Hello to the MGTOW Community

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Greetings everyone,

I wanted to write a brief intro, as I am new to MGTOW. Not to the way of life, as I have been mostly single since 2003. Only having dated on and off since that period, with very few short/long term relationships. So in a sense, I’ve been MGTOW without realizing it, for quite some time now. But only 2 months ago, discovered the community and philosophy of MGTOW. And this incredible site and the brave men who have walked through hell and back, still here, and thriving. And if not thriving, then at least on the path towards recovery.

Since having discovered MGTOW. I took the Red Pill. And have been steadily watching, learning and studying the underlying science behind this philosophy. Stardusk, Barbarossa, Spetsnaz. And many others. Each opened my eyes to the reality that for most of my life, I have been completely asleep. Blue pill as can be.

I’ve always been in relationships, and have had female partners. The longest was 8 years. And I regret it, as I literally wasted my youth on someone who did not deserve it. If I had access to MGTOW resources then, well….let’s just say my life would have been quite different. I would have dumped her. And spent those years banging. It may sound crude, but there is no shame in wanting to derive pleasure from females. Spending that amount of time, with just 1. Given everything I have now been exposed to, confirms that this was a total f~~~ing waste of my time. Alas, we learn the hard way. If only knew then…

Now, in my mid 30’s. I have found these resources. They have opened my eyes and awakened me from the slumber that has been the majority of my life. I see now the truth behind Feminism. Misandry. Hypergamy. The utter horror stories that I have been reading the last few days, of the good men who had been used and f~~~ed over by the court system and ex-wives. Just brutal. I empathize with those men very much. I was not married, but my longest relationship dragged on for 8 years. Was not a walk in the park either. I thank God that I never married. What a nightmare that would have been.

So now, having seen the many videos on youtube. Almost every video here and audio. I am in a period of profound awakening.

As an aside, I would like to mention, that my father is also learning about the MGTOW philosophy and teachings. He’s just getting into all the materials online, steadily going through them. I would not be surprised if he signed up in the near future, given his interest and what he’s found via all the content here and on youtube. As he already feels a sense of relief and comradery.

I am humbled by what I see here. We stand on the precipice of something great. Where men will regain their rightful place. And this philosophy cannot be stopped. It is as futile as trying to stop truth. Just as Barbarossa stated, [paraphrasing] “MGTOW represents certain fundamental truths, which when absorbed. It becomes very difficult to go back to being as we once were.” That for me, has been the process for the last 2 months.

My father got f~~~ed by the courts and by my mother. I lost 8 years of my life to someone totally undeserving. But we are both here, and we want to thank all of you. For being here, for sharing and for joining and moving together. Evolving, healing and growing into stronger and even better versions of ourselves.

With the Deepest Gratitude to MGTOW, and everyone here. The pic below, is a nice graphic representation of the inherent process that is MGTOW. Freeing one’s self from all forms of enslavement. And going our own way.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Welcome, brother!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Freeman98Participant 119]

Welcome from another new member. When I first saw the picture at the bottom of your post I thought it was a woman cutting a rope bridge and leaving all the men hanging on the other side. Then I blew the picture up and saw that it was a man escaping. Great picture good luck and enjoy. Our stories are very similar to each other.

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome to the forums Stentorian, make yourself comfortable!

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Amazing introduction. Welcome brother.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Welcome to The Source.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome to you and your Dad!

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome sir! fantastic intro!
i’m glad you found the path to freedom.
enjoy the forums and website
Cheers-

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Stentorian
I am looking forward to your posts

[Anonymous 54]

Welcome! Two generations of Mgtow!.
I thought that painting was me!

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome brother,it’s good to have a father like that.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome!

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Welcome Stentorian, and the dad of Stentorian. It is a great blessing for both of you to have a multi generational understanding of these truths. I am looking forward to your contributions.

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome. I wish I could get my brother to get online, but he’s older and less internet savvy than me. You’ll find lots of good stuff in here. It’s almost like wearing a tampon…you can talk about hiking, biking, boating…and even the tampons we’ve had in our lives…or not. Welcome. (The guy in your picture has too much hair to be me)

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Stentorian,

Thanks for your heart warming introduction.

Stentorian wrote:

…..the reality that for most of my life, I have been completely asleep. Blue pill as can be…

It is good to finally have words and ideas to process what has and still is happening in a man’s life.

MGTOW is a great place to explore ideas and develop a plan for the future.

Stentorian wrote:

…My father got f~~~ed by the courts and by my mother…

Same with mine too.

My dad gave up the whole house plus half his pension along with other cash prizes. His life story regarding the women in his life can be summed up as “No good deed goes unpunished.”

My sisters still get bail outs and “Helicopter Rescues” for the numerous emergencies that pop up.

For the past 35 years, my mother is continuously indoctrinated by television which is a major apparatus of the Gynocracy. Most of my siblings still fight with each other because of her viscous lies.

My youngest brother #6, who is 37, lost his computer business/ rental properties and has been staying in mom’s basement for the past six months. When he went to watch the Presidential debates with mom and sister #2, he could not contain his joy every time the god emperor Trump put despicable Hillary in her place. Now, I can’t reach him and they may have called the police on him.

