Helicopter disaster

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Hey guys, wasn’t sure where to put this.. so I chose here 🙂

Do you guys think that the trend of Helicopter Parents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent) in America may be causing the Male/Female etc situation to get worse? Where Men and Women are both being taught to be more and more dependent?

I ask, because it struck me that girls get coddled the most… Since we now have a nation of incredibly coddled girls… what do you think? How bad do you think the affect is and do you have any stories about this? Do you think this is partly responsible for the excesses of Third Wave Feminism?

IMO it has only exacerbated the problem, making truly insane Third Wave radical feminists pop up like weeds, and is robbing boys of their ability to see clearly.

Peace.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

Its making kids not think for themselves and just take what they’re told as gospel. So the boys will grow up doing what theyre told and the girls will grow up believing that theyre eternal victims and men are to blame for everything..

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[NeversaydieParticipant 51]

My aunt home schooled two kids. This is an extreme case…

The 23 year old girl finally got her first job at McDonalds so she can buy an x-box one. She is a virgin, dresses and looks like an 11 year old and is afraid to leave the house.

The 16 year old boy did go to public school for a few years but didn’t like it. He plays facebook games all day between his ridiculously easy online school portal. He is spineless and weak.

My uncle by Marriage is a sweater vest wearing dumpy bald effeminate retired school teacher. My aunt manipulated him into not giving a f~~~ anymore. He is kinda MGTOW… he spends his days at local community theater productions.

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

Yes OP I completely agree with your assessment. If you are never given independence then you cannot learn to be independent. I can also say as a single father and especially with my oldest having downs syndrome that I personally probably restrict my childrens independence too much but I am also aware of it and try to make a conscious effort to allow them independence where possible.

But I definitely would not say that I am a helicopter parent I hate those people. I think what most parents forget or do not think about until their kids are adults is that is what you are trying to raise is an independent and self sufficient adult you are not just taking care of a child.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[Anonymous 11]

I roamed the woods and streets with slingshots, guns, M-80s and played with gasoline, fire, electricity, and mercury as my toys.
I asked my Mom in her later years why she let me play with gasoline fires, and she told me it looked to her like I knew what I was doing.

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Anonymous wrote:

I roamed the woods and streets with slingshots, guns, M-80s and played with gasoline, fire, electricity, and mercury as my toys.
I asked my Mom in her later years why she let me play with gasoline fires, and she told me it looked to her like I knew what I was doing.

That sounds like a snapshot of MY childhood. 😉 I remember the bottle of mercury very well, and used to play making switches and etc with it, made a few ‘bobbing’ toys and blah de blah. My mom was more of the ‘as long as you don’t kill yourself or get arrested, do whatever you want’ variety.

Yeah.. I suppose I am trying to get a better bead on just how bad the effect might be on the current generation. I have received a lot of comments like “Jesus, I couldn’t do that” when I work 80 – 100 hour weeks, or when I go to a festival and work 20 hour days twice in a row, and a 16 hour day after that. I’ve started to realize.. those things which I was taught as a child.. the value of work, the importance of self motivation while working.. the importance of finishing what you start, and the value of independence..let alone knowing your limits and providing yourself with what you need to break past them.. all of that.. that it is lacking more in modern folks than it has been for a long time.

I mean.. wtf? I’m at a loss. I have been a f~~~ up more than once, but I always carry on. persistence, intelligence and hard work get you there. I have gotten the “But you’re a guy” when I am talking to women about work and my successes and failures while trying to advise them, and I sometimes bite my tongue. I NEVER get the gender crap from a woman who knows how to work.. she knows that persistence and intelligence are the keys to success and doesn’t have to fall back on the ‘Im a woman’ excuse.. because she KNOWS how it works now.

I just don’t think many women, and fewer men than before, know how this works.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

I taught classrooms full of the results of helicopter parenting while I was a post-secondary instructor.  What a nightmare!  There was hardly anything I could do right with those twerps around.

 

Unfortunately, my institution adopted the doctrine of “student as customer”, so guess who really got to call the shots in my courses?  I wasn’t me.

 

It’s good that I quit when I did nearly 13 years ago.  If I’d stayed on, I would likely have become an alcoholic.

 

[peterfaParticipant 833]

These are our future?

[Anonymous 11]

@QWV: You should have seen the local media circus when a boy brought 2ml of Mercury at a nearby town’s elementary school.  It was a damn helicopter parent circus.  I still remember one mother who was nearly in tears and freaking.  I’m talking HAZMAT teams the whole 9 yards.  The boy was made out to be a miscreant, and he never even opened the vial.  It got more of a response and media coverage than Fukushima.

When I was in elementary school, we used to charge a nickel to the boys to let them look at the pornography we would bring to the baseball dugout at recess.  We’d bring in 50 cents to a dollar a day.  This lasted for about two weeks until some little girl tattled on us.  The teacher lightly scolded us and took our porn.  Our parents were never informed.  Who knows what they would do to some kids doing that today.

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