Hello there!

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

For over a year now, I’ve been reading articles and watching videos regarding MGTOW. To be completely honest, I have no memory of exactly how I came across this movement. My best guess is that I found you through my research regarding the effects of abuse on males.

Let me clarify: I am a childhood abuse survivor, I’m a male, and I’m completely insane. I have several mental disorders, Schizoid Personality Disorder being one of the most prominent. Ever since I was aware of what had occurred to me, I have been trying to find out just what parts of my personality are a result of having been repeatedly raped by my cousin -let’s call her Margaret-, living my early childhood years in a bad neighborhood, and spending the rest of my childhood being bullied and continued being raped by Margaret, and which parts of my personality were “genuine”, or “the real me”.

Before harshly waking up to the reality that there is no such thing as “real me” and “other me”, I was obsessed with finding myself, finding a “cure” for my madness, and finding justice. Now I understand that there’s only me… me, my personality, my thoughts, and my actions.

It was probably the “finding justice” bit that made me take the Red Pill. It didn’t take me long to realize that male victims are ignored at best, laughed at or even vilified at worst by… well, let’s call them the mainstream, but you probably know who I’m talking about here. I learned that, in order to have a chance at being heard, I had to go underground. That’s probably what led me to the MRM, and eventually to MGTOW.

In terms of going my own way, however, I must say that I have been doing so for most of my life. I rarely form any emotional connections with anyone, particularly women, and I’ll let you take a wild guess as to why that might be. I do have a few close friends, whom I cherish, and whom have pulled my sorry ass back from the brink on more than one occasion.

I’ve always sort of done whatever I pleased; even as a kid on my free time (I guess you can say I was a Boy Going His Own Way, hahaha). I’ve chosen a career path and a way of working that fits me perfectly. No office politics, no nonsense, no discrimination of any kind, just results. It’s often a cold, pragmatic system, but that works just fine for a cold, pragmatic individual.

Now I’ve finally achieved my dream, and have become a published author. I’ve written a book called “The Viper’s Nest”, and it talks about my experiences through my childhood and early teen years, told from my perspective. It has a rather unusual writing style, blending terrifying situations, dark comedy, and gallows humor, all in one bizarre mixture. If you’re interested, you can find it here:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Vipers-Nest-Struggle-Isolation-ebook/dp/B00SASKN0G

Anyway, I think this has been going on for a long, long time, so I won’t drag my introduction any longer. Suffice it to say, that while I have always seen the MGTOW way of life as “just the logical thing to do”, it’s good to know that there’s a name for it, that others have embraced it, and that I’m not crazy for doing so, too.

 

(I’m just crazy for everything else)

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Welcome Michael,
Reding your intro, several things occurred to me. The first was that you write well, so it was no surprise to get to the end of it and find that you’re a pro. You may think you are insane, and I am not the one to decide that for certain. But I am certain that what happened to you is insane, and that Margaret is at least insane, and likely worse. Your reactions to ole Marg do not sound insane to me. They seem well reasoned and predictable.

Someone may have hung those diagnoses on you, and they may be accurate, but they shouldn’t be based on your reasoning skills., which seem to be working very well. Your perceptions of the mainstream media and the gynocentrism it spews forth, are congruent with the now documented perceptions of at least 5000 other members of this site, who’ve not been diagnosed with anything as far as I know. Things really are as you have perceived them.

Your intro also mentioned that you’ve had a few friends. Now that you’re member here, know that you have many. There are doctors, attorneys, engineers, musicians etc who are active, successful, productive, and now safe and un-parasitized by the same sort of culprit that you are recovering from. We have all escaped and recovered, and you will as well.

Welcome to mgtow…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome aboard. You are among good men here.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[…Spectator 1165]

Hi Michael: we are all out of our right minds here. some of us out of their mind smart, others not so much. it’s all good man. welcome and hve fun!

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Thank you for your warm welcome, everyone,

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one noticing a pattern of gynocentrism in the media, in fact I would go so far as to say they promote outright misandry at times. That much I know is not just paranoid thought patterns. Thank you for your compliment, and saying that I’m a pro. You’re also right when you say Margaret is insane. Then again, so am I, according to the pros. Regarding my reasoning skills, I have a short, yet funny story to tell you (because, well, that’s part of what I do for a living):

I remember I have been visiting psychologists ever since I was a child, around 6 years old is as far back as I can recall. I would talk to the psychologist, maybe do some drawings, the usual stuff for a child in that situation, I guess. The psychologist would obviously never say anything regarding his/her findings to me, but he/she would talk to my parents. Being the curious little guy that I am, I would always ask them when we left the building:

“What did the doctor tell you?” I would inquire.

“Oh, you know… that you’re very smart!” My parents would answer, after a brief moment of silence.

“Yahoo!” I would think to myself.

That went on with every psychologist I visited, until about a year ago, once I was already an adult, and the psychiatrist (not psychologist… not entirely) said to me:

“Well, Michael. It has become very apparent to me that you’re a highly intelligent individual…” He started.

“Hahahaha! Yeah, I get that a lot!” I interrupted.

“…but you’re also completely f~~~ing nuts.” He said.

“Yahoo!” I exclaimed, much to the psychiatrist astonishment, followed by laughter from both of us.