Stentorian wrote:

…My father is my best friend. We talk 2-3 times per day…

Me too.

However, it took about a decade to undo my mother’s vile character assignation of my father. Sadly, I was too easily manipulated by her and wasted too much time being a momma’s boy.

But, my dad and I have been best friends for the past thirty years. We have had wonderful times together. We are both musicians and have performed together throughout the USA. He tells me and everyone that I saved his life and he is healthy in his eighties because of my alternative health methods.

Dad has done most of the things in the following link below. It is an essay about using alternative methods to help battle my cancers. And Dad has been my best student. The hardest part was getting him to use the Bidet adapter. He’s Old School and thought that using it was gay. But, he did it and now he contentedly uses it regularly for optimum health.
/forums/topic/inexpesive-cancer-cures-and-other-miracle-cures-verses-the-golden-goose/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Gentlemen, thank you so much for such a warm welcome! And for extending that welcome to my dad as well. He is not up to speed with tech related things, but is very much a part of the philosophy of MGTOW. Has been going through his own realizations, in parallel to my own and the materials I watched and shared with him, the last 2 months.

We are both waking up. Looking back. Re-evaluating and seeing the harsh truths of the manipulations that took place. The loss in time, health, well being and resources.

I cannot think of any area that is more pertinent to men, in the time that we live in, than MGTOW. This body of work is just incredible.

I’m not even sure how I stumbled on it. Was a fluke more than anything. But once I caught wind of what was being disseminated, it’s been a continual process of learning and awakening.

I’m proud to be here, and to be apart of something that actually makes a difference in men’s lives. Stardusk’s recent video made mention of this…[paraphrasing]”that for some men, this information is literally a matter of life or death.”

I wish to give sincere thanks to everyone who took the time to write:

Nerevar, Freeman98, MG-ɹǝʍoʇ, Fermat, Solomon’s Wisdom, Wally, Bayerische Motoren, M52, Old Sage, Tuneout, Truthseeker82, BlacqueJacque Shellacque, joetech, The Manipulated Man.

Thank you guys, it feels good to be welcomed!

Very grateful to be here. I look forward to exchanging ideas and growing together.

To all my Brothers in MGTOW!

-Stentorian

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

To Solomon’s Wisdom:

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Welcome to The Source.

I did not catch the reference to the Matrix right away. But it slowly dawned on me! Thank you for the welcome. I could not but help notice your avatar. I also enjoy American Muscle Cars. Most notably the ones from the 70s. Although the Dodge Challenger, modern day is looking pretty damn good!

Don’t get me wrong. If someone offered me a Beamer. It’s not like I’d give the keys back.

But the American Muscle Car is one of the greatest things to have ever emerged.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Greetings The Manipulated Man! Thank you for the welcome and for sharing some of your own story. I relate to so much of that. I also a musician.

I read through a good portion of the article you linked. Brilliant stuff. Definitely on the same page with the points you raise and methodology.

My mother is a narcissist. I wonder if perhaps your mother, given that she seems to have set everyone against one another, may also be the same? Do you know if she was ever formally diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder? ( Just re-read what you wrote, and you used the term character assassination. That is a key tactic in a narcissist tool box. That one I have learned to spot.)

I am finding that there are many narcissists in my family. And it not an easy process, because sometimes they can take years or decades to reveal themselves. I like to think that I am getting better at spotting them, but it is no easy task. A narcissist can fool psychiatrists. In other words, trained professionals in the mental health field.

Good people, kind and caring, are easy targets for a narcissist. I have learned the hard way. Which come to think of it, seems to be the only way learning happens.

So places like MGTOW, where the wisdom of those who have gone before, can potentially reach and save others from getting screwed, is priceless.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

“No good deed goes unpunished.”

This is one of life’s painful ironies. Your dad sounds like a very wise man.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

But, my dad and I have been best friends for the past thirty years. We have had wonderful times together. We are both musicians and have performed together throughout the USA.

My dad was the one who taught me to play guitar. We never performed together, as you and your dad did. That is just amazing. Both the years you guys spent together, the bond. And even music played and performed. I can relate to a lot of the things you wrote.

My hat’s off to you sir, for your struggles and wins with your health. You are a warrior. Pure and simple.

It is a great pleasure to meet like minded individuals. To be sure.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Stentorian wrote:

Do you know if she was ever formally diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Mom was too paranoid, opinionated, and braggadocios to go to therapy.

In fact, when she got ownership of the house and all of her cash prizes, she never had to leave the house.

And Her god has always been the TV.

Stentorian wrote:

My mother is a narcissist. I wonder if perhaps your mother, given that she seems to have set everyone against one another, may also be the same?

Yes.

But, we are MGTOWs now and our definition of a woman’s Narcissism is different than what the Therapy Industry is using it for.

This website has helped me to understand that Woman’s Narcissism is essentially something that is “Hard Wired” as a biological necessity for the survival of the species. AWALT.
And it is one of the reasons that women can never really love us.

So, besides the normal amount of Woman’s Narcissism, Mom has an extra helping of “Crazy Town.”

