Hello, time to introduce myself

[Elefthero_P0uliParticipant 6]

Greetings friends and Happy Easter Holidays.
My name is Nikos, i am 29 years old from Greece. I found Mgtow.com about a year ago, and although my mindset was on the same path it was more on the blue pill side; i didn’t have access to all the information needed to open my eyes to all these schemes women pull to make you do whatever they want.

My growing up years were not exactly the best economically speaking.I had 6-7 neighborhood friends and we were playing soccer (i am using usa term, we call it football here) every afternoon, hide and seek at summers, doing pranks on neighbors etc etc. Great times, i miss them. Nowdays all kids are on their smartphones-tablets facebooking, they don’t enjoy their carefree years, although they do get more and easier sex since all c~~~s are spreading their legs so easy and at a very young age.
When i reached the age of 13 i was old enough to start helping with the family business since we were and still operate 14 hours/day, 358 days/year. When i was finishing school i would go to the business so my father would go eat and get some sleep, and after 4 hours he would come back so i would go home do homework. Weekends i would play with friends until 12 at noon, then eat and go to work at 13:00 until 19:00.

When school finished (18 years old) my number of girlfriends was… 0 Excellent! I did have a couple of crushes but they were all into older guys. I got into College, and i swear the very first day, a girl made the first move and approached me, asking for my number.I started blushing but managed to spell the digits correct and that was it. She left and i still remember my sweaty hands. Right here i would like to tell you that i am an Introvert, i do not talk much but if you hit some of my interests which are not many i simply cannot shut up.
Also being an introvert i don’t like going out alot, i hate it when people force me to go to places because i know i will have to listen to people i don’t like talking about things i dont like (and if you’ve taken the red pill it gets way worse).
Anyway back to that sweet woman who got my number. After i finished with college sign up i had 2 weeks of free time so i went back to my home town (about 35.000 people). After 2 days maybe 3? i dont remember, a text came from her asking me to meet up for coffee, my heart start beating like crazy from anxiety, she was the first woman to show interest on me and i had 0 experience, i didnt know what to answer, even though the answer was simple: i couldnt right now because i am 200 kilometers away. I did calm down, eventually, and said exactly that and i would be back in 10 days approximately. Days passed and it was time to go back to college. She saw me in a hall somewhere, didn’t say something, nor did i, but same afternoon she sent me another text asking to meet for coffee, maybe give me some notes if i needed (she was one year older).Little did i know being an introvert has some big problems, specially being a virgin girlfriendless guy. I PANICKED, i wrote back a lame excuse and i even missed the next day so she would not see me. I actually missed 2 days more after that…
I eventually went back and i was scared s~~~less for her, i was hoping she would not notice me somewhere.
I did see her a couple of times in the next 2 days but the texts had stopped, she never came to me to say Hi or whatever else. I actually felt relief, and no she was not ugly nor i am not gay. After a week or so i saw her kissing with some other guy and felt… useless. I could be that guy, kissing her, maybe f~~~ing her? (ofcourse f~~~ing her… but those were my thoughts back then). The end with her.

I went to visit my good, divorced uncle who stayed and worked at the town my college was at, and he asked me how i am doing, if i needed any money and how am i doing with girls. My uncle, i found later, was a big womanizer at his younger years, f~~~ed alot of women, married or not, and eventually that lead him to the divorce. He must had noticed that i was doing bad on that department since i had nothing to say about women so the next day in the afternoon his doorbell rang and inside came a blond goddess. You clearly understand, but my thoughts were that it was his young girlfriend or something. She said hi to him, a kiss on the cheek, then turns to me and says <Geia sou Niko> (Hi Nick, in greek). I couldn’t speak, i instantly became red like a beetroot, i am lucky i survived without having a stroke. My uncle was laughing, he said goodbye and i’ll be back in an hour.
He left me alone with her. F~~~, what is going on, what am i going to do, what the f~~~ is going on were my thoughts, my brain must had reached 100% activity, in fact it must had overloaded.
She came and sat next to me, put her hand on my shoulder and told me to go and take a shower. I obeyed, mostly to get away, scared. I even locked the bathroom. a few minutes passed and i was still dressed inside the bathroom not knowing what to do, trying to find an escape. Then she knocked and told me to hurry up, finish the shower and get out, that she won’t bite me. I got in the shower, little Nikos standing up ofcourse, and after 5 minutes give or take i eventually got out. I go to the living room and there she is, standing on the sofa smiling at me. There was activity “down there” so i panicked and hurried to sit in a chair so she would not notice (like hell she wouldn’t). She stands up, comes slowly at me, sits on my legs and starts asking me where i am from, how that place looks like and very fast about having a girlfriend, ofcourse, i said i don’t have any and her next words and reaction was: well you can pretend i am your girlfriend while putting her hand on my thigh. She undressed and there she was, my first, live naked woman. little Nikos was about to have a stroke. she pulls my sweatpants down along with the underwear and i was beat red from embarrassment of being naked infront of a woman. She could tell ofcourse that i was a virgin, i am sure the uncle had told her aswell, so she pulled a condom and carefull put it on, then reached forward and climbed on me and sat on my dick. It didn’t take long, in fact you can’t even call it short,haha, and i came. She smiled, gave me a kiss on the cheek, saying how sweet i am told me to get the condom off and throw it away and off she went to take a shower. I was in heaven… my first sex experience, she came out, got dressed hugged me, another kiss on the cheek and told me goodbye.

