Having a child = the death blow

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

Learn from other men’s mistakes. Once you get a girl pregnant, you’re finished. I have been lucky enough to survive. Don’t listen to a girl who says she is on the pill or whatever else to stop pregnancy. Whether she is or isn’t, it’s not a risk you want to take. Don’t trust that you are sterile or that you can just pull out or wear a condom. I have heard the cries of men who have made the mistake, “NEVER have kids!”. I saw the color leave their bodies. If you keep pushing your luck, you will make the mistake. Whatever you do, never, eeeeeeeeeever have kids!

Don't care

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

Whatever you do, never, eeeeeeeeeever have kids!

There are still MGTOW who wish to have children. However, they will not marry or cohabitate with a women to achieve this. I will most likely adopt, but I have considered surrogacy myself. One of my goals in life is to be a father. I believe this is an intrinsic, biological prerogative that MOST men have. We want to pass our knowledge down to the next generation. I was adopted, so now I’ve been blessed to have good, godly parents. I want to afford a child (son) the same opportunity. Too many kids are left astray in the CPS hell hole… All because we are MGTOW doesn’t mean we don’t want to be fathers

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Onetruemisfit wrote:

Whatever you do, never, eeeeeeeeeever have kids!

There are still MGTOW who wish to have children. However, they will not marry or cohabitate with a women to achieve this. I will most likely adopt, but I have considered surrogacy myself. One of my goals in life is to be a father. I believe this is an intrinsic, biological prerogative that MOST men have. We want to pass our knowledge down to the next generation. I was adopted, so now I’ve been blessed to have good, godly parents. I want to afford a child (son) the same opportunity. Too many kids are left astray in the CPS hell hole… All because we are MGTOW doesn’t mean we don’t want to be fathers

Well, this is just my opinion and I am looking for like minded individuals. Adoption is another issue. The context is getting a woman pregnant.

Don't care

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

OneTrueMisfit wrote:

The context is getting a woman pregnant.

Well avoid that like the plague. lol Btw, I respect your opinion albeit I don’t necessary agree with it. Some of us MGTOW want kids. The issue is the modern day slore has made this a troubling proposition. You knocking her up is akin to playing Russian roulette. Too much risk and not enough benefits. In business we would call this a bad investment!

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[joetechParticipant]

I think the crux of what he is saying is not to get trapped into fatherhood. A woman that traps a man is planning to use that child as a paycheck to the detriment of the father. I’ve seen it and read about it too many times to not understand how devastating it can be. Look up Burt Reynolds and Loni Anderson…he got reamed, and recently had to auction off a bunch of personal items to finally settle up. A bad mistake with a woman can render you a slave for life. If a rich actor can’t get a fair deal with an expensive lawyer, what chance does the average guy have?

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

I call having kids shooting the fatal nut blast. Death sentence for your WALLET!

[bladeParticipant]

Children are used by woman like a gun . The government are the bullets . Who gives a s~~~ about the money when it comes to kids . Woman do i don’t . I care about my kids . F~~~ money . It is bliss not having anything . One good thing a woman and government have taught me . Welfare of kids should always be paramount .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

A warning to young guys it will hurt you financially but the pain you could never imagine is losing your kids .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Emperor HeracliusParticipant 317]

I am a younger red piller, but I have no intent to ever have children. Who wants to raise a child in this gyrocentric, PC dominated society where they are brainwashed in the school system and will grow up in a declining culture and country? Not to mention the massive financial burden that raising a kid costs in this day in age, with the surging price of education, health care, and basic necessities. A dog and friends are a good substitute for companionship.

"Admit no woman to the imperial councils. Be accessible to no one. Share with few your most intimate plans."

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Everyone hear I agree with your sentiments. I plan on adopting a son, or doing surrogacy. I know the risks associated with dealing with the modern women.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 14]

I got a chick pregnant TWICE who said she was on the pill. Never ever f’n trust em. And oh boy, I was dumb AF.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

blade wrote:

A warning to young guys it will hurt you financially but the pain you could never imagine is losing your kids .

No pain is greater then still keeping your child and marriage, but your child is brainwash to turn against you.

That is what happen to my uncle and it boils my blood.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Some of us MGTOW want kids.

