then the ShirtGate, then the Wikipedia Re-Write thing, and a few other things that happened since then (this is not in chronological order, I know). I was already becoming aware when Thunderf00t started to speak out, loudly, against the feminists attacks on the community and the PZ Myers thing happened (if you don’t know, PZ just banned Thunderf00t from an online blog community because he made one post against feminism bs. The community is ironically name free thought blogs). For most part, I thought this was some sort of over the top backlash because of a ‘vocal minority’ in the feminist movement. How naive, you ask? Extremely. Today I can say that feminism was the worse thing I was supportive of.</span>
One day I came across TL;DR; Sandman, Canadian MGTOW, Neo and others on YouTube. I haven’t heard of MGTOW before. It sounded crazy. “How the f~~~ do you reproduce? You want to end society? The must be a troll” went through my head. This was end of October, 2014. But I couldn’t believe how much sense it made to me as time went by. By November I was a subscriber (which means nothing really, I’m just watching a video. Even feminists could do that, But). I’ve seen many of the issues he discusses first hand in lesser levels. I generally agreed but never thought I would one day try to live without a woman in my life and be cool with it. This may sound like I gave up on women because I failed to be with them, and you could go on an argument with that, but reality is, I’m embracing the fact that it’s dangerous to be with them in any current society. I never thought I’d want to go my own way. Still, I don’t call myself a MGTOW. I don’t think I’m ready to take on that label yet. Not for the labelling, but for what it is to be MGTOW. I don’t think I am ready. Because I don’t know myself enough. I haven’t live my own things. I’m like Paul Rudd in “I love you, man” in some levels: I jumped form relationship to relationship (classic mistake, I hear), which is really the experience of being with others and doing things for others.
So yeah, I’m here now.. Hi there. I’m on the process of discovering who the f~~~ I am. It seems like I wanna be like you and walk my own way. I don’t know if I’ll make videos or blogs or whatever. Probably not. I don’t even know if I have anything worth sharing. I just wanted to say ‘hi’ and evolve alongside you guys. And if you wanna judge me, go for it.
Thanks
Schawaska,
Welcome. I found people here are accepting and not judgey.
Anonymous42@schawaska Nobody here (real mgtow) will judge you, I used to smoke and quit. All it takes practice, you’ll get it.
One of my loves (vomit) did the same thing, she abandoned me for an asshole. long story short, she has an artificial hip/femur replacement, her “new guy” beat her with a baseball bat! I know how you feel, cast pearls to these sluts, and they will devour them, ruining your investment.
Any time you feel sick of it all, come here to mgtow, we care, were not two faced assholes. We do not judge anything, we explore all horizons seeking truths, and sharing those truths with others. Thank you for stopping by, please enter and explore the minds of real MEN.
wassup Schawaska? ListenUp! here. welcome to the coolest website there is. i’ve been on this website for about six weeks now and i’m having so much fun i’ve actually been told that I am having too much fun here hahahahaha.
unlike twitter or facebook, you won’t see a ton of judgmental bulls~~~ thanks to the way the site is designed. men are allowed to be exactly as they are and say what they think which is the true value of spending time here. I think for new guys coming in it is a good idea to check out the glossary of terms and watch the videos on the front page of the site for awhile to get an idea of what mgtow is and isn’t. the reason i enjoy coming around is because in real life i would lose jobs, face jail time, and have all my resources confiscated simply because i am expressing my opinions. not so at this website. i am free to say what i wish and that is the real value of it for me. welcome and hang out awhile. you will see s~~~ that will alarm and scare the s~~~ out of you as well as some of the funniest people on the web. have fun man!
Well, Schawaska (and welcome). Let’s just put it to you this way: Having found this forum was probably a good first step for you and yet it shall be totally up to you to judge on that for yourself at any given time and yes even keep doing that repeatedly as you keep going / moving in here. From what you were writing so far, you may have a long road ahead towards becoming or even labeling yourself as a “true” MGTOW but the whole thing is a continuous process of personal development. In case you probably have also watched sandman’s introduction to MGTOW then you know, that there are several different levels of MGTOW personalities. Ok, now you maybe at this point be a level 1 or level 2 MGTOW if this label would suit you that is. For instance I as for one regard myself as a level 2.8 – 3 MGTOW and I am fine with that “label” for the time being, although I might still move on further towards level 4, who knows, but that’s not the real point. At the end of the day MGTOW still is MGTOW (except maybe to an extend the “purple pill” fraction of level 1 or less). So relax dude, learn and take in whatever you like from the infos in here. There ain’t no compulsories whatsoever, we are all humans in here and even in case you eventually maybe want to leave again after some while, because you had enough, even that’ll be just fair, too and up to you. We are here and right now you are here as well and that’s cool and the gang.
Again welcome and enjoy the exchange whenever you have the time for it and/or feel like it.
Best
Ned T.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Schawaska your intro was good opened some doors into who you are. I must judge for two reasons first just to prove one of my favorite members MG-TOWER wrong, and second because you did open that door and I always like to at least peek through an open door. I judge you to be competent enough to find usefulness and value from associating with this group of men. I judge you have what it takes to define yourself and adapt as needed to your new awareness. You have been judged. Welcome to mgtow
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Hello guys. Thanks for the responses. I finally got a job. Trying to get by after wasting my savings.
Schawaska: excellent news.
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