Hello from UK

[Sparticus66Participant 508]

Well here I am in my 50s. Divorced.  In debt.  Fighting to see my sons.  But I’m free.  It’s still worth it.  I’d rather be penniless than enslaved and depressed. 
But I have a gear job.  And a nice place to live on my own.  I have never been fitter thanks to the gym and not having a fridge full of crap bought by wifey and her mother.

My first girlfriend.  Younger than me.  Both still at school.  She was a bit plump.  I was gold to her.  Took her to London and treated her very well.  Never had sex but was planning to.  She went on summer holiday with her family.  I really missed her for those 2 weeks.  She came back to announce she had got off with an older man on holiday and what is more she had brought him back and was living with her and her parents! He was unemployed and continued to remain so. 
I at least had the b~~~~ to say no reconciliation in the future.  If only I’d sworn off relations~~~s  then when I was 17!How could she trade nice intelligent me for an unemployed loser?
Update from FB.  She’s a beach whale with  kids and now living with a woman.

Next girlfriend I lost my virginity to.  Great sex.  Fell in love. Previous girlfriend begged to have me back after finding out about new girlfriend.  Err no way.  First introduction to the syndrome of women wanting you back when you are f~~~ing someone else.  This girlfriend got a job as I continued to study for good job.  In her crap job she started getting really c~~~y and dumped me.  I was really upset.  Also my mother died shortly after we split and ex did not send a card or anything eventhough she met my mother quite a bit.  How could someone be so heartless?
Update.  Beached whale. Second marriage. 

At college.  Lovely looking g/f. Very much in love.  She went on trip to Europe for a week just after we started going out and she got off with another student there. Ignored red flag.  She dumped me after I failed my exams a year later.  Not a backward glance.  In fact I let her have my college room for the summer as I was elsewhere.  She left me some money but not the whole amount.  When I asked why she explained she had made ‘deductions’ for meals she had cooked for us.  I broke contact thinking that her terrible behaviour would haunt her.  Now I know they have no guilt.
Update.  Saw her pic on FB.  Moon face and obvious whale body.  I can just guess how p~~~ed off her slim husband must be

Wife
Married even though had great misgivings that my priest assured me was natural nerves.  Basically married because of my religious belief.  Went into debt for her big wedding and never solvent since.  Moved her mother in. Had two kids.  Sex stopped after second conceived.  Went 8 years without sex.  Yes.  8 years.  She put on massive amounts of weight. She would actually say she knew I was a believer in God and that would mean I’d never stray.  I used to try to find chemicals on the Internet to kill my libido.  No joke.  I then had an affair.  She found out.  We limped on for a few years.  Then I left her but not to be with other woman as she was married.  Still sorting out debts and I know I will be financially wounded for rest of my life. But I’m free of her and her mother and my ambition for my boys is to introduce them to the truth

The affair
I’m not proud of it but I was so lonely in my marriage.  She used to complain about her husband but get this : He worked long hours and did the cooking.  He was a great cook.  His only problem is he had an affair a decade ago and my god he was never allowed to forget it.
The affair was not full sex.  But no BJs from her.  Basically me going down on her.  Trust me to find a sex less affair after a sex less marriage! It lasted for years.  She’d go on  family holidays and never text.  I’d be missing her horribly.  She could totally cut me off when I was with her. This went on for 4 years.  She covered her tracks so well.
Then an amazing development.  She rang me upset one morning  and asked if I’d marry her.  I said yes why?  It transpired her husband was having an affair!. Thus commenced the most outrageous double standards! How could he do such a thing?
One result is she was now happy to be f~~~ed and sex was really good. But we’d go out and have dinner. I’d have two hours of constant talking about the husband in order to get to the sex part at the end of the evening. She tried to tolerate his affair whilst living with him and busting his b~~~~ about doing openly what she was doing secretly! She said he should not text his lover but I remember thinking he was more like me, more romantic than his wife/ my lover.
Anyway he left and she started to try to get me to move cities and jobs to be with her and her kids. She was quite blatant about needing a man to provide. Meanwhile I’d taken notes to remind myself of all her s~~~ty comments and double standards. Quite an archive in the end. I’d note on my phone how I was left feeling after a meet or series of texts. For example, she’s good looking (8) and men hit on her. But shed also flirt like f~~~ in front if a man was about. I was also taking small doses of red pill. The whole f~~~ing charade was being exposed. My life would have been so much better if I’d f~~~ed and dumped every girl I went out with.
Now I’m in my 50s but I am healthy. I don’t have cancer. I don’t have any conditions. I’m lucky. I love my job. I love doing all the things women would scoff at. The last g/F would say ‘ why are you always trying to improve yourself?’ as if it was a weakness. I don’t want to hate anyone and I don’t. But I don’t BS myself about women anymore. I’ll never marry a woman. I’ll never live with a woman. And the funny thing is eventhough I go to the gym and my testosterone is good, I so rarely find women attractive for more than a few glances these days. I remember that the shirt that says ‘however beautiful she is, someone, somewhere, is sick of her s~~~

