Hey Guys!

[Cjguz87Participant 0]

Hey guys! My name is Chris I’m 27 years old from NY and I’m real happy to have found this website! I sort of stumbled upon it being that I’m interested in the state in which the male condition currently lies mainly due to societal conditioning, expectations etc. I find myself reading a lot of articles and watching a lot of movies…including the ones on this website on these issues and after a few hours of watching videos and reading articles, I was sold, I joined 🙂 Anyways, I’d like to get into why I was motivated to join and a little personal story of my own that alludes to what most of us guys face when trying to interact with the opposite sex and its consequences.

Since I already had an interest in getting to the bottom of these issues and bettering myself as a man or person in general, on all levels, I felt as if I had a natural attraction to the creeds that MGTOW stands for. I felt further empowered because honestly, I’ve never really had much interaction with the opposite sex aside from obsessions (with the wrong girl), so with that, no big loss really. There’s been just a yearning to find the right woman. I’m on POF, but that’s quickly proving to be a site from hell. Don’t even get me started on the women who require a man to be in the 6 ft range to be considered. Yes, I saw that link with the twitter comments on how short men should “go away” or “die”, unbelievable. I’m 5’2″ btw, so this hits home to say the least. Anyways I’m not going crazy, I’m not fixated on what I don’t have. I try to be as aware as I can of my emotional state, and I seek to improve myself on all levels. For the most part, I consider myself an emotionally independent person, so even long before I discovered this website, I was never too fond of the idea of marriage or having kids. Seeing the marriage related videos on this site solidified my stances. I care little for what society sees me as.  Anyways, here’s a little story for you guys.

 

This happened about a year ago and a few months ago, there’s a Barnes and Noble store that I like to go to every once and a while to just relax and read. Every now and then I’ll see a woman that I’d like to ask out and I eventually get around to doing it. Anyways there was this girl that I saw working there that I made small talk with and right before I left, I asked her out and in the same sentence told her I was leaving. I noticed how she had a bit of a startled look on her face probably because she was knelt down arranging the DVDs, I don’t know when I asked and I didn’t think anything of it. I must’ve surprised her…whatever. She told me she had a boyfriend already so that was that. Fast forward to about one xmas ago it’s still light out. I see that same girl there, in a different section of the store, walking the OPPOSITE direction of where I’m going to. No interaction then or since the last. I get to the section I stop at and pick out a book that piques my interest and read it. A couple minutes later a man walks up to me and extends his hand for a handshake which I give and introduces himself as the manager. He explains that “apparently a little while back you asked out one of my employees…and that you cornered her, making her feel uncomfortable” my reply was “excuse me?” “I didn’t corner anybody! Where’s your proof of this?” he replies “Well, I’m just gonna have to take her word for it. I’m going to have to ask you to please leave the store” WHAT?? Take her word for it? I couldn’t believe this perceived accusation furthermore, the lack of judgement this manager had by taking an early 20-something girl’s word for it. You know what though? Despite my annoyance of the situation I found myself in without an ounce of provocation on my part, I left because I felt like I really didn’t need to be there. What if I had stayed? Would’ve my unwanted presence then at that point, become illegal out of my defiance? To me, it was not worth the trouble, especially on the whims of a “frightened, paranoid, self-victimized” GIRL, not WOMAN. What do you guys think of this? I feel like I have to watch out for this kind of s~~~ everywhere I go now. And it’s also why I don’t ask out girls that work in stores anymore.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I’m real happy to have found this website!

I’m really happy to hear you say that. Welcome. Thanks for joining and making an intro.

Yes, I saw that link with the twitter comments on how short men should “go away” or “die”, unbelievable. I’m 5’2″ btw, so this hits home to say the least.

There isn’t much online that I would see which would provoke a negative emotional reaction, but that twitter link “exposing heightism” did it. It’s the sickest s~~~ not because it’s hateful, but it’s SO f~~~ing dishonest and stupid – and it the worst reason to disqualify a guy. Those same t~~~s would be all over Tom Cruise (or any shorter male celebrity) with no problem at all. More importantly, THEY ARE SHORTER THEMSELVES!. They are like Jewish Nazis!

In fact it was so outrageous , I decided if any woman makes a single comment about my height anymore, she will be kicked to the curb. Even though it’s a compliment.

But why did it bother me?? After all, I’m 6’2″ and height/weight proportionate to Superman. So based on that alone (and since only 4% of men on the planet are as tall as I am), I could consider myself “advantaged” that way.

You know why it bothered me?
Because my father was 5’4″.

Any woman who would disqualify a guy based on height – or date a tall guy for that reason – is SCUM as far as I’m concerned. That’s like telling a girl she should commit suicide because her eyes are brown. A girl I met for a date once said “OMG I love that you’re so tall. I only date tall men over 6′. I was afraid you may have lied on your (online) profile.”

