Help Me

[God is DeadParticipant 63]

I’m at the end of my rope brothers. I don’t know how much of this cruel world I can take anymore.

Last night was the first time in four years that I had suicidal thoughts slowly creep their way back into my psyche.

She was the first person whom I had truly connected with on a deeper level since my last girlfriend, and I blow-it by letting past insecurities get to me by calling her a “fat ass.”

She was the fifth person who I dated with this year alone brothers! I also got the furthest with her than any of the others (several hour makeout session ftw), and she was even willing to be my friend-with-benefits and I f~~~ing pull this s~~~… it’s almost like I subconsciously don’t even want to be happy, because whenever an opportunity arises I’m very skilled at thwarting it on my own accord.

Next month will be the three year anniversary of the last time I had sex. I’m starting to get desperate but I try and still employ some kind of standards to my dating scheme; I just don’t know what to do at this point, I have a difficult time expressing my feelings towards the ladies as it is and on the rare occasions that I do it’s only a matter of time before I emotionally self-destruct all over again. It’s like a f~~~ing self-fulfilling prophecy.

Anyways, I just wanted to let you know that it kills me to even admit this to anonymous people on the internet, I’m not sure if I could ever completely open-up to a therapist like I can to all of you. I serve as a pillar of support and strength to all of my friends, so I do my best to appear happy around them when I’m ironically probably the most broken person on the inside. All I want is to give and receive love to someone who I can trust with all of my heart, is that really too much to ask for?

I want to apologize for bombarding all of you guys with my overwhelming negativity, I just don’t know who I can turn to at this point… tears are actually streaming down my face as I type this. I know that I’m worthy of love, I just can’t seem to stop past doubts from overriding my sensibilities. Normally I’m a very logical person (somewhat Spock-like), and this is probably why I try to avoid expressing my emotions a general majority of the time (since I always seem to spiral outta control like an overspun top).

If any of my brothers have some solid advice for me that would be greatly appreciated, I guess I have a lot of self-loathing that needs to be addressed… it’s kinda funny how the people who are the most outwardly cheerful and friendly are oftentimes the ones who hate themselves the most and seek validation in all of the wrong places…

I’ll leave you all with a quote that is very near and dear to my heart from a fellow man who fought the same fight I did (and lost):

[RoyDalParticipant]

Walk away from her.

There is a reason why all the world’s major religions reject suicide as a solution to earthly problems.

Give serious thought to your own mental state. Are you depressed? (My guess is that you are.) Are you in a state of “burn out”? (My second choice.)

Wake up, and fly straight: Meaning, whatever is afflicting you today will be gone in the morrow.

“This too shall pass.” Just you be alive to witness and enjoy it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Walk away from her.

There is a reason why all the world’s major religions reject suicide as a solution to earthly problems.

Give serious thought to your own mental state. Are you depressed? (My guess is that you are.) Are you in a state of “burn out”? (My second choice.)

Wake up, and fly straight: Meaning, whatever is afflicting you today will be gone in the morrow.

“This too shall pass.” Just you be alive to witness and enjoy it.

You should know that Robin Williams was taking two drugs that had warnings on them — they both created impulses to suicide and/or other forms of self-destructive behavior. Williams’s example is not one for any rational man to follow.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Just because I brought up the subject . . .

For myself, I went through a serious bout of depression once. Getting my vitamins, etc, was a key factor in hauling me out of it. The other was focusing on goals and getting busy on them, putting my consciousness outside my own self and toward something bigger than little me.

The vitamins, etc, that worked for me are:
* All the regular vitamins, A through K (via a one a day pill or two)
* Extra vitamin B-complex — your nervous system needs it to run (another pill)
* Vitamin D(!)
* A long list of minerals (included in my one a day pill)
* Omega-3 essential fatty acids (another pill).

After a week or two, my “depression” symptoms went away. To his day, I take two one a day’s, a B-complex, and two omega-3 pills daily after filling up with breakfast.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Your exposure to modern women and the modern dynamics to women are causing most of your self destructive thoughts.

Focus on yourself and F~~~ EVERYTHING ELSE! Just think solid and being solid will follow, modern women turn your mind to F~~~ING MUD!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Just think solid and being solid will follow, modern women turn your mind to F~~~ING MUD!

Yep! I agree.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

God is Dead wrote:

I blow-it by letting past insecurities get to me by calling her a “fat ass.”

