Help on going Monk

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  • #639877
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    Grump
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    I need some advice. I’m focused on improving my life, my circumstances, my job, all of that stuff, and I’m happy with the conscious decision to do so. My problem thus far is with the subconscious drive to mate. I’m not even 30 yet, my drives are pretty rough to fight out. So far I’ve been able to stave off impatient and irresponsible decisions by whacking a quick one off and getting my hormones settled down, but I want more full control of my drives before they start getting out of hand.

    Any advice from you other monks that have done this already, or that are making progress towards this goal? I feel like I’ve plateaued, which is garbage because I know that it’s possible to get these urges completely under control.

    #639911
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    Ghost
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    It takes practice. You have to practice not thinking about it. When the thought comes to mind, you have to have certain anecdotes ready so you forget ever wanting it. The more you read stuff on these forums, the easier it gets. You’ll get there, just be patient. You’re human. This is normal.

    #639918
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    Hmskl'd
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    That biological urge .. I call it the Old Lizard Brain rearing it’s ugly head.
    Things get so much better every year I get older. For me, and this is only me, I no longer find myself thinking about the mating thing ..
    This may sound simplistic and even trite; however, I’ve found that I’m now just too busy to think about the stuff. Here’s where it gets a little dicey, during the early years I did .. and what saved me .. for the first time I will openly admit it was “and still is” a healthy dose of Sci-fi. Yes, a collection of the best movies with lots of favorite characters who are unavailable in this world .. but alway there on disc.

    Each guy has to find his own path through the genetic programming which we all inherited through generations of evolution.

    The Lizard Brain is so strong because it is what evolution has implanted to make sure the species continues. Fight me at your own peril .. “It says” .. I’ll torment you until you tow the line and submit. As mentioned, the Lizard subsides with age and that’s a very good thing.

    .. Sci-fi and all the characters that it offers were a comfort to me during the difficult early days. they are always there and help me to forget the perils of the real world of dating relationships.

    It’s now rare, and I say this with a smile .. that I think about the mating process. I have found so many new activites to take the place of thos pursuits, both vocational and avocational .. including some hobbies that have really become an integral part of my life.

    In a couple of weeks I’ll be traveling to a memorabilia convention associated with one of those hobbies .. there will be gals there dressed to sell their products for the sponsors who pay them. I’ll pass by and Ghost on .. or if approached .. simply “listen to their canned speel .. and say, no thanks” and move on. I see them, yet, I’m no longer obsessed in any way. The Lizard Brain does subside, not completely .. but substantially .. and, imho, life gets better; so much better as other areas of interest just naturally occupy a larger portion of daily thought.

    #639941
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    Old Buck
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    Reverse role play your brain.

    When you are doing an activity, conciously tell yourself “I am able to enjoy this activity BECAUSE there isnt anyone else here to f~~~ it up for me.”

    Even when rubbing one out. Afterwards thank your creator for the silence afterwards.

    Its the little things in life that you can finally start enjoying.

    Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

    #639943
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    PistolPete
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    Been monk for many years. Its rough going monk as a young guy because there is the hormone issue—we can’t pretend its not there. fortunately as you get older the urges cease all together. So what to do?

    1) out of sight out of mind—everything in our culture–music, movies, etc, all sends the same message 24/7–“you must pursue pussy and get laid” everyday all day. Constant exposure to this nonsense will have an effect upon you soooooo expunge it from your life.

    2) A little mental discipline—you can use a form of mental conditioning to associate (consciously and subconsciously) pussy/sex with something unpleasant—this will kill the urge.

    Example. Every time you think of pussy deliberately go and smell something very unpleasant, or taste something really gross (like broccoli), or look at really gross images—like rotting bodies maggots etc.

    Believe it or not your subconscious mind will begin to associate pussy with something unpleasant and then the urge disappears, and once gone it may come back but only occasionally and what’s an occasional wanker among friends. Its like taking a p~~~ its short, over with and get on with your life.

    #639948
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    Narrow road traveler
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    Monk is a state of unified self. It’s not a label.Monk is an option I’m already at peace with. Monk at it’s core is a unified self without any external validation necessary.
    So in summary of my two cents. Be who you’re objectively at peace with primarily. No F~~~s Given is soon to follow.

    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

    #640016
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    WPL
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    I think you’ll find that it becomes easier as more time passes, provided that you can avoid temptation in the meanwhile. I’ve finally reached a point where I’m at peace with my decision to go Monk, and although it wasn’t easy in the beginning, it has brought me a powerful sense of control over my life.

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    Anonymous
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    If you really need sex with women and prostitution is legal where you are then go to brothels to slowly move away from hitting on women.

    Whores are great at showing you women’s true personality as well.

    Other than that just fap a lot. I never had a huge sex drive so it was probably easier for me but I found the occasional visit to a brothel was enough for a while and now I don’t even want or need that.

    #642484
    Golgotha777
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    Yeah, in terms of celibacy, strict adherence mentally works out the best.

    There has to be a trigger of some kind usually to initiate the impulse. I enjoy the charge it gives me. All the neural pathways become re-sensitized to dopamine which probably accounts for the increased stamina, stability, and strength I get on a long streak.