After that i had more self confidence. To keep it abit short during my 4 years in college i made 4 relationships with the longest one being 4 months. the first one broke up during the summer break, she fell in love with someone else, typical. the second c~~~ broke up with me because i didn’t have enough money to go out 3-4 times a week, i caught the third one kissing with another guy, her response was “we’re just friends” … and the last one was cheating aswell… after that i focused on finishing the exams and passing some classes i had failed before, all in all finish college.

College finished and after a year it was time for my Army duties (it is mandatory to spend 9 months doing army training)
In short it was the 9 most useless months of my life, doing chores everyday, cleaning toilets, watching the camp from outposts etc etc… I did get to fire with a gun though, G3A3 . felt awesome. We are not allowed to buy weapons in Greece unless its for hunting. In fact its illegal to shoot someone who gets in your house and threatens you. He will most likely walk free and you will spend years in courts as to why you shot at him. If he gets to live, if not, you’re f~~~ed… Go Figure…

After Army i desided to go back in my home town and work the family business with my brother, share the profits. Since we were 2, we worked, and still do, 7 hours each, 358 days/year. Business doing great, me and my bro are managing it better than my father, and we even managed to double the income since the days of my father.

First small red pill moment incoming.
I’d like to say at this stage that i Never liked having children.No red pill reasons, cost analysis, alimony and stuff, i simply cant stand their yelling and attitude. I did think about marrying at some point later but no serious thoughts.

Until. Until i got invited on that specific wedding. A high school classmate (woman) was about to get married and she sent me an invitation. She was my first crush. and she had ofcourse turned me down back then. I did not want to go but 3 of my good friends practically begged me to go with them so i said what the hell, all my old high school class will probably be there so why not meet them. I park the car, and as i walk to the church i see them (the 3 friends) and say lets go. Sure i hadn’t lost touch with ALL the people from my class, i still talked with about a third of the women since they stayed at the home town and we would walk on eachother or at the supermarket, but the rest of them… oh my god… i was speechless. half of them were fat, and the rest were ugly. sure 2-3 out of 15? were still hot, but i was there looking at that sight and couldn’t believe it. They were 26 years old for f~~~s sake… The bride was pregnant so that sucker had to marry her…
I did not have fun on that wedding, i felt depressed, i was forcing myself to smile when i spoke to them, while saying to myself, oh maria look at you, you were so hot, why did you get 25 kilos.. Eventually that night ended but the memory remained vivid for atleast a week. I was thinking, if they changed so much untill their 26th year how ugly would they be when they got 36 or even worse 46… F~~~… and that was my first dosage of red pill (unkowingly).

After some time passed i stopped thinking about it, and a couple of years passed with me being focused only on my and my brothers business, not much free time to do many things so ofcourse no women. In fact my last relationship was during college. and no, like i said, i am not gay. during all these years i simply relied on porn and i believe you call it bootycall (when you call the hooker at your place).