1. Is her ass actually fat??
A. Yes — Leave. Never look back.
B. No — Apologize. Leave. Never look back.

2. Are you allowing your self worth to be determined by the opinion of a woman??
A. Yes — STOP. A woman’s approval is every bit as worthless as her
rejection.
B. No — Good. Proceed with caution.
3. Are you, indeed, serious about taking your own life??
A. Yes — STOP Call a suicide hotline and speak with a professional.
No one on this site, or anywhere else, for that matter, can stop someone committed to taking
their own life, so you must take ownership of this.
B. No — Good. Proceed with caution.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

I don’t know how old you are, but it’s easy to think that you need a certain woman in your life to feel whole and at peace. I struggled with emotional turmoil all through my 20’s before I finally started value myself and feel good again about myself.

I grew up in a small town and could never get away from the influence of the women I had been involved with. Gossip travels fast and women love drama. They can make you an actor in their public Soap Opera. You lose sight of your goals and don’t know which way to turn. This will lead to confusion, irrationality, anger and depression, self hatred and self destructive actions.

Women really don’t care about how thier dramas affect you. It’s just a game to them.

If you insulted the woman you think you love and now regret it – don’t!

Alpha Chads insult women all the time and the women love it. Women are full of insecurities and don’t really like themselves most of the time. They preffer it when you don’t compliment them. They think you are below them if you adore them and they will treat you like dirt for being a fool.

I didn’t know these things when I was young, but if I could go back in time I would move to another town, make a fresh start. I would tell no one and have some time to get over romantic drama and look at life a-new.

Don’t be a victim for someone else’s enjoyment. If you were to go insane or kill yourself she wouldn’t care. It would just make an interesting story to tell her friends and portray herself as the victim who needed pity.

You wouldn’t be around to defend yourself against any accusation and would soon be forgotten when the next little drama with the next guy was being created for more amusement.

You need time and space to mentally and emotionally heal. You need to make yourself strong again. Give yourself a break. This drama will pass and new opportunities will present themselves.

You have to be the one who cares about you. Take care of yourself.

It's Time to get Wise

[God is DeadParticipant 63]

RoyDal wrote:

After a week or two, my “depression” symptoms went away. To his day, I take two one a day’s, a B-complex, and two omega-3 pills daily after filling up with breakfast.

I agree Roy, I’ve been taking vitamins on the daily since I was a young child, so I’m pretty sure that it’s moreso my mental rather than physical state that is still in shambles. I think I just need to start my workout routine again, I shouldn’t have stopped doing that in the first place.

Anonymous wrote:

Focus on yourself and F~~~ EVERYTHING ELSE! Just think solid and being solid will follow, modern women turn your mind to F~~~ING MUD!

Too true Tower, although I have to admit that it was completely my fault this time around. Looking-back I had fallen head-over-heels in love with her and wanted to start a relationship but she wanted to stay single… she was down-to-f~~~ and so was I, it’s just that I got (perhaps subconsciously?) jealous that she had so many other suitors at her beck and call while I’m over here on Planet Black Sheep, unable to fit-in anywhere or ignite a romantic passion in most women, even in the ones who seem interested in me.

If anything I’m mostly disappointed in myself for letting it get to my head when I could be f~~~ing her brains out right now, I feel sexually-starved living in a culture that promotes and glorifies it every which way, it just feels like I’ve been repeatedly shooting myself in the foot or ramming my head against a wall for years now as my options slowly dry-out.

[Anonymous 43]

I was always put off by sex, so going dry since June 2009 doesn’t really affect me much.

Sorry to hear that you struggle. It is this anonymous base that you will find truth honesty and support. We have noting to gain or lose to reach out to our brothers.

If you haven’t noticed, that is not the only woman walking the earth, I’ve seen a couple others here and there.

If I may be so bold…why do you seek validation from some other person, particularly a woman. Women are some of the skittish creatures ever created. They have insecurities about how they look…hence the fake up. They have insecurities about their body…fake boobs and other implants, They change their mind all the time…look at a women’s hairstyles over time. How often do you f~~~ with your hair?

Look at the clothing they wear…some is truly bizarre, and a whole closet full every year.

I would no more trust a woman for validation than I would trust my parakeet. The true measure of a man is what can he do with what he has learned. That’s all. What have you learned, and can some one pay for your knowledge and skills? Can you live off that money? If not, get skills and knowledge that someone will pay for.

Having a woman in your life is like having a very high maintenance pet. Only the pet can not divorce you and take half your s~~~.

Once you equate woman with pet, the world is a totally different place.