In the U.S. Men dont have kids, they just provide for them via your paycheck. Kids belong to women and the state. Stop kidding yourself thinking you have a piece of meat in the soup. I want a Ferrari…..

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Vasectomy = Freedom.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

There are still MGTOW who wish to have children.

Irrelevant.

men can’t have children. Not any more. They are always her children. They are the village’s children. They are the state’s children. They are NEVER his children.

All men get is the bill. That’s still definitely theirs.

[narwhalParticipant]

I think it’s important to make the distinction that kids are not the problem, it’s government laws and women’s abuse of the laws that are the problem. And kids are not for every man either.

sidecar wrote:

Irrelevant.
men can’t have children. Not any more. They are always her children. They are the village’s children. They are the state’s children. They are NEVER his children.

That is true in way too many cases, and partially true in everything else. But it you couldn’t deny that my kids are mine. Yes, I cannot go see them whenever I wish, but there are times when I have sole legal access to them. The state dictates their education, but that does not mean that I cannot educate my kids as well. So on and so on. I get what you’re saying, and I understand that in many ways my situation is ‘lucky’, but is not always a dire as you make it sound.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Stop kidding yourself thinking you have a piece of meat in the soup. I want a Ferrari…..

Whatever, BRO… I want a son. How does that make me delusional? Your metaphor doesn’t even apply in my situation. There is no soup and “my meat” isn’t in it. I’m going to most likely adopt, so WTF are you talking about? Have you even read my posts? You can be a father and a MGTOW, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. This is really starting to sound like an echo chamber guys, come on. Also a Ferrari is a material possession, not a life. I don’t really see the connection… A life has more significance than a f~~~ing car.

sidecar wrote:

Men can’t have children. Not any more. They are always her children.

Again, for the sake of my sanity you can be a father without a women! FFS you can adopt! I WAS ADOPTED!!! Please read my posts.

As I stated before I know the risks associated with the modern women. If there isn’t even a women in the equation, then I fail to see how I can’t be a MGTOW and a father. I don’t plan on getting married, so this is really a non issue as far as I’m concerned. No Women = No Problem

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Whatever, BRO… I want a son. How does that make me delusional? Your metaphor doesn’t even apply in my situation. There is no soup and “my meat” isn’t in it. I’m going to most likely adopt, so WTF are you talking about?

These are just opinion posts so there’s no need to take them personal, if you want to proceed with having kids knowing the risk, go right ahead, I can care less, but you’ve been warned. It’s very very difficult for a single man to adopt, if the reward is worth it to you go ahead, leave the emotions to the women.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

if you want to proceed with having kids knowing the risk, go right ahead,

Yeah I know the risks. Also when I’m done with grad school I’ll have plenty of $ to afford a kid. I’m not taking it personally. I just think some people need to read the posts.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

narwhal wrote:

Yes, I cannot go see them whenever I wish, but there are times when I have sole legal access to them.

Only at the pleasure and discretion of the state. which means they are not actually yours. Not really.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

FFS you can adopt!

Yes. You can. But see above. Even then you are still only permitted to play the role of father so long as the state deigns to allow it.

That is not fatherhood.

I know the risks associated with the modern women.

Women aren’t the issue here. The capricious gynocentric state that caters to them at the expense of men is. The women themselves are irrelevant.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Yeah I know the risks. Also when I’m done with grad school I’ll have plenty of $ to afford a kid.

I truly understand where you’re coming from but you need to really do some research. I am hard pressed to think the state will let a non-married heterosexual male adopt a kid because of the social stigma’s placed onto men as parents. And going the traditional way will surely have you f~~~ed. Yes you will make good money but understand the more you make the more they take “for the best interest of the chiiiild” and give to the mother, so not only will you not see your kid because you will have to work extra to fulfill your ass raping obligations, but the kid will belong to the women with the state to back her unless you can prove on video she’s a crackhead whore, and even then they will only consider.

Gay’s are now pressing for surrogate parent rights which means they’re mens best shot at finally building families without the anchor of a women. If this becomes law you can than go to another country and pay a women to bring your kid to term and bring it back to the states (If you’re from the U.S.) and raise him/her on your own.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

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