Help me : final exit from soap opera to MGTOW

[miawmiawSpectator 81]

Hello dear MGTOWs,

I will try in this post to give you an idea about me and how i came here and i also would like i have your comment on the relationship in the second section

Like many of you i grew up with the narrative that women are special creatures, that the most beautiful moment is when meeting the love of your life and living a chivalry or romantic story that ends in marriage .(Even if female nature was different i would still consider the statement false, no human is great and we should live for higher goals). As an introvert distance from women made their charm look each time greater to me. My history of relationships is a sequence of unconvering dark sides of those angels. I am quite lucky because i never had a relationship that lasted more than 6 months , even though one of these made me waste 2 years in grief. I woke up late because my first one was a real unicorn who made me believe that women are really worth the time and effort. I am 29 now, i live in north africa , i have a good career , not brilliant but i afford everything i need. Marriage seems to me now like a way to make your life revolve around s~~~ in the current sick society, unless you meet a unicorn and have special values and know-how to transmit to your children. The society i live in is 70 % westernized 30% traditional, where single men near 30 are seen like guilty criminals (because of us good innoncent cute girls can’t find husbands) . I have a geek and poet side, i am proud of it even though female nature wants you to be more proud of being a “bad boy”. I was too unqualified for the environment i lived in. I looked for love , sincerity , trust .. things that women claim want to ..but in reality i was surrounded by the trickiest women in the world. They can be very cruel, use religion to claim that love can only be expressed by men trying hard to please and by exchange of soft words, make you believe they are untouchable angels and that’s why it’s justified to stay in that posture and believe that you are living a love story or hope for love while being exploited in different ways, i just seemed like a sheep to them. It’s crazy here, good parents teach you that people don’t have sex before marriage..you need a lot of critical thinking and investigation (sometimes i used hacking) to find out that virgins are a rarity, so girls just act according to what you seem to them. It turned that the angels have nasty sex when there is some hypergamy or bad boy involved, they can lie, the smile is fake, they cheat, they are selfish, they don’t smell as described in novels, the baby voice is not spontaneous, they love money so much, they think all time about dirty tactics while claiming they know nothing, their interests suck, their group conversations are nasty…I don’t want to generalize, but i believe this is what happens when there is no male authority over them , the dirty takes over the clean.

I also want to talk in this introduction about the latest relations~~~ that made me search for MGTOW(the keywords were women+manipulative)
I was feeling some loneliness with testosterone after long boring months, and i made the mistake of dating a trainee where i work. She comes from another town, she got back there now because she finished but apparently she is greedy and wishes to move to the city where i work (her town is better but she was just fascinated by malls and men driving expensive cars ) . I disabled my critical thinking and assumed she is special , different..her cute face like an asian and boobs deluded me , and i deployed all my creativity to offer her great moments (provider mistake)
Here are some red flags about her :
– During the 20 dates i paid everything , not a single gesture towards her pocket..$2000 including car repair because of her
-From the early dates, she text bombed me : i miss you , i miss you , i miss you, i miss you…but when we meet she is in a hurry to leave (the rules?)
-The first time i noticed she easily lets me touch her, later when she read my personality she started to act reluctant (he is a nice guy use sex as the final card)
-She claimed to be a virgin,but i am sure she is not,i don’t have energy to investigate her dirt and but her behaviour and body display a loooot of “experience”
-She said “past is not important”
-From time to time she blurts out things that show she knows a lot of things about relationships, and she watches soap operas, when i asked her to name the continents or define sincerity she couldn’t
-I told her i love you early just to test and joke she said i love you too, later she said if you really love me (she quickly wants to get involved in something with me)
-I caught her 2 times talking on the phone in the restaurant WC
-She asked me to give her money before she leaves, i told her you are priceless to me, she said that’s what i love most about you, later she asked me to find another training for her
-We both said to each other we aren’t interested in long term relationships, but when driving in my city.. she says comments like : “wow i want to live here..can you really drive again in those places with someone else?”
-She insisted to see my appartment by saying “you are hiding something” “you have a wife” “i need to use your laptop” once there she said “i am ill i need to relax”.. she acted as ill so i don’t try sex , started watching TV and she said ” come near me are we going to argue over the remote control “as of now and forever”? wtf we said no long-term
-When i finally wanted to escalate in the car (no intercourse) she said “oh what are you doing what are you doing” ” say i am yours” and i said it then touched her boobs like a moron
-She told me a sad story about her childhood and her current family conflicts, she said that’s why i want to move..she also said her father died with a heart attack at 35 with other fishy things, she is lucky because it’s difficult for me to check (she lives 400 miles away)
-She said men and women can be friends, “proof i have a lot of male friends” (i saw them on facebook them they are bad boys , it suggests to me that i am not her type and she lies when she says she likes me, i don’t care)
-She cried with fake tears ” i won’t see you again”…
-When she left to her town she said “i will only turn my phone to keep in touch with you”, i found out she has another number and another facebook profile
-THAT’s THE GREATEST, after 7 dates or so she said i am not showing enough interest and that she’s happy because we are just friends now (and i will continue to entertain her). I told her you had to tell me this by text, i can’t , i am too attracted to be just friends with you. She remained silent for 1 min while i am driving her home, she did super computations and suddenly kissed me in my neck. and said : “neither do i want to be just friends with you”