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome to MGTOW! Freedom from living in misery is worth any price!

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome from the other side of the Atlantic. Women seem to be the same everywhere. You are to be commended for at least trying but the game is rigged and the “house” wins every time. Don’t play that game.

[The SavedParticipant 101]

Welcome Sparticus66.
It sounds like you’re doing well despite the circumstances.

I think it’s great that you are MGTOW. My father recently remarried for a THIRD time (he’s in his mid-60’s). I could not be more disappointed in him and we seldom talk. A shame, really.

"A man's feelings are inconvenient to a woman's needs".

[Anonymous 25]

Welcome. Always good to see more brits going their own way. taking our island back one man at a time.

If you’re having custody issues consider going to families need fathers meetings, probably best advice you will get and it’s free. Keep Cafcass out of it, they lie and always take the females side

[Buller100Participant 2189]

That’s the uk, I saw a picture of my ex like yours balloon , her arms like those swimming wings.

It’s even worse now in uk . Young guys of 18 only seem to have fat cows, at least 40 years ago they were slim and not as bad as now.

It’s just money they are so open about it.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

http://www.fnf.org.uk

Welcome fellow Brit. Well I’m Irish but live in UK.

Good advice about FNF. Drop them a email if you need advice re kids.

I would no more have a woman in my life than KM would start allowing females to sign up here.

Just think, if we could get every 15yo guy to see what the game is …. well we’d have a country full of potential millionaires.

Glad you found us and your story is a beacon for others navigating dangerous waters.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10917]

Welcome brother and hello from the US.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Sparticus66Participant 508]

Thanks guys. I will look up Fnf for the child access issues

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Welcome Sparticus. Great Caesar’s F~~~ you’ve had a time of it. Glad to have you on board.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 18]

Sparticus66 wrote:

I’ll never marry a woman. I’ll never live with a woman. And the funny thing is eventhough I go to the gym and my testosterone is good, I so rarely find women attractive for more than a few glances these days.

It’s not the age man. I am 2 decades younger than you and red pill does that to you. The ulterior motives of women are too clear.

[Red_Pill_SouljaParticipant 221]

Welcome. Great introduction!

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Welcome! I’m about the same age as you, and I could not be happier having discovered MGTOW now, rather than later.

Cheers!

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Anonymous wrote:

Sparticus66 wrote:

I’ll never marry a woman. I’ll never live with a woman. And the funny thing is eventhough I go to the gym and my testosterone is good, I so rarely find women attractive for more than a few glances these days.

It’s not the age man. I am 2 decades younger than you and red pill does that to you. The ulterior motives of women are too clear.

Same here. 32 and no longer giving a f~~~.

Welcome, brother!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Nerevar wrote:

iLearn wrote:

Sparticus66 wrote:

I’ll never marry a woman. I’ll never live with a woman. And the funny thing is eventhough I go to the gym and my testosterone is good, I so rarely find women attractive for more than a few glances these days.

It’s not the age man. I am 2 decades younger than you and red pill does that to you. The ulterior motives of women are too clear.

Same here. 32 and no longer giving a f~~~.

Welcome, brother!

Im a decade younger than you and I get it. At fist it was just, “huh..oh..yeah..i guess that makes sense”. Now it’s “Holy s~~~, I ACTUALLY GET IT!” I no longer need red pills. I just get it.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

I live in the UK near London and i am 30 years of age. And feminism is a major problem here. I have not been to the USA so i cant compare and say which is worse. But make no mistake about it. Most British women (and that includes ethnic British women too so its not a racial thing) are not marriage or relationship material. They are good for pump and dump. I tend to be an introvert so i dont really go out and pick up girls. I tried that for a brief period in my early 20s. Recently i decided to try some escorts and i enjoyed the no hassle sex. But i would go broke if i relied on that too often. The idea is to keep myself celibate and focus on developing myself and enjoying my life. Enjoy some pussy every now and then if it comes effortlessly, but no chasing after it and no spending excessively for it either.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello S66,

“Spartacus” is at the top of my list of favorite cable TV series, right next to “The Wire.”

