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Anonymous6Everyone chime in. Lurkers are out there. They want to know what MGTOW is. Yes they can read the website, but tell them in your own words. All of you!
We are men from Europe, America, Canada, Scandinavia, Australia, Norway, Holland, just to name a few. We are Black, White, Hispanic, and anything else. We have Christians, atheists, and what not.
We are here for very specific reasons. Now read our members responses.
Sick of double standards and the “all men are pigs and rapists” mentality when so many false accusations and females raping is just normal.
Doing everything for and risking all your cash and assets for an entitled, unstable creature that is never happy is crazy.
MGTOW fills in all the blanks in my life where I asked “Why did she say or do that?”. Even when I’ve talked to ex’s as a blue piller and asked them how I was and what went wrong, some of them just couldn’t tell me.
Been told too many times I’m a brilliant boyfriend and I’m kind, generous and other positive things… just wasnt enough.
I’ve always had girlfriends and relationships since I was 17, I’m mid thirties now and the average is 2 years per girl. Looking back it’s always gone stale or she’s exposed traits that I couldn’t live with.
I’ve never wanted to get engaged or married to any of them.
Finding “a good woman” isn’t possible, even so, they can change or drop the act once the ring is on. Then it’s divorce ruin.
"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"
Anonymous12Gave her a home and offered an outlook towards a better future.
We were struggling as a young couple – finding and staying in the workforce was not simple.
She said the dog will unite us and bring us together.
But even tho she did not have a job, sat at home bitching about the dog, the hair, the Poop, the costs.
bitching about me and the Dog being best buddies and herself on the sideline.
Working 7 shifts a week around the clock, at one Point i said either the dog goes, or you go.i failed – she gave the dog away
shoulda’ kept the dog and dropped her pussy.
shoulda’ kept my money to myself, instead of seeing her p~~~ it all away on phone bills (i miss my family) and bulls~~~ items.Just one step to the red pill…
“The Power Of Non Engagement”…
by “Coterie MGTOW”
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
For the lurkers:
YouTube videos of these guys explain the MGTOW philosophy better than I can: Barbarossa, Stardusk, and Big John (MGTOW is Freedom).
My personal story:
The MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) life I have now seems to be the natural result of a series of life experiences. For one thing, I used to be a stubborn teenager who would often ditch school and run away from home. I didn’t want to live by the rules of others, I just wanted to live my own life. As a young adult, I decided I had to compromise. I had to live by the rules of my society just enough to get by. But my personal time could be spent doing whatever I wanted.
When I was 19 years old, I went to college and became really philosophical. I began to question everything I was told to believe in. I really hated the stress of modern living. I hated the pressure to make good grades, get a career, and work myself to death for money. I’ve always wanted a simple life. I also lusted after women. I couldn’t understand why they were so difficult to get along with. I wanted to impress them so I could have sex with them. I didn’t know anything about PUAs (pick up artists) or “game.” I just learned about dating by trial and error—a lot of embarrassing errors.
I decided, as a young adult, not to have kids. I didn’t want the responsibility of raising them, as well as the financial cost. I also didn’t want to lecture them about being responsible and getting a job because I wasn’t doing so well with my own life. If I had kids, I’d want their experience to be much easier than mine. I would want them to focus on doing activities that interest them instead of being chained to a school curriculum or some job they detest. I cannot provide myself with that option (let alone kids).
Specifically, what lead me to find out about MGTOW was my quest for knowledge about dating and romantic relationships with women. I went out on dates when I was a teenager and young adult. Sometimes I would “score” and sometimes I would just end the date with a hug. Since I wanted to score, I read all the books & literature I could about dating women and having sex with them. A lot of this information didn’t seem very helpful. They gave me suggestions like: compliment women, buy them flowers, wear some nice clothes, and be nice.
Years later, I started reading PUA ebooks and books. I read a book by a PUA named Mystery. He had a lot of knowledge, and I got some red pills, but I didn’t like the complexity of his dating methods. He knew about female psychology and how to exploit it. But I didn’t feel like using all sorts of “trickery” to get a date with a woman. I wished there was a more natural way—a way to do it and feel comfortable. Well, asking a woman for her phone number and a date was never a comfortable experience for me.
After reading a few PUA ebooks, and realizing why my behavior was unattractive to women, I began to watch PUA videos on YouTube. I realized that women are freakin’ complicated creature and the rabbit hole of female psychology is very, very deep. The PUA’s explained, in detail, why men fail at dating. It’s not really our fault because we tend to look for logical, simple solutions to problems—which doesn’t work with the female psyche. When it comes to women, you have to get past layers of insanity in order to get to the good stuff.