-When i finally called her to end the relationship because of her manipulative behaviour she said “why you do that i really want nothing from you”

Now she ‘s mad because she lost a great provider and an horizon to move to my gynocentric city (she actually succeeded for a while in activating my white knight instinct and i was almost going to give up holidays to work to buy her a car and find a better paid training for her) ,i don’t answer her calls, my phone rings with an anonymous number at 3 am, she texted me about something “professionnal” i didn’t answer . Anyways she ‘s like a crazy compass now because i cut everything , i even used to recharge her phone credit. But i am really afraid guys and i am posting this at night!

-Will she come to my workplace and said i harassed her?
-will the poor virgin claim i raped her?
-WILL she try to get in touch with my parents?
-will she come faint near when i am with my friends?

I really don’t know but i know girls who cry fake tears are dangerous, anyway that’s my disgusting KO story after 2 years dating-free ,and i definitely declare myself MGTOW : born again

Thank you again for the great forum

[Buller100Participant 2189]

AWALT , well you saw her traps her actions many are so shallow they are not worth anything.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

miawmiaw wrote:

Marriage seems to me now like a way to make your life revolve around s~~~ in the current sick society, unless you meet a unicorn and have special values and know-how to transmit to your children. The society i live in is 70 % westernized 30% traditional, where single men near 30 are seen like guilty criminals (because of us good innoncent cute girls can’t find husbands) . I have a geek and poet side, i am proud of it even though female nature wants you to be more proud of being a “bad boy”. I was too unqualified for the environment i lived in. I looked for love , sincerity , trust .. things that women claim want to ..but in reality i was surrounded by the trickiest women in the world. They can be very cruel, use religion to claim that love can only be expressed by men trying hard to please and by exchange of soft words, make you believe they are untouchable angels and that’s why it’s justified to stay in that posture and believe that you are living a love story or hope for love while being exploited in different ways, i just seemed like a sheep to them. It’s crazy here, good parents teach you that people don’t have sex before marriage..you need a lot of critical thinking and investigation (sometimes i used hacking) to find out that virgins are a rarity, so girls just act according to what you seem to them. It turned that the angels have nasty sex when there is some hypergamy or bad boy involved, they can lie, the smile is fake, they cheat, they are selfish, they don’t smell as described in novels, the baby voice is not spontaneous, they love money so much, they think all time about dirty tactics while claiming they know nothing, their interests suck, their group conversations are nasty…I don’t want to generalize, but i believe this is what happens when there is no male authority over them , the dirty takes over the clean.

Greetings, brother. This ^^^^^ is straight GOSPEL right here. This chick you were with is straight up poison.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome. Cut and run….and do it fast. She is quicksand waiting to devour you. Avoid the trap.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Good job brother!

I presume you might have to interact with her at work. Be nice, do not get alone with her.

If you think there might be a chance that she could bring false acceusations againsed you, there are guys here who will tell you how to handle this type of thing… I’m not really too good at it, but it’s a balance between not giving her the big “f~~~ off”, being professional, and keeping all the text/email saying she wants to be friends/wants to see you.
You are right!!!this woman seems like real trouble, but then, AWALT

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[miawmiawSpectator 81]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Good job brother!

I presume you might have to interact with her at work. Be nice, do not get alone with her.