From what I know about the DSM-IV, which is more than I care to admit, I would classify Mom as the type of “Nut” who has “Borderline Personality Disorder.”
Her ability to manipulate others is frightening.
I am still not immune to her lies.

My Brother who has an advanced degree on the subject of mixed Nuts claims that she is “Bi-Polar.”

Note: “Nuts” is the word that Therapists use to describe their patients when they are alone with trusted peers. Yes, “head shrinking” is an emotionally dirty job.

Here are some great quotes about women that were made by MGTOWs who replied in another thread I started:

Swimcat wrote:

… ” Men want one thing from every women. Women want everything from one man.”

Russky wrote:

”From time to time, God reincarnates women’s souls into swarms of locust – pesky simple insects who consume everything in their path and move to the next field until they’re dead. They’re perfect for this specific role.”

Prostratic wrote:

I’ve learned the hard way about women’s true nature. They are incapable of loyalty or empathy.

blade wrote:

The enemy that comes with a smile on her face like a hit man. Getting you to fall into a false sense of security yet all is been planned 6 months or more before the break up.

It is a matrix program that has been uploaded in them all.

jack reacher wrote:

broads are frauds.

I think it is hardwired in them to be deceitful and manipulative. A survival instinct they have learned or cultivated because they are weaker than men, and therefore need to rely on indirect manipulative tactics. Including using men/the state, against other men, in order to get their inherently selfish needs met.

This is the true female nature unchecked… they are not nation builders, they are nation destroyers. They are not instinctively nurturing

The Manipulated Man wrote:

…spite, depravity, and pure viciousness … are the hidden aspects of Woman’s Nature.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Mom was too paranoid, opinionated, and braggadocios to go to therapy

Same with mine. Like all narcissists. She believes there is nothing wrong with her, and sees therapy as beneath her. Which further hints at her sense of entitlement.

I do not regard any form of therapy as beneath me. If anything, I would be the first to admit that having been in therapy, was a crucial step in my recovery process. But you could not get a narcissist to come down from their pedestal, to accept such help as it would mean that they are imperfect, which they cannot accept.

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Yes.

But, we are MGTOWs now and our definition of a woman’s Narcissism is different than what the Therapy Industry is using it for.

This website has helped me to understand that Woman’s Narcissism is essentially something that is “Hard Wired” as a biological necessity for the survival of the species. AWALT.
And it is one of the reasons that women can never really love us.

So, besides the normal amount of Woman’s Narcissism, Mom has an extra helping of “Crazy Town.”

From what I know about the DSM-IV, which is more than I care to admit, I would classify Mom as the type of “Nut” who has “Borderline Personality Disorder.”
Her ability to manipulate others is frightening.
I am still not immune to her lies.

My Brother who has an advanced degree on the subject of mixed Nuts claims that she is “Bi-Polar.”

Note: “Nuts” is the word that Therapists use to describe their patients when they are alone with trusted peers. Yes, “head shrinking” is an emotionally dirty job.

Here are some great quotes about women that were made by MGTOWs who replied in another thread I started:

I read a post you shared about a woman whom you were involved with professionally and intimately. Wow. That was quite something. Around 2012-2013, I was involved with a really attractive chic. She had done some modeling, and was really high on herself. I never trusted her from the beginning, and that really helped to protect me. But she also brought crazy out. And was a total f~~~ing lunatic. Mood swings like you would not believe. Temper tantrums. The works. You mentioned Borderline Personality Disorder and BiPolar. I believe this chic at least one of these, if not both. Really attractive, and the urge is there to f~~~ her brains out. But the roller coaster that I was on, while with her, was a form of low grade insanity.

I have yet to meet a better than average looking female, who did not turn out to be bat s~~~ crazy. Even the average looking females, can still be totally off the reservation. And crazy does a really good job of hiding itself, at least for a good period of time.

That is awesome that you got help from your friend who put you in contact with his lawyer, and that you did not go for her bait with the make up sex. Wisdom prevailed.

The more I read and learn, the more I see that perhaps it is just as you stated. That narcissism is hardwired into the female brain. Apart from a clinical NPD diagnosis.

Great article by the way, and thank you for sharing your experiences with the domestic abuse machine. I had no idea it was such a well tuned scheme. Real eye opener.

Appreciate the quotes you provided as well. All of them are of course true. Without exception. I have slowly arrived at very similar conclusions.

I see it with the females in my family. Extended family. Through friends and co-workers. Women wear masks. And learn to play certain roles. They get so good at these roles, that they can even fool themselves into believing it as truth. For this reason, they pass lie detector tests. Because when you believe something completely. It fools and deceives others.

This to me, seems like the great scheme that women use. They have been rehearsing one part. Or perhaps a handful of parts. Of key roles. And their other gift, is spotting who would fall for their performances. That was a word you used to describe that female, as she had an acting background. But even without any formal training. Women learn this form of pretense. And use their beauty as a front. End result being, men get duped.

That was a terrible thing to have to go through. I would hate to sit there, frozen, unable to act, as some insane bitch manipulated law enforcement and made false accusation. Good for you, in getting away from that entire thing.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

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