Appreciate reading every word of your Introduction.

For me, it is better than a Jane Austin story.
A man’s Truth is better than fantasy.

Nevertheless, your well written story dropped off the bits about how “the affair” ended. To get the movie deal, you should write a proper ending.
It can be added whenever you want in the reply box below in this Introduction.

I look forward to reading your posts in the Forum.

Sparticus66 wrote:

I remember that the shirt that says ‘however beautiful she is, someone, somewhere, is sick of her s~~~

It is good to have words and ideas to process what has been happening in a man’s life. MGTOW is a great place to explore ideas and develop a plan for the future. The Archives are very helpful.

Sparticus66 wrote:

I’d rather be penniless than enslaved and depressed.

Most of us here believe that the pain of dealing with the “Red Pill” is much better than living in “Blue Pill Hell.”

Sparticus66 wrote:

The affair…

When she was pressuring you to move, did she call you her “Soul Mate” or was she more cerebral while promoting the supposed health, emotional, and financial benefits of the pleasure of her company?

Sparticus66 wrote:

She rang me upset one morning and asked if I’d marry her. I said yes why?

Did you go through with it and marry her?

Are you still seeing her?

Sparticus66 wrote:

But shed also flirt like f~~~ in front if a man was about. I was also taking small doses of red pill. The whole f~~~ing charade was being exposed.

How did you finally get free and clear of that manipulative narcissistic woman (AWALT)?

If you are still involved with her, then what are you learning about her, yourself, and the Red Pill world?

Finally, what happens when you share your Red Pill knowledge with others in the UK?

Here is a poster that sort of illustrates what happens when I tell men about MGTOW wisdom, especially Blue Men:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome to MGTOW
I found MGTOW in my mid 50s. It’s never to late to start a better path.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Sparticus66Participant 508]

Hi manipulated male.
Thank you so much for your response.
No. I never married her. I told her that I’d never marry anyone again. She said that was just plain rude to say while I was seeing her. She said I was a commitment phobe. I layed out how I applied myself to my studies and established a professional career where I’d never missed a days work. That I eat well and work out. That I’m a very committed man. Just not to a bad deal.

She used to use the ‘soul mate’ Disney theme but that facade gave way to ‘we both need to cut our costs’. Did I mention she was made redundant and has not worked properly in years?!
She even let slip once that ‘once we move in together’ it would not be natural to keep up such an active sex life. Ha ha. I know how that s~~~ goes.
I said I’d never move in with any woman again having got free.
She said I cheat because I’m great at arguing. I called it evidence and logic.
Sex with her was hard to give up.
Interesting that you refer to her as a narcissist. She always referred to her husband as that. She wouid certainly talk about herself and her past love life all the time. Nowadays I’m spinning plates for sex with different women but as I get older my high sex drive is diminishing and what a relief that is.
Every woman I meet my radar picks up the BS within seconds. I was so unaware before but I was never taught the truth as a boy and that’s where manginas are made.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Reading your words, your perspective, and how you deal with stuff in your life is a real pleasure Sparticus66. The similarities to me is fascinating and quite fun.

Sparticus66 wrote:

Sex with her was hard to give up.

I have repeatedly had the same problem and I understand the dilemma.

Sparticus66 wrote:

Interesting that you refer to her as a narcissist. She always referred to her husband as that…

A woman will use all sorts of words and emotions to deflect attention away from her real behavior and intentions.

My favorite Psychologist advised his students to “Follow the Feet.”

The MGTOW wisdom about “Woman’s Nature” is profound. The Manosphere has helped me to understand that Woman’s Narcissism is “Hard Wired” as a biological necessity for the survival of the species.

Like Briffault’s Law and Hypergamy, Woman’s Narcissism is a fundamental pillar of every woman’s reality. AWALT.

Sparticus66 wrote:

I was so unaware before but I was never taught the truth as a boy and that’s where manginas are made.

Me too.

Men are living in culturally deprived/ depraved times.

What remains of Men’s Culture is attacked, defiled, excluded, and outlawed.

Modern music, art, media, multicultural enrichment, and everything else is fundamentally Gynocentric.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

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