Finally, I’m glad I have the potential to find a lot of new friends here. Friendship, I have found, is one of the most valuable things in this world. Hopefully, I have just stumbled across a treasure chest, filled with good, smart jewels, even if some are a little rough around the edges.

[Anonymous 42]

Come on in and sit right down; in here you’re not the only nut in town! They say I’m nuts, but I’m busting their guts! Another clown in town, so I’m not so lonely, stark raving mad, I guy like you I won’t be sad! Welcome to MGTOW, I’m MG-Tower:I’m please at your grand entrance!!!.

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Hahaha, thank you! You could probably make a living as an MC, I loved your rhymes!

[Anonymous 42]

Yea I can do lots of different things; jack of all trades, master of none!

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

You and I both, friend!

[BrianParticipant 87]

Glad you found your way here!

The “mainstream” sure does like to hang diagnoses on us.  I’ve been labeled as NPD/OPS: Narcissistic Personality Disorder with Oversize Penis Syndrom, though part of that was from the ex-wife; the other is self-diagnosis.

Honestly, I don’t doubt for a second the establishment makes a point of pinning diagnoses on someone who has experienced what you did with intent to isolate you and keep you from sharing your experiences.  Your reaction to what happened sounds perfectly rational.  And we know whimmin tend to be hypersexual and obsessed with any deviant sexual behavior they can think of, which is why Cosmo can consistently turn a profit.  The establishment knows it too, and if more guys like you share your stories, they’re in deep s~~~.  Eventually it’s going to once again be the general consensus amongs men: Whimmin are f~~~ing nuts!

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Hahahaha! For a couple of minutes I was trying to figure out what OPS stood for. Due to the nature of my college, I had to spend quite some time among narcissists and psychopaths. Believe it or not, psychopaths are actually a lot easier to get along with, although they are extremely unreliable, as are narcissists. I’ve been pretty much forced to work alongside them on several projects, with disastrous effects every single time.

In the end, I’ve chosen to simply change to a virtual modality, so that I can continue my courses without so much… fuss, and the occasional “I f~~~ed my cousin and got her pregnant, so I told her to get an abortion… illegal, of course, so as to not undergo any paperwork… she heartily agreed, of course…” story.

Frankly, I have no idea whether or not you fit the NPD diagnosis your ex-wife labeled you as having (does she even know what it means?), but I do agree that the establishment is handing over diagnoses like they are bloody candy. It’s not necessarily a conscious attempt at keeping me and other males in a state of isolation -I, for one, am isolated enough, and I like it that way-; they’ll do it to just about everyone and anyone, because it turns a profit.

I think that the establishment is not the only issue, but just about everyone else, to some extent. I’ve shared my story, that’s true, and a few other male survivors have, too. The thing is, few people are willing to listen. My publisher and I are having a very hard time trying to sell the book, and I’m sure that the problem is that most people are simply not interested.

They want what they have always watched/read/heard: little girls being victimized by the evil penis, told in a utterly heartwrenching way.

Girls/women being abused by other women: eh… okay, we’ll allow it, as long as you turn it into a half-documentary, half-porno movie, and make sure to say that men are powerful and cannot be raped by women, not even in a fantasy.

Boys/men being abused by other men: yes for boys, men… not that much.

Boys/men being abused by a woman: anathema! Blasphemy! Avert your eyes, cover your ears! This simply doesn’t happen! (unless it’s a fiction movie, then it happens, and it’s hilarious) (or it’s Debra Lafave, then we must shout “lucky boy” and spare the perpetrator jail time, because she’s too beautiful, and she’ll end up appearing in a half-documentary, half-porno movie if we throw her in there)

Sad, but true. My publisher and I have been through this uphill battle for almost a month now, and there appears to be no ending on sight. Still, out of respect for the boy I once was, I will continue to fight.

[…Spectator 1165]

Yo Brian K wassup man?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hi Michael. Welcome to MGTOW. Very happy to have you here. Great on getting yourself published! That’s fantastic.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Thank you!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PS. I just caught my disastrous spelling of “great” and changed it from “grate”.

Not a very good way to     great    greet a published author, but I hope you will find it as hilarious as I just did.

Hope to read more from you.

Smiles.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Michael CrowParticipant 16]

Hahaha, yes I noticed that, but I didn’t want to say anything.

Don’t worry about it, we all make mistakes. Thank you for your warm welcome.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

A crazy diagnosis.  Among this crowd to funny. Its seems we all here like to diagnose ourselves. Is that normal? Our own opinion tends to be the one we value most anyways. I have read some deep reasoning and logic coming from the advice and comments of this crazy bunch. welcome to mgtow forum. Where the most intelligent loonies live.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Sanity can be boring at times, which is why people often times tend to avoid it.

[Anonymous 42]

Sanity? Where? I’ve been looking, real hard too. I can’t find any! The whole is crazy, except for the liars!

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

That’s funny, self diagnosed OPS – Oversized Penis Syndrome.  lol Brian K

I think that I have the Intermittent version of that problem.  Mine only gets uncontrollably huge when it’s mad at me.  I think it’s called David Banner’s Disease!

Welcome Michael Crow.  You are among friends here.

B

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

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