Anyway, the PUA videos led me to Tom Leykis videos. I consider Tom Leykis to be the godfather of MGTOW. He gave me the essential warnings about women that I needed to hear. But I didn’t believe him at first. I wanted to stay in my blue pill world—even though I had to admit he was right about a lot of things. His presentation was rude & crude. That made me upset. I still felt that if I could find a unicorn (a special kind of lady that will behave the way you want her to and will never betray you), I could prove my NAWALT (not all women are like that) belief. Here’s the problem with NAWALTs: there aren’t enough of them to make a lifetime commitment (such as marriage) a worthwhile risk. Another way to think of it is this: if you were interested in skydiving, and your skydiving instructor said that parachutes have a 50% failure rate, would you still go skydiving?
The Tom Leykis videos led me to MGTOW videos. I probably watched a few Sandman videos at first. After getting those serious red pills, I realized that as much as I wanted to be married to a special lady—there was no guarantee the relationship would last. And the consequences of divorce were far worse than the few benefits that marriage had to offer. Then I discovered MGTOW.com and continued my journey. I still learn new information when I read the articles and the forum posts here.
My lifestyle is based on making choices that are good for ME (instead of my family, my friends, my girlfriend, my society, etc.). I will work, earn money, educate myself, learn job skills, invest money, and someday retire from the rat race. Then I’ll be able to travel and enjoy a simple life. I’ll still date women, but I will make it clear that I don’t want a lifetime commitment, cohabitation, and babies. I won’t need permission from a wife to stay out late, or buy a motorcycle. All my assets will be safe from alimony, palimony, and child support. I choose freedom—as much as I can get.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
I learned to value myself and not be ashamed to be a MAN…
My needs, my life, my happiness, my responsibility…
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
Society has become obsessed with promoting feminist agendas under the guise of egalitarianism.
Female entitlement is at an all time high, whilst men are used by monkey branching, c~~~ carousel riding, pussy pass wielding bitches who get a big thumbs up from society when they fleece a man for all his resources that he worked hard to acquire, stops him seeing his kids, and kicks him out of his own home.
It has reached the point that I have no interest in engaging with females anymore for anything beyond casual conversation. I’m nine years single, and two years celibate.
I have no interest in getting STI’s, being involved with an unwanted pregnancy, putting myself in the position to be the target of a false rape allegation, being used for my resources or putting up with all the bulls~~~ drama that comes with women.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
Anonymous4220 years ago I saw this:
I look back now and I see this:
I’ve had women in my life, but besides the sex they were really REALLY boring. Even the sex got boring pretty fast. What’s the point in having a girlfriend/wife if you’re bored out of your mind and aren’t sure if she’s cheating on you or not? I suspected that my last girlfriend (2011) cheated on me multiple times, but I don’t have any proof.
My girlfriends were sometimes angry that I wasn’t a passionate, romantic guy who’d want to pay for everything, take them out on dates, swipe them off their feet etc. because they feel like they DESERVED it, simply because they have a gash between their legs and two lumps of fat with nipples on their chests.
The topics of discussion were always boring and centered around her. When I brought something up about myself, they’d say two or three things and pull the conversation back to themselves. And they got p~~~ed when I came up with solutions. They just wanted to nag, like this:
Why should I invest money, time and sanity in dealing with women if I could just have the place to myself and do whatever the f~~~ I want?
"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K
Mgtow? I am MGTOW.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Anonymous42This is your head during relations~~~s:
This is your brain on MGTOW:
Anonymous43mgtow is recovery and rehabilitation after being broken down by women and society for 45 years.
Anonymous3MGTOW is the TRUTH!
There is nothing more than that. It provides the only functional and proven model of relationships.
Any other model (white knight, romantic, feminist) is akin to a cult: you must believe without proof, and your belief must be strong to survive all the proofs gains it!
MGTOW model is scientific. You have behaviors explained, and you can see them happening as explained. You can even predict outcomes of relationships using the MGTOW knowledge.
I am a former blue pill cult member that realized the TRUTH the hard way: by marriage.
Women are the great MGTOW teachers. If your survive with your sanity intact, you cannot but realize MGTOW philosophy. That is why most old men are MGTOW, even if they dont use that word or know the formal science that we have going on here.
