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Ever since I been on MGTOW the interactions is that the women gets the best of us guys, And I am wondering, what are your success stories in using your intellect to get something that women had then screwed them over and just left victorious, Like how they must feel after a divorce settlement.
http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/crime/7-stunning-divorce-settlements-from-female-celebrities.html
something like this does put a smile in my face.
(also notice how its put into the “crime” section LMAO)Excellent topic. Welcome to the MGTOW forums by the way.
No, I never have because I don’t have malicious intent. Just not built that way.
I build and create websites too… but I don’t actually HACK them. I could, but never have.BUT! I have allowed women to think they were manipulating me and I have taken advantage of that. MANY times. And I don’t feel bad about it for a second. For example. I have a ring my father wore. I originally began wearing it on the 4th finger of my left hand after he died. I noticed women would take MORE of an interest in me when I wore it. It was remarkable. They would actually hit on me and be aggressive about it so I just went with it. Not my problem she thinks it’s a wedding ring and she’s more attracted to me because of it. I can’t help that women are home wreckers.
One day, I was in bed with a woman I hadn’t known for more than an evening and she says “so where’s your wife?”. I said “WHAT?” . “You’re wearing a wedding ring, so where’s your wife?”….. like she was catching me cheating or something.
ME: “Wait, you thought I was MARRIED and you had sex with me anyway? GET OUT.”
It’s the perfect out. I love it.
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Perhaps the only extent of me “manipulating women” was if they were into me and I wasn’t into them. I would still have sex with her or flirt like I was interested. Quite seriously, and genuinely, the majority of my efforts and focus was spent dodging THEIR bullets. Not the other way around. I’ve never done anything like saying “hello I’m a doctor” just to bang a gold-digger or some such trick.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I build and create websites too… but I don’t actually HACK them. I could, but never have.
this website is one of the best designed websites. what else did you use besides Html5, CSS3 , JS, Jquery and Bootstrap???
i am learning PHP right now alsoThey would actually hit on me and be aggressive about it so I just went with it. Not my problem she thinks it’s a wedding ring and she’s more attracted to me because of it. I can’t help that women are home wreckers.
Women like to have sex to brake men down its knowing they can get you do to things for them that makes them go crazy. for instance a women would like to f~~~ the pope just to brag that she made him brake his commitment with god or something.
and ive noticed having a girlfriend makes you more attractive to women also, and I knew that a marriage ring would boost your sexyness(learned it from the Black Philip show) also. but you need to have the ring line because women sometimes do look for it.
loved how you turned the whole thing on her at the end and made her feel like the piece of s~~~ she is by acting all shocked like “Omg you think I would have sex while i was married get out I am appalled.
loved how you turned the whole thing on her at the end and made her feel like the piece of s~~~ she is by acting all shocked like “Omg you think I would have sex while i was married get out I am appalled.
It’s too easy to turn the tables on them and flip the script. Just reverse the sexes in any situation and then mirror it back to them. They wouldn’t tolerate it, so why should you? Your best defense really.
this website is one of the best designed websites. what else did you use besides Html5, CSS3 , JS, Jquery and Bootstrap???
i am learning PHP right now alsoWell that’s all you really need. + some creativity and you’ll be on your way!
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3I’ve never done anything like saying “hello I’m a doctor” just to bang a gold-digger or some such trick.
Well, it’s all fair game though, if you think about it. It’s no different than a woman painting her face and putting on makeup, while accentuating her boobs with a push up bra. And that’s the thing, a woman is deceiving you and using manipulation techniques even BEFORE you engage with them. So I cannot really fault guys who lie about their occupation and put on a character, because it’s still only in retaliation to what the female is already doing.
If you shag a 10/10 but without makeup, she turns out to be a say, 7/10, that’s something you didn’t sign up for. It’s the same thing if the guy claimed to be a doctor but turns out to be a janitor.
Damn right @Tungus Lingus.
Well, it’s all fair game though, if you think about it.
I totally agree with that . It’s quite literally a WAR.
Major oversimplification here, but …..Men want sex without putting out favors / resources / time / effort / attention / money..
Women want favors / resources / time / effort / attention / money …. without without putting out sex.You write a woman an alimony check while she’s f~~~ing your friend for free and she thinks she has “won”.
Some PUA figures out how to be the type of guy she will f~~~ for free and he thinks HE “won”.
They can’t knock themselves out. I never played that way. While I do apply a little “game” from time to time to amuse myself I don’t actually lie small like “Im a doctor” ….. I will GROSSLY LIE TO WOMEN and over exaggerate it to the point of being funny — and she will even KNOW I’m lying.
“So where do you work”.
(translation: how much money do you make)“I am an astronaut. (points to the sky) You see that? That’s my office.”
“Really?”
“No”.
That actually worked a few times.
Make up something totally ridiculous and be as creative and dial it up as far as you want.
“British Intelligence. Don’t tell anyone.”If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I’ve got an expensive watch, and car, so when I’m asked what do I do for a living, I say that I’m a bum, I’m retired and don’t work, they lap it up. They know I’m kidding, they WANT you to dick them around, and I love giving them the dick. It’s so easy now, it’s almost unfair, but I’ll take it, GOD knows I’ve paid it forward.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I just can’t anymore. I’m so so tired and drained by them. There is absolutely no woman I could summon the enthusiasm for ….. and that’s sad because I do miss the sword fight ….. god I miss that ….
But no ….. even when they approach … I find my heart sinks and I frantically look for an exit.
I just can’t anymore. I’m so so tired and drained by them. There is absolutely no woman I could summon the enthusiasm for ….. and that’s sad because I do miss the sword fight ….. god I miss that