Ok I see you are looking at me funny. I get that a lot. It’s ok

Pet
Food
Grooming and fur clean up
play with it
take it for a walk
take it places
keep the pet out of your personal papers
buy it toys
annual licensing
shots
vet visits
clean up s~~~, vomit
old age and death after 10-15 years

Woman
Food, hell my c~~~ ate more than me most days
Grooming and hair products, fakeup huge monthly bill…s~~~ the hair salon would cost $300
have sex once in a while, maybe go somewhere fun
walk around the mall
movies, dinner, her parents house
you pay the bills and keep her nosey nose out of the investments
you paid for a much nicer car than you wanted, bigger house than you needed, and what about the jewelry in the drawer where she threw it?
anniversary present dinner and a shakedown, valentines day extortion, sweetest day, birthday, Christmas, needs a card and a gift. F~~~ 12 holidays a year, $5 for a card, $100 dinner movie and gift $1200 a year times how many years? 40 years? lol $40 big ones p~~~ed away on cards and holiday bulls~~~ over a lifetime.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Shots, hmm birth control pills…
clean up s~~~…you think she’s gonna clean if she has you to do it, fool? and fix what she f~~~s up, and fix what her friends f~~~ up too.
Old age, you aint gonna make it 15 years sucker…divorce court is death.

Change your perspective a bit, and things get a little better, I think.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Once you equate woman with pet, the world is a totally different place.

Ok I see you are looking at me funny. I get that a lot. It’s ok

Pet
Food
Grooming and fur clean up
play with it
take it for a walk
take it places
keep the pet out of your personal papers
buy it toys
annual licensing
shots
vet visits
clean up s~~~, vomit
old age and death after 10-15 years

Woman
Food, hell my c~~~ ate more than me most days
Grooming and hair products, fakeup huge monthly bill…s~~~ the hair salon would cost $300
have sex once in a while, maybe go somewhere fun
walk around the mall
movies, dinner, her parents house
you pay the bills and keep her nosey nose out of the investments
you paid for a much nicer car than you wanted, bigger house than you needed, and what about the jewelry in the drawer where she threw it?
anniversary present dinner and a shakedown, valentines day extortion, sweetest day, birthday, Christmas, needs a card and a gift. F~~~ 12 holidays a year, $5 for a card, $100 dinner movie and gift $1200 a year times how many years? 40 years? lol $40 big ones p~~~ed away on cards and holiday bulls~~~ over a lifetime.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Shots, hmm birth control pills…
clean up s~~~…you think she’s gonna clean if she has you to do it, fool? and fix what she f~~~s up, and fix what her friends f~~~ up too.
Old age, you aint gonna make it 15 years sucker…divorce court is death.

Change your perspective a bit, and things get a little better, I think.

YES.
Only a man who’s been married could have this perspective. Listen carefully, young men.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[God is DeadParticipant 63]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

1. Is her ass actually fat??
A. Yes — Leave. Never look back.
B. No — Apologize. Leave. Never look back.

2. Are you allowing your self worth to be determined by the opinion of a woman??
A. Yes — STOP. A woman’s approval is every bit as worthless as her
rejection.
B. No — Good. Proceed with caution.
3. Are you, indeed, serious about taking your own life??
A. Yes — STOP Call a suicide hotline and speak with a professional.
No one on this site, or anywhere else, for that matter, can stop someone committed to taking
their own life, so you must take ownership of this.
B. No — Good. Proceed with caution.

1. A. She was a little chubby but it’s only noticeable once she takes her clothes off… here’s the full story and text I sent her: she was complaining because I kept calling her “baby,” so I said, “fine, I’ll drop the flatteries (no need to blow any further smoke up your fat ass)”
2. B. No, never. I have long hair, look like a hippie, and smoke weed somewhat often so I could give a rat’s ass what other people think. I think this experience made me realize how low my self-worth actually is though.
3. B. Not anymore, I was considering it last night because I felt like such a failure when it comes to the opposite sex and I’m horny as f~~~ing hell! My biggest stumbling block is that (as most of you guys know) the general majority of women are c~~~s these days, so finding someone I truly cared for and losing them by my own hand is heartbreaking to me.

Greg Honda wrote:

You need time and space to mentally and emotionally heal. You need to make yourself strong again. Give yourself a break. This drama will pass and new opportunities will present themselves.

You have to be the one who cares about you. Take care of yourself.

I’m 24 Greg and I grew-up in a small town too, so I know what you mean when you talk drama and gossip (bugs the s~~~ outta me). I think I was starting to go all Alpha Chad on her after I already gave her the impression that I was Beta Brad so maybe it just rocked the boat a bit too much. Thanks for the kind words too, I guess I just still got some growing-up to do.

[Anonymous 5]

I checked your opening paragraph in your introduction first post where you openly acknowledged you love to troll forums.
I checked a number of your other posts that seemed to be constant subtle bitching and undermining of men.

In this post you’ve stated a number of nonsensical, contradicting ideas that basically state you feel you’re unworthy of a land whales love and that basically you deserve to be unhappy because of it.
You’re saying we need a woman’s love to be happy.