At the age of 27 the family started asking the typical questions,when will you get a girlfriend, when are you getting married, kids, make me a grandchild so i can play with it (mother) -i didn’t even have a f~~~ing girlfriend yet she was already dreaming about her grandchildren- you are reaching 30, you need to start planning your life and all these f~~~ed up things. So these thoughts were being forced in my head. Yet my mind was counterthinking, why marry and be with ONE woman for the rest of my life, what if she gets fat, what if she gets ugly, too many possible horrible if’s .So i typed one day, about a year ago, out of the blue, men are stupid to get married. Eventually i got to Mgtow.com and it was a link to a section about married people stating how f~~~ed up their marriage was, how their hot wives had become couch potatoes and all those horrible things. My eyes opened. What i was looking for, the validation of my thoughts was there, in front of my eyes, with examples from real people. References to The Manipulated Man, The Red Pill, MgToW. A true life lesson encyclopedia. I was reading like a mad man. Reddit,MgToW.com (i have read most of the posts in all categories), the Manipulated Man from Esther Vilar and anything that came in front of my screen either from google search or links on posts, youtube videos, Sandman and many more.

Now, from what most of you guys say i have to 100% agree with being Stealth. when my eyes opened and the more i was reading the more exited i became, i started saying some of those things out loud during guy talks. I saw that they were looking at me like i was an alien. They liked some of them, the ideas, like yea it would be awesome if i hang out whenever i want with you guys, BUT (their own words)she would be mad and it would be inappropriate if i did that unless my wife came together or when i told them that no matter how hot their current girlfriend is eventually she will get old (i avoided wrinkled,shaggy t~~~,moody witch) their responce was that’s how life is supposed to be. Well f~~~ no! nothing is “supposed to be” I and only I choose what is “supposed to be”. it’s like their submission to pussy,family and marriage culture, is hardcoded in their DNA. So after a couple of months of trying to give red pill lessons i saw that they looked at me differently so i simply stopped. not stopped caring, they are good friends, but i stopped talking about my philosophy (our philosophy) and i only observe. The worse part is when i have to put up with all these manginas and bitches during work.And it happens EVERY day… But i simply can’t afford not to. not yet atleast

There is only one woman that gets a pass on what she says and that is my mother. Don’t crucify me, but… she is my mother, at least she has accepted that i will not marry and will not have kids, so she must have given up. she hasn’t said anything for a couple of months, since the time i used womens shaming tactics against her.
She had started about marriage again so i told her i will only marry a woman that is richer than me, that works and makes more money than me and when she gives birth to our baby i will quit my work to stay at home daddy. My own mother gave me that look, the look of “disgust”, she raised her eyebrows and after a few seconds told me it’s not a womans job to work so you can stay at home and pretend you raise a child. Her exact words. She did not understand how many things she revealed with just one sentence, ofc i stopped, i dont wan’t to fight with her, and she did understand that i am not going to change so she must have dropped that hole subject.
Now, who i fear the most is my little Brother who is getting pressured to get married by f~~~ing everyone in the family. mother, uncles, uncles of mother, F~~~… i give him red pill dosages and he is doing good. at least he sees marriage as a worthless traditional custom, but he tells me he would like a child later in life and stuff like that and he scares me… Talk for another time though because this introduction became like an essay and not only i must have tired you but i am tired myself.

[Anonymous 18]

Welcome Mr. Nikos. You are at the ideal age to adapt to the idealogy of mgtow as well as start training your mind for the long-haul.

I am close to your age and while 95% of time things seem clear as day, the remaining 5% I ponder about the utility of marriage/relationships/NAWALT. That is natural and in-built. It is just society has outpaced biology. But with continual efforts on our community and sharing, it is a matter of time before biology catches up.

Your story about you losing your virginity is pretty awesome. Your uncle is epic.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

After a week or so i saw her kissing with some other guy and felt… useless.

You should have felt useless but for the reasons of being so hard on yourself and going through hell all the while she was getting f~~~ed by this or some other guy.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

she raised her eyebrows and after a few seconds told me it’s not a womans job to work so you can stay at home and pretend you raise a child.

And they say raising a child is the toughest job on the planet. lolzzzz-zzzz

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Excellent read and welcome!

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[joetechParticipant]

Quite a story. Since you’re Greek I won’t argue ANY of what you say. My brother’s ex is Greek. But, no one ever said that you can’t have relations with women if you’re MGTOW. Just be careful…and remember…your mother is a female and probably looks to you for grandkids. Do you have brothers and sisters? Probably yes. Let THEM provide that. Go your own way and don’t fall into traps. Make sure you use a condom and get a vasectomy unless you want to support a child that will never know you for the next 20 odd years. I’ve seen and heard bad things about Greeks over the years, and you’re surrounded by them. The rules have changed and you have to protect yourself. Sorry if I come off as a bit harsh, but life is unforgiving. Welcome to the forums, and yeah, I know, football is soccer. Think of life as a soccer game. If she scores one goal against you, she can win for life.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Welcome Nikos,

Many Thanks for your fine Introduction.

