Hesistant, I Feel, To Date, Loss of Independent Me.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

As much as I want me a nice woman, I cannot help but feel hesitant to go on a date and ‘GASP’ risk starting a new ‘relations~~~’.

This woman has two kids (ugh!), she is attractive, 7 years younger than me, self employed, she likes me and wants to meet me.
She expects me to pay for the first date, I told her that sounds needy and that she was rude to tell me that, and I told her she has a job, why can’t you pay for your half? I told her I would have paid for the first date anyway, then she could pay for the next one.

Seems the more I s~~~ I give her about her behaviour and expectations, the more she likes me, I am being SO un-mangina like.

So right now, I am ignoring POF as I have important s~~~ to do that has taken over my mind (re-mortgaging my house in my own name).

I am SO f~~~ing concerned about losing independent me if things work out, I don’t want to live with another woman (not yet anyway), I want to live by and make my OWN F~~~ING RULES, to come and go as I please and not answer to anybody, I just don’t want to fall into a trap.

All I want is some female company and sex when I want it, and to be free of It completely when it’s ‘me’ time.

We need some legalised brothels here.

I want a warm female body and companionship without all the f~~~ing baggage!

(I remember the feeling when my LTR ended, like being let out of prison)

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[chirParticipant]

You need to sit down and consider.
She is evaluating your capacity in being a father to her spawn. Once a woman has spawn their priorities change. Spawn first, then themselves then you.
The question you have to ask yourself.
Is her companionship, and warm meat taco an equivalent exchange for putting up with her eventual escalating bulls~~~ and the additional stress of trying to deal with her spawn.
Always think about probabilities 5 to 10 years down the line.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

You know chir, I think my subconscious is trying to tell me that already, but at 46 years old it seems difficult to find a decent woman without kids already.

I do have a bunch of cats though, they keep me entertained and think I am a god, and they don’t bitch or issue commands and all they require is cat food, a place to s~~~ and p~~~ (usually the litter box 😉 ) water, and me.

Part of me says don’t rush into a trap, the other part of me below the belt says ‘get me wet’.

I want a relationship that only lasts as long as it’s still good, and I want to leave it when she starts talking commitment, but of course, if there is a NAWALT for me out there, I’ll take her and keep her. But I live in reality.
Damn reality…………………………………………………..

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

megatoad69 wrote:

but at 46 years old it seems difficult to find a decent woman without kids already.

Yes, I am that age as well, and because of the feminists movement, it is by design.
I went through the marriage roulette twice…wasted 16 yrs of my life.

Will not marry again with how things are now.
It was too painful & costly too get my freedom I have now.

Go find you a one hight stand, or a sweet looking hooker or fembot or anything besides marriage IMHO
Or just rub one out to porn and enjoy your freedom

[megatoad69Participant 449]

I bow and give thanks.
“Thank you god**, for internet porn!”

**Note, there is probably most likely no god, it’s just a myth people.

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[RoyDalParticipant]

@megatoad69; chir said it for me (but I can’t resist chiming in). Dating is a waste of your time and money, and it’s a health risk to boot. If you have to put your hot dog in a hot buttered bun, then save both your time and money and visit some place where escorts are not illegal or brothels are legal.

I fantasized about hiring an escort to visit me for an hour during football half-time shows. It takes far less time and comes out about even with the cost of going to the stadium, what with parking, the hassles of driving there and back, the price of tickets, refreshments, souvenirs, and all the other hidden costs and time-wasters involved.

Think of a date with a non-escort the same way, only with no guarantee of playing bury the bologna.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ApplejackSpectator 235]

It’s not worth it man. It never is. All the risk, expense, and BS. Remember….you only get to f~~~ her 1% of the time, and you’ve got to deal with her BS 99% of the time. And you’ll probably have to f~~~ with her kids too. She’s already been knocked up TWICE. Imagine how many dicks she’s had in her and all the diseases she could have. She’s a demanding, stupid bitch like all women are and will suck your energy and time in exchange for her hot pocket. Just paw off and be done with it. NOTHING is worth sacrificing your freedom for. I know. You’re getting older and it’s nice to go out with someone. But it’s just a bitch trying to get someone to take care of her crotch goblins and give her free s~~~. She’ll put up with a lot from you because she’s way past her prime, but she’s trouble and only interested in getting what she wants from you – your resources, time, and eventually your freedom.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

megatoad69 wrote:

As much as I want me a nice woman, I cannot help but feel hesitant to go on a date and ‘GASP’ risk starting a new ‘relations~~~’.

So don’t date. And whatever you do, don’t get into any relationships.

You don’t need either to have fun with women. In fact they usually only ensure you DON’T have fun with women. And if you’re not having fun, what’s the point?

One of the most important things you can tell a woman is: “This is not a date.”

Another is: “This is not a relationship.”

[megatoad69Participant 449]

Hey, good news, she said she feels we are not compatible!

But, if I can find me a no BS, low drama woman, I’m in, until then I am not (in).

And the ease of which women can get dates on POF, Applejack, you are correct, She accused me of being like ‘all those other guys’ who split’
And I’m thinking how many guys pumped and dumped, f~~~ed and chucked her, it grosses me out.