ME: Oh really? how tall are you?

SHE: 5’5″

ME: Gee, that’s too bad. I only date women under 5’4″. Looks like you’re not getting laid tonight.

Of course she thought I was joking. Then, when I never called her again, she asked “hey we had a pretty good time. Why didn’t hear back from you?”. So I told her plainly: “remember when you told me you only date tall guys? Well I only date shorter women than you. And I wasn’t kidding.” So if it’s any consolation, there are some of us who look out for our shorter brothers and we are out there disqualifying these bitches for you. This way, you don’t have to waste any time with these women to find out how f~~~ed their mentalities are,

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Your story about the manager who said:

apparently a little while back you asked out one of my employees…and that you cornered her, making her feel uncomfortable

Jesus Christ. I would have asked him: “And you bought it? Tell me…. what if I were Brad Pitt? Would exactly the same behavior have made her feel uncomfortable? You and I both know she would have dumped her boyfriend on the spot. So be honest with yourself before you start pretending. She has you whipped though. Are you sure she is YOUR employee? Because it looks to me like you work for HER.”.

That would really bake his noodle, wouldn’t it?

How funny would it be if you then pointed at him, and in a loud voice (so everyone could hear it) said:
“This homosexual is cornering me and making me feel uncomfortable”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[YuriParticipant 185]

Hi there and have a warm welcome. Take a seat. Yes, over there. I will sit with you so we can gloat.

I loathe women that actually think of height as a deciding factor in their man, because as always it shows how misinformed they are. They just go short man = weak man, but the truth couldn’t be further away. The strenght of a man isn’t really defined by his height, or his value as one either. If anything i would argue for you that shorter men have an advantage that their movements are a lot more fluid and natural. I mean, have you ever seen a 6ft 4″ man try to do a roundhouse kick? I saw my friend try it, it was quite hilarious.

Pretty much all the action stars from Bruce Lee to Sylvester Stallone, etc. are under 6ft. More to the point, if a woman ever s~~~s on you this way, stating that you need to be at least 6ft, ask her then this:
“Oh, in that case you would never f~~~ Brad Pitt, i presume? Or George Clooney? Or Tom Cruise? Or Sylvester Stallone? Or Jason Statham? Because they are all under 6ft.”

As KeyMaster stated above, at least some of the rest of us are getting back at them in your place. Personally i neither challenge the limits of human height nor am i short at 179cm, but i am quite handsome (muscular low bodyfat build with thick hair and cheekbones you could break your hand slapping), so i revel a lot of times at c~~~ teasing women, then not giving them the time of day and then going home with the Schadenfreude of knowing that i might just have made her cry herself to sleep.

Welcome.

 

The right man at the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

[MendokusaiParticipant 256]

Honestly I am 6 foot & can tell you when it comes to broads it doesn’t mean s~~~ (even though they say it does,just like they’re all looking for the “nice guy”) The only thing these little c~~~s care about when it comes to size is not your height,weight,dick or muscles-all that or lack of is suddenly overlooked when they learn your WALLET is huge.Take a look at all the rich old f~~~ers out there with the trophy wives/girlfriends,did they land them with their wit,personality & charm? Hell no,most are probably f~~~ing assholes in real life but hey they are loaded and a womin will sink to depths and lower herself just to enjoy a life of privilege.They are lazy creatures full of vice & sloth whose lives revolve around self pleasure.

Oh and BTW welcome!

[HammerdownParticipant 528]

Welcome to the team, my friend! I think a lot of us felt the same way, drawn to the MGTOW side of things because we smelled something rotten. I find a lot of the people in the Manosphere are some of the best critical thinkers out there, and I don’t think I’m far off in assuming that most of not all of us knew something was wrong from the get go, and searched for answers, becoming more and more hungry for the truth until it led us here: to a f~~~ing all you can eat truth buffet. The guys here are all great fun and bring up some great thought provoking discussions and questions. Enjoy your stay and welcome to the fold!

On another note, I can’t help but laugh at “made her feel uncomfortable”. There is a video by Barbarossa (if you haven’t seen any of his videos, I highly recommend doing so) about a UK-based site called Tubesnap (correct me if I’m wrong on the name) where women snap pictures of unsuspecting men on the train- without their consent -and then upload them to the internet for other women to rate their attractiveness, also without their consent. If a man did this to women there would be a mob advancing on his house with pitchforks and torches. If a man saw himself being photographed and uploaded to the internet and “hot or not”-ed against his will and objected, he’d be told to “suck it up”, or “it’s all in good fun”, or “what could you be so butthurt about? All these women are calling you handsome, take it as a compliment”.

Next time a woman says a benign invitation for a date makes her uncomfortable, throw your head back and laugh.

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