The descriptions of your Red Pills and your journey to on the MGTOW road is like the classical tales of your magnificent ancestors.

Feel free to add more details about yourself in this introduction thread in the reply box below. For example, answer the following questions:

Work situation and career aspirations?

Living situation?

Fun stuff that you do?

I would like to know your thoughts on the Golden Dawn party which I am a big fan of. They have done some impressive things.

Nevertheless, most Nationalist groups are pushing for increasing their population and promoting marriage. They seldom address the divorce rape and exploitation of men, Woman’s hypergamy, Woman’s Narcissism, and Women’s Nature. And they seem to consider men as a disposable resource which is the opposite of MGTOW.

Is the Golden Dawn different?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome, brother. I really enjoy your intro. Your uncle seemed to be an awesome person.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

Eventually that night ended but the memory remained vivid for atleast a week. I was thinking, if they changed so much untill their 26th year how ugly would they be when they got 36 or even worse 46… F~~~… and that was my first dosage of red pill (unkowingly).

Women age like milk, men age like wine. Especially single men who keep their hardwork for themselves.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

like i said, i am not gay

Allright. But for the record, there’s nothing wrong for being gay. Just saying lol

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

At the age of 27 the family started asking the typical questions,when will you get a girlfriend, when are you getting married, kids, make me a grandchild so i can play with it (mother) -i didn’t even have a f~~~ing girlfriend yet she was already dreaming about her grandchildren- you are reaching 30,

Yeah this can be hard. But you can always be hard back to them by saying ‘I wont’ and refuse to explain. I found that easier for me.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

Well f~~~ no! nothing is “supposed to be” I and only I choose what is “supposed to be”.

Yes!

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

There is only one woman that gets a pass on what she says and that is my mother. Don’t crucify me, but… she is my mother, at least she has accepted that i will not marry and will not have kids, so she must have given up. she hasn’t said anything for a couple of months, since the time i used womens shaming tactics against her.

Pretty much the same with my mom. She’s now in a position where she can’t no longer control me, because I’m a man on my own and can finance myself. It’s very liberating. Everytime she tried to push me into some thing, she often stop herself and accept beforehand that she won’t get it.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

Your intro is a very interesting one.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

Nowdays all kids are on their smartphones-tablets facebooking, they don’t enjoy their carefree years,

I agree. I was at a park yesterday and almost all the children I saw were overweight and finding it hard to run.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

i am an Introvert, i do not talk much but if you hit some of my interests which are not many i simply cannot shut up.
Also being an introvert i don’t like going out alot, i hate it when people force me to go to places because i know i will have to listen to people i don’t like talking about things i dont like (and if you’ve taken the red pill it gets way worse).

That makes 2 of us.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

To keep it abit short during my 4 years in college i made 4 relationships with the longest one being 4 months. the first one broke up during the summer break, she fell in love with someone else, typical. the second c~~~ broke up with me because i didn’t have enough money to go out 3-4 times a week, i caught the third one kissing with another guy, her response was “we’re just friends” … and the last one was cheating aswell…

AWALT

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

I was thinking, if they changed so much untill their 26th year how ugly would they be when they got 36 or even worse 46… F~~~…

Women have a very limited time to shine.
Men age like wine but women age like milk.

Elefthero_P0uli wrote:

it’s like their submission to pussy,family and marriage culture, is hardcoded in their DNA. So after a couple of months of trying to give red pill lessons i saw that they looked at me differently so i simply stopped. not stopped caring, they are good friends, but i stopped talking about my philosophy (our philosophy) and i only observe.

I know, right. The blue pill is a strong thing. It’s hard to overcome as it’s something that’s been fed to us since birth. Only a few of us get lucky enough to wake up.
Being stealthy about your red pill awakening and lifestyle is the best option.
In most cases, it’s an utter waste of time trying to “preach” to people and wake them up from their blue pill slumber.

Welcome to the forums, bro.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Welcome Nikos,

Many Thanks for your fine Introduction.

The descriptions of your Red Pills and your journey to on the MGTOW road is like the classical tales of your magnificent ancestors.