If you think there might be a chance that she could bring false acceusations againsed you, there are guys here who will tell you how to handle this type of thing… I’m not really too good at it, but it’s a balance between not giving her the big “f~~~ off”, being professional, and keeping all the text/email saying she wants to be friends/wants to see you.
You are right!!!this woman seems like real trouble, but then, AWALT

No , her internship is over, she has nothing to do where i live, i was her last card.She has no skills , to find something else to do here she must sleep with someone corrupt. Now she can only come back to cause me trouble or try to convince me by crying to live together because we are “soul mates” which is impossible. So i am only afraid of revenge

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

So do you have any recent communication from her where she is being nice, asking to go out with you etc?

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Also, you mentioned she might try to shame you by contacting your parents. I understand it’s a different culture and if she did it it would be a nightmare?

Does she know how to contact your parents?

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

AWALT

Done ….

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Miawmiaw,

Kindly try to put more space between your Ideas while writing your posts and replies. Your Introduction is admirable, but it needs to be “unpacked” to be more easily understood, considered, and appreciated.

While reading your story I kept thinking that a hard lesson for every man to learn is “No good deed goes unpunished” when dealing with woman.

Your story indicates that you are panicking and are currently suffering from mental agony.

Here is some witty sage advice from my black friends in Chicago that has helped me whenever my creative mind was on overdrive:

“Your Trippin” Miawmiaw.

So, stop “freaking out.”

Try to do whatever you can to find a state of mind know as Serenity and you will be better able to “roll with the punches.”

miawmiaw wrote:

-Will she come to my workplace and said i harassed her?
-will the poor virgin claim i raped her?
-WILL she try to get in touch with my parents?
-will she come faint near when i am with my friends?

Yes, you have put yourself into a position where all those bad things could happen to you.

Most of those things mentioned above have definitely happened to me and other men that I know.

Too many woman all around the world, especially in gynocentric cities, are liars and use a “scorched earth policy” with the men that they exploit.

Finding a lawyer you can call when the police are at your door and leaving cash with a good friend to help bail you out of jail ASAP are good ways to protect yourself in this situation.

That being said, things like that don’t happen the way you are imagining them right now.

All those bad things that woman did to me and the guys I know had the following characteristics:

We had numerous warnings and opportunities to walk away from the Relations~~~s. The manipulation, pheromones, and mind control that our women used compelled us to keep coming back for more.

We were numb, forgetful, preoccupied, and/ or unable to act effectively to defend ourselves.

We were overconfident with our physical strength, wealth, and masculine agency.

Here are some of the reasons I do not believe that you are in as much hot water as you believe:

You are not in jail now.

You have a Red Pill awareness, and have found MGTOW.

You are not answering her phone calls, texts, or emails.

You have stopped falling for her charms and cut her off.

You did not introduce her or allow her to ingratiate herself into your family or community.

Her fainting and hurt feelings over loosing you may actually improve your social status at work and with friends.

Other MGTOWs will provide more advice.

But, here are some things I learned to do that were helpful:

Throw out anything in your apartment or office that belongs to her.

Use counter propaganda to prepare your family, community, and colleagues at the job for a possible attack:

Tell them you had been “dating” a woman who turned out to be unsuitable;

She was too needy and irresponsible;

She did not take the break up well;

And an attractive woman like her will get over it soon enough and will have some other man to sponge off of and use as an ATM.

Use all of that energy from your Red Pill experience to digest the wealth of information at MGTOW.
And try to enjoy the posts.
MGTOWs are hilarious.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[miawmiawSpectator 81]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Also, you mentioned she might try to shame you by contacting your parents. I understand it’s a different culture and if she did it it would be a nightmare?

Does she know how to contact your parents?

These are just speculations. I don’t know what’s happening in her mind. It’s not a nightmare in the sense that i can get direct harm (no honor killing in my culture, no job loss or court), but sometimes they have plans where they get in touch with your family without your knowledge to later make you mad : invent lies, claim to want to make me a surprise , get their sympathy, and enter my life again from a backdoor?. When it comes to social scheming imagination, male brain reach its limits well before the female one.

For your first question i deleted everything unfortunately but i will try to recover.

Thank you all for your kind replies

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

TMM’S advice was good, especially the pre-loading propaganda part.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome brother and keep every text and FB message she

ever sent just in case so you have a record of your

conversations.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

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