Hi everyone

[BzsyParticipant 76]

My name’s Ian and I’m new to the forums and site but have been living MGTOW for a few years now. I’ve never been married or had kids so my experiences can’t really be compared to the s~~~ those men have gone through. Only a handful of relationships but enough to realize I’m just not compatible with dealing with women on a relationship level.
The relationship that really got me looking at women more critically was my last. It was long distance with a single who didn’t have a job (already a terrible start). She was pretty clingy which I didn’t mind at first I was just happy to be getting some sort of female attention. I’d talk and text a bunch since it was slow at work and was excited about something new. So went on for a few months and she would get upset when I’d go do stuff with my friends and not be at her beck and call. I’d go over to my buddies and if I didn’t respond to a text she would get all “I guess you care more about them then me” and that sort of crap. So I end up going out to visit her and it wasn’t bad, overall had a okay time and banged a bunch. So I go back home and it’s the same crap, I spend a s~~~ ton of time on the phone and texting with her but as soon as work gets busy or I hang out with my friends she lays the guilt trip s~~~ out on me. So I was working on losing weight which has always been a problem for me, but I was making major progress lost around 50 pounds. She tells me she doesn’t want me to lose any more weight (probably insecure that I’d find someone else). Then the thing that really opened my eyes was when I wouldn’t randomly send dick pics to surprise her cause I knew her kids sometimes played with her phone and the idea of one of them seeing that made me sick, she comes back with “no one else could ever love you.” Basically that whole experience first got me looking at how women manipulate men with guilt, shame, and lowering confidence in order to get what they want.

Now I’ve been the clingy one in the past and it’s a major regret that I could let myself get like that. So during that last relationship I was a bit more reserved which I think helped me see the slimy s~~~ she was trying to pull.

So now I try not to acknowledge women unless I absolutely have to. I’m gradually working on myself, quit smoking and trying to lose the weight I put on from that. I don’t have a lot of occasions where I have girls fawning over me, what I see is women trying to throw out bait to get me to notice them as a ego boost for them.

So yeah that’s some part of my path towards MGTOW, thanks for letting me ramble haha.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home brother!

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[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

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[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

BigEazy, I read a lot in the forums here as well as some books that dating mothers with children is like the worst type of person you can date. There are whole big posts on this site on why it is true, and one of them is the fact that her ex who is also the father of her kids might try to c~~~ block you or something like that. Trust me on this, lots of mothers would put their children before you because they have to and I do not even blame them. You are not going to be their number one priority in life which is something that people date would take for granted when guys date girls with no baggage(no kids). If that last girl friend who so happens to be a mother of children would want herself to be your number one priority, I would think that it is not like she would put you as her number one priority too for obvious reasons. I do not think that she would try to accommodate your life very much also, and it is more on what you can do for her, since she has children and stuff. So overall, welcome to the forums.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[AmericanaParticipant 4]

Welcome Bro, first of all don’t let this piece of s~~~ get you down. Focus on yourself and go out with your friends and have lots of fun.

I recognize a lot of things that you mentioned in your post. I’m pretty sure that this is a case of a total Cluster B chick with Borderline personality disorder traits.

http://gettinbetter.com/BPDlove.html

The above link is a pretty good website and helped me a lot dealing with a full blown sociopath/narcisisstic female. If you need any help just let me know. I’m positive that the others here will help you as well!

[HaymakerParticipant 226]

Bzsy wrote:

“I guess you care more about them then me”

Standard line. I just reply with “Yes. Yes I do.” Simple and honest.

Bzsy wrote:

Now I’ve been the clingy one in the past and it’s a major regret that I could let myself get like that.

I have been there. Not proud either. I was trying desperately to get their attention with not much success. As long I learned something it was not a complete waste of time.

Bzsy wrote:

thanks for letting me ramble haha.

I much rather listen to your ramble then 2 sentences of any female I ever met. No worries 😉

Always going big, Yeah you know the kid, Call me haymaker.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Big Easy,

You have arrived at a good place. Now your life can only get better.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2730]

First of all, welcome to MGTOW. You will find this to be an awesome forum with lots of like-minded men.

Bzsy wrote:

She was pretty clingy which I didn’t mind at first I was just happy to be getting some sort of female attention….

She would get upset when I’d go do stuff with my friends and not be at her beck and call. I’d go over to my buddies and if I didn’t respond to a text she would get all “I guess you care more about them then me”

That is the problem with women, especially clingy women, they have this insatiable void for attention. You can never fill it no matter how much time or resources you throw at it.

Glad you recognized relationships for what they are and now you are focusing your energies on improving the quality of your life.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

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