Anyway, I detected high drama, high maintenance, high stacked BS from her anyway, otherwise I would have busted my b~~~~ to meet her, I just had no real motivation for it. I got out of a screaming high drama 15 year relations~~~, not gonna do it again!
And I’ll be damned if a woman lives here and claims rights to my house and possessions.

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

ME
9/2/2015 12:22:33 PM
Can’t have kids, I don’t have a womb, or a uterus.

Sorry my focus is off POF at this time, got a lot of stuff to do, in a limited amount of time.

HER
9/2/2015 8:07:05 PM
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It’s all good. I feel we are not compatible. You and I are on different wave length. Sorry

ME
9/4/2015 8:31:04 AM
What kind of a wave are you?

HER
9/4/2015 10:35:55 AM
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The more seeious less kid like mentality. I fget you think its cute or xoy or w.e but i dont. You bring up flag so i listen to that. No offense. I hope u find who you lookingvro

ME
9/4/2015 11:07:49 AM
WUT?
Did you write that with your fists? Some of it actually made sense though, good work.

RED FLAGS! ME? Did you think all your flags are green?
Don’t make me label your red flags, only the USSR had more than you, by like only 3 red flags difference or something!

Good luck out there!

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

To tell you the truth I don’t see that you have a problem. You are 46. If you were a fly on the wall and listened to the other side you would know that your sexual market value (SMV) is through the roof. Use it; anything from 25 and up. Single mothers are all desperate for a LTR. Hence the conundrum. Men want no strings, women want strings. You have all the power. You decide how long and in which direction the relationship will go. Make that clear.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Applejack wrote:

It’s not worth it man. It never is. All the risk, expense, and BS. Remember….you only get to f~~~ her 1% of the time, and you’ve got to deal with her BS 99% of the time.

I’ve said this to people so many times, and they always look at me like I’m nuts. I’m supposed to deal with someone that makes my life miserable and adds a ton of stress to my life just so I can spend 1% of my time having sex with her? Of course manginas are gonna act like they have marathon sex for hours with their female owners every night, but you know in reality sex for them is 10 minutes once every week or two. Hell my last girlfriend was sucking or f~~~ing me literally every time we got together and ultimately it still wasn’t worth the headache of keeping her around.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

Common sense and fear of a trap kept me away from this one.
First red flag was when she whined about me being like all the others who only want sex and then run away, therefore she deserves and should expect a dinner and drink and for me to pay for it, to demonstrate commitment mentality?
I detected a desperate high maintenance ‘provide for me and my larvae’ vibe there.

May as well commit suicide, winding up with someone like that kills a guy anyway.

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

megatoad69 wrote:

First red flag was when she whined about me being like all the others who only want sex and then run away, therefore she deserves and should expect a dinner and drink and for me to pay for it, to demonstrate commitment mentality?

Shoulda whined about her being like the rest and expecting you to pay for a few expensive dates and then running away and demanded she demonstrate interest in something other than your money.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

I did!
And I felt great calling her out on her unreasonable expectations.
She is a woman who does not yet realise her market value is low, almost 40, 2 kids, high expectations, a bit loopy.
NO THANKS!

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[Anonymous 11]

megatoad69 wrote:

She is a woman who does not yet realise her market value is low, almost 40, 2 kids

Her real life sexual market value is plummeting towards the center of the Earth. It sounds to me like she’s f~~~ing every guy she meets on POF right off the bat and getting treated exactly the way a slut should be.

Do realize there are multiple c~~~s for every hole in the online dating scene so this will give her an inflated sense of her sexual market value and probably explains why she feels you’re not compatible for her. I have a 50 year old female friend that keeps getting pumped and dumped yet still has not learned her lesson about dating online. I don’t waste my time with online dating. I can sniff out crazy a lot quicker in meat space plus I know she’s not a land whale right off the bat. Online dating skews the SMV curve back in their favor to a degree. Do not fight in terrain that is not favorable.

megatoad69 wrote:

I am SO f~~~ing concerned about losing independent me if things work out

We make the choice as to losing our independence or not. If she cannot handle it, then let her throw a tantrum and find herself a mangina. Things have not worked out if one party loses independence, This works both ways too.

Don’t let your longing for a NAWALT to soothe yourself lead to you getting entrapped again. You are relishing your freedom so enjoy it without wasting your valuable time on Unicorn hunting.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

Robert Hallam wrote:

Single mothers are all desperate for a LTR. Hence the conundrum. Men want no strings, women want strings. You have all the power. You decide how long and in which direction the relationship will go. Make that clear.

Seems like having a kid to a woman is like being served a big ole piece of humble pie, formerly desperate men are not so desperate for her anymore, guys don’t stick around.
It’s like us guys have the last f~~~ing laugh.

Ha-Ha!

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Applejack wrote:

Remember….you only get to f~~~ her 1% of the time, and you’ve got to deal with her BS 99% of the time.

Which is why you should only be around for that 1% of the time, and find something else to do for the 99%.

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