Lots of reasons, partly due to isolation, a mens shed so to speak.
Been battered and bruised out there in the real world, lots of blue pill men being massive c~~~s, I don’t compete with them I pitty them a bit from time to time.
Never found my unicorn, wasn’t burnt too badly by women, just lost interest after years of chasing an illusion.
For me the system is broken, people are broken and I’m too busy having a good time flying SOLO. Catch me if you can bitches!
"Society is to blame" Denton
Why would you care? MGTOW guys are your best “friend”. A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Men are stupid, rapist, child molesters, deadbeat dads, lazy, incompetent and childish. You women are soooo hot you get tired of being hit on by losers and creeps; MGTOW solves all those issues. They stay away from women – period. No problemo – be happy that all those stupid, lazy, incompetent, child molesting, wife abusing, losers are out of the picture.
There are no good men – never were – never will be. Prince Charming turned into a lazy, pot bellied, video game playing couch potato who wants a sandwich.
8 Year Relationship.
She had no goals or aspirations…BUT I STILL STAYED.
She wanted to stay in the same city all her life….BUT I STILL STAYED.
Sex was s~~~ & she offered nothing else…BUT I STILL STAYED.She lived at home and had ZERO OUTGOINGS…then would moan to me about needing a few months to save for a holiday.
I came here when she gave me an ultimatum.
“ITS TIME TO MOVE IN BECAUSE WE’VE BEEN TOGETHER 8 YEARS AND IT’S NOT GOING ANYWHERE” – Cupcake
I left that relationship, ghosted her ass and now I actually love my life. There’s areas I’m working on but MY LIFE IS BETTER WITHOUT HER & ALWAYS WAS.
I’m only 27 so the money I will save from no relationship, no marriage and NO KIDS means I can retire 10-20 years earlier! That’s more time to enjoy my life and spend it doing the things I love rather than sat at a DESK.
Last week I paid for sex with my ‘perfect woman’ – after an hour…even that got old. (Says it all)
Focus on yourself. A woman will only bring DESTRUCTION into your life.
Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUTI want to remain in control of my life and decisions. I spent years married being told you can’t buy that, you can’t do that, and you can’t go there. I’m an adult with a damn good job. I grew up dreaming of becoming an adult and having the freedom and money to do whatever I wanted. Getting married destroyed that dream. I worked full time, put her through school, and took care of the house. I wanted to go hunting with a buddy, nope. I wanted to go to a friends house for a party, not going to happen.
After years of manipulation, abuse, and control, I wanted out. Then I found out how difficult that effort is. Once you give up control, it is hard to get it back. You want your house, better expect her to get her pound of flesh. You want to fairly divide your assets, not going to happen. You want to share custody of the kids, better prepare for a fight.
I don’t say all of this as a bitter or angry person. I am living through the reality of this game. I offered her more than half of everything, which was not a small amount of money. Nope, not enough. She wants everything she can manipulate the law to get, my retirement, alimony, spousal support, exorbitant child support (could buy a new car every 2 months), sole custody, personal items, etc. Hell, I’m surprised she hasn’t asked me to reimburse her parents for the wedding.
For her, divorce is the lottery and she’s trying to match as many numbers as possible to maximize her payout.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
MGTOW is a roadmap to avoid a system that accepts, encourages, and rewards your destruction.
MGTOW is self respect.
My father was a highly flawed man in many ways. However he taught me many useful mantras, the one most applicable to MGTOW is: “Always take care of yourself first, because nobody nobody else will.”
Sovereignty above all else.
For her, divorce is the lottery and she’s trying to match as many numbers as possible to maximize her payout.
My new favorite quote right here. As a teenager, when I first heard about how the 50-50 divorced split worked (regardless of who earned what), I immediately smelled bulls~~~. Very shortly after, my parents were visibly shocked when one night at dinner, something about marriage came up in conversation. I just shrugged and said, “Marriage is just a formality that women have to go through in order to take a man’s money. If there was an easier way to get it, they probably wouldn’t even bother with the dress and the ring and all that other stuff with a wedding…”.
I didn’t even look up from my plate when I said it (I thought it was obvious), but then all conversation at the table stopped, and I could feel people staring at me. I looked up and parents and older brothers were looking at me like a just grew a third eye.
In a way, it was like a third eye. I could easily see stuff that they could not see. Most of those people are now referred to in legal papers as, “Defendants”, “Noncustodial fathers”, “support payers” and, “former residents of…”.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
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