All this nonsense seems to be Feminazi propaganda.
It’s also typical of some unattractive, self righteous, bitter crewcut feminazi to stoop so low as play the suicide sympathy card to give you immunity because no man will question the validity of your bulls~~~ for fear of causing you to self harm.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Stop depending on someone else for your happiness and depend on yourself for your own happiness?

Do you love her?
No what you love is the woman in your mind. You love the feeling someone brought you. You love the reflection of light / vibration of air converted into electrochemical signal in your mind.

Why don’t you use some other things to convert into electrochemical in your mind that you call it happiness?
Some other solid things that will never let you down. Stop gambling with things that may or may not bring you happiness and hurt you in the end.

You need to let go of the lie that women can love you. See all the women around, they love what a man can bring her, they love his utility, but you can hardly find a woman that love a man that is not a success object.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[God is DeadParticipant 63]

Anonymous wrote:

I checked your opening paragraph in your introduction first post where you openly acknowledged you love to troll forums.
I checked a number of your other posts that seemed to be subtle bitching and undermining of men.

In this post you’ve stated a number of nonsensical, contradicting ideas that basically state you feel you’re unworthy of a land whales love and that basically you deserve to be unhappy because of it.
You’re saying we need a woman’s love to be happy.

All this nonsense seems to be Feminazi propaganda.
It’s also typical of some unattractive, self righteous, bitter crewcut feminazi to stoop so low as play the suicide sympathy card so no man will question the validity of their ideology.

Well Trail, you’re right when you say that I used to be a feminist, but my first-hand experience with them made me change my mind. And you’re also correct when you point-out that I used to troll forums, but I’ve matured a lot since my middle school days.

Look, I’m not trying to undermine anybody, just trying to understand myself better and I needed a place to vent my feelings to. And where did I say that you need a woman’s love to be happy? If anything my biggest regret is not getting to boink her before all the s~~~ hit the fan.

I know that what I’ve been talking about isn’t exactly a positive topic, I’ve just been ignoring my true feelings for far too long and it seemed to bring-out the worst in me whenever I was interacting with women.

[Anonymous 43]

amigo, I don’t think any of us here want anything to do with women. Too many risks for 3 minutes of OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Im GONNA OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stop with the weed and grow the f~~~ up.

You are self medicating some problem with weed and women. Figure out what is really bothering you and fix it. Emotional pleasure is nice but it wears off, and then you need it again.

[Anonymous 5]

God is Dead wrote:

She was the first person whom I had truly connected with on a deeper level

And you lost this deep meaningful LOVE connection and now you’re suicidal without it, ha ha
It was the mans fault too (you, being the man)
All because of a cruel comment made by the man (you)
You’re claiming your unhappiness is all the man’s fault (you) because you’re narrow minded, stupid and cruel.
Now you haven’t got a woman to wuv u, haha (So, of course, you’re so miserable, without a woman’s love, you’re suicidal)
That’s what women want us to believe, that’s what we’ve been brainwashed all our lives..
We know the opposite is true.

You’ve studied these forums for the better part of a year.
It’s in-congruent on every level that you’d be posting this beta blue-pill bulls~~~ on a MGTOW forum.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Modern Weed is too strong. Smoking everyday will destabilise your mind and leave you open to crazy thinking.

Yes I was a drug user for many years but the stuff we smoked was enough to get high in the evening without fuzzing up your head the next day when you needed to do stuff. I didn’t improve my life until I cut back and then stopped smoking dope.

I would like to get stoned still, but the only stuff available now is SupaSkunk and I just don’t want it.

I eventually realised that although using dope could make my s~~~ty life bearable. The fact that it made my s~~~ty life bearable meant I didn’t have the motivation to improve my life. Dope eases the symptoms of depression but it can never be the cure.

Just my 2 cents

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 42]

Remind me to come here when I want to kill myself, I think threads like this will get the job done!

[Anonymous 5]

God is Dead wrote:

And where did I say that you need a woman’s love to be happy?

Your whole troll post says it.
Furthermore you reply to MGtower

God is Dead wrote:

Looking-back I had fallen head-over-heels in love with her and wanted to start a relationship but she wanted to stay single… she was down-to-f~~~ and so was I, it’s just that I got (perhaps subconsciously?) jealous that she had so many other suitors at her beck and call while I’m over here on Planet Black Sheep, unable to fit-in anywhere or ignite a romantic passion

and then you go on to totally contradict yourself when you reply to me

God is Dead wrote:

If anything my biggest regret is not getting to boink her before all the s~~~ hit the fan.

Again, you keep contradicting yourself.
According to this summary statement, you’re miserable to the point of suicide because you couldn’t orgasm in a meathole.

The only consistency is male stupidity,, and male misery without the love of a woman.

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