Feel free to add more details about yourself in this introduction thread in the reply box below. For example, answer the following questions:

Work situation and career aspirations?

Living situation?

Fun stuff that you do?

I would like to know your thoughts on the Golden Dawn party which I am a big fan of. They have done some impressive things.

Nevertheless, most Nationalist groups are pushing for increasing their population and promoting marriage. They seldom address the divorce rape and exploitation of men, Woman’s hypergamy, Woman’s Narcissism, and Women’s Nature. And they seem to consider men as a disposable resource which is the opposite of MGTOW.

Is the Golden Dawn different?

You f~~~ing Troll MM. Trying to get this guy to say he’s part of a Right Wing organisation like “Golden Dawn”

How much more of your trolling Bulls~~~ are we going to have to put with on this site before you get kicked.

F~~~ off you Infiltrator.

Just F~~~ off already.

It's Time to get Wise

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greg Honda wrote:

……he’s part of a Right Wing organisation like “Golden Dawn”…..

GH brings up something important:
Don’t give out any information or Ideas that will provide our Great Enemy with details to help them find you.

I just wanted to hear the opinions and observations from someone “out in the field,” especially from another MGTOW, not just videos posted on YouTube.

And Greeks in the USA are too occupied on the Blue Pill Plantation, they seem clueless about the Golden Dawn.

Greg Honda,

You are out of line again.

The place to air your grievances with another member is in the Forums, like MGTOW Central, or a private message, NOT a Newcomer’s First Introduction.

Character assassinating me here is TROLLING. And you are picking a picking a fight with me here on Nikos’ Introduction.

If you are sore about the end of the Blood Bath that you joined in on in my “Idiocracy” post, then bring it on over there, not in someone’s Introduction.

MGTOW brothers, here is an example of what happened in my “Idiocracy” post:

GH, since the fighting in the “Idiocracy” post has stopped, and you would look like you are even more Butt Hurt by posting there now, there is always the fresh blood of that s~~~ post called “Tribunal” that Math started in MGTOW Central:

MGTOW brothers, here is an example of what happened in Math’s “Tribunal:”

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

I would like to know your thoughts on the Golden Dawn party which I am a big fan of. They have done some impressive things.

This is like asking new members from the US “I have heard good things about the KKK. I would like to know your thoughts. ”

Apologies to Nikos, but this troll MM needs to f~~~ off trying to suck new members into talking about neo Nazi fascist bulls~~~. That is not what we are about.
Keep that s~~~ out of here.

Obviously his apology was worthless, as he simply spread his BS victim fight to new members introduction pages.

Again, sorry to Nikos, you don’t deserve to have your introduction be used for trolling by a divisive poster who feels it is the safest place for him to spread his BS.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

…………….This is like asking new members from the US “I have heard good things about the KKK. I would like to know your thoughts ”….

Oops!

Good point.

But, to help another MGTOW understand my point of view from the front lines, I would simply reply that I don’t have ANY experience dealing with the KKK.
What I do know is that they are Toxic, Bad News, and should be avoided at all costs.
The stories told amongst racially aware Whites in the North are that 50% of the KKK are FBI Informants, and the other 50% are Mexican bikers.

Anyway, the Gynocracy has thrown opened up the gates to Greece which has allowed an Invasion of millions of Foreign Free Loaders.
That is bad for the indigenous Greeks, even Greek MGTOWs.

How bad?

No one outside Greece really knows.
The Fake News pays no attention to the situation.
And the internet has too many S~~~ Posts that are all about misinformation.

The only Greeks getting a message out to the USA and appearing to be doing anything to deal with what is happing in their Homeland is the Golden Dawn.
I respect their b~~~~.

It is a masculine trait for a man to defend himself, HIS honor, HIS home, and HIS property.

The popularity of the idea of Trump’s wall is an example of the regard for this masculine trait.

As I have clearly stated in my first reply here, my position is that Nationalist groups are not dealing with “Woman’s Nature.”
They are mostly “White Knights” which is a Cucked takeover of Masculine Energy.
They seem to promote a veiled form of Gynocentrism, and they are forcing men onto the Plantation.
And they are opposed to MGTOWs.

I am MGTOW and only promote MGTOW’s interests.

Your Character Assignation of me PRR is unacceptable.

Your viscous attack of a fellow MGTOW member does not belong on a Newcomer’s Introduction.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

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