    #642485
    Russky
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    1) stop hitting on chicks
    If you have to talk to chicks – act polite and short like you are at work
    2) congratulations! you are now a monk
    it’s that simple

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

    #642551
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    Romulus
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    I need some advice. I’m focused on improving my life, my circumstances, my job, all of that stuff, and I’m happy with the conscious decision to do so. My problem thus far is with the subconscious drive to mate. I’m not even 30 yet, my drives are pretty rough to fight out. So far I’ve been able to stave off impatient and irresponsible decisions by whacking a quick one off and getting my hormones settled down, but I want more full control of my drives before they start getting out of hand.

    Some of us are not so young anymore and our needs are not as pressing as when we were in out twenties. Lots of young pussy and lots of hormones at their peek. Easy to get distracted. I would never criticize you for taking a taste. Most of us old timers did when we were your age.

    So, I will say this…there are big mistakes and little mistakes when it comes to women. Should you have a moment…what ever you do, just don’t get the little darling knocked up or you are going to be dealing with her and a lot less money..for the next 25 years.

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

    #644419
    Antipathy
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    Your urges will subside as you get older. I found my urges decline when i started taking anti depressant medication, before that my urge to masturbate was uncontrollable and often.

    #644550
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    Atton
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    I need some advice. I’m focused on improving my life, my circumstances, my job, all of that stuff, and I’m happy with the conscious decision to do so. My problem thus far is with the subconscious drive to mate. I’m not even 30 yet, my drives are pretty rough to fight out. So far I’ve been able to stave off impatient and irresponsible decisions by whacking a quick one off and getting my hormones settled down, but I want more full control of my drives before they start getting out of hand.

    Any advice from you other monks that have done this already, or that are making progress towards this goal? I feel like I’ve plateaued, which is garbage because I know that it’s possible to get these urges completely under control.

    Sex bot

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #644655
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    Solid
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    Take a look at this post

    [!!!NSFW EXTREME ALERT!!!] Your default princess

    C~~~s at your age, are THE real dumpster, is like you f~~~ a public toilet !
    Go to the dirtiest public toilet that you can go nearby, try to find a HUGE dump there, when you find, take a picture, use as your cellphone’s wallpaper, write “AWALT” in letters that every time that your phone, you will remember it.

    Delete all social media, really, every f~~~ing single account, remove all chats and all other things, I use my phone for example, just as an alarm clock, a music player, a GPS, a book and email reader, and that’s it. Keep things simple. If you talk to c~~~s, make sure you stay in your scope, do your business, only that, don’t leave the door open so they can talk about anything other than business.

    Find something that you like, something constructive, something that you can see your evolution, something that you will find amazing to do. I started with electronics a year ago, keep a log of what you do, a journal, or notes. Every month you will see your evolution, and it will justify how much it worth your efforts.

    MGTOW + a lot of focus = everything is possible

    And I mean, is REALLY possible, with time and money, you can even put your own satellite in space, master a martial art in a level that is not imaginable for you now, become absolutely expert in any subject.

    #644950
    Gravel Pit
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    your subconscious mind will begin to associate pussy with something unpleasant

    Even before I took the red pill, I would always say… “I love women’s bodies but I hate their attitudes.” The attitude and general lack of intelligence in women is a huge turn-off for me. I remember going through a brief stage where the only way I could get off was to envision a woman asking for my seed, wanting to get pregnant. I was envisioning something like a NAWALT. And then I was turned on by prego chicks briefly.

    But after 4 years celibate (through simply not chasing women or talking to them, not like an oath of celibacy) I find that I’m just not turned on by women, they’re just too stupid and manipulative. I view them as a bio-logical weapon…a walking, talking trap.

    Now, since I’m 31 and still human, I just service my self once a day. Sometimes, Ill go a few days without it. Something will trigger the urge and Ill just take care of that so I don’t go insane. Luckily its only once about every 36 hours. I think if you masturbate more than 3 times a day for over a week, you may have a problem, go see a doctor or therapist. LOL

    #644964
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    Monk
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    Reflect on the true nature of women and what you can expect from them. Nothing but pain and anguish. There are no unicorns. You WILL come to grief. AWALT.

    See sex for what it is. Your meat tube in her (less than savoury) meat tube. Yuk. A brief exchange of genetic material. Dull, boring.

    Understand the sex drive for what it is – a programmed response designed to initiate reproduction. It’s not ‘love’. That’s all crap.

    Keep busy. The Devil makes work for idle hands.

    Simply stay away from them as much as possible.

    #645469
    Gravel Pit
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    Reflect on the true nature of women and what you can expect from them. Nothing but pain and anguish. There are no unicorns. You WILL come to grief. AWALT.

    See sex for what it is. Your meat tube in her (less than savoury) meat tube. Yuk. A brief exchange of genetic material. Dull, boring.

    Understand the sex drive for what it is – a programmed response designed to initiate reproduction. It’s not ‘love’. That’s all crap.

    EXACTLY! VERY WELL ARTICULATED AND PLAIN TRUTH

    This is why Ive had no trouble whatsoever staying single for 4 years without sex or relations~~~s. I absolutely treasure it and would not jeopardize it for the illusory comforts/benefits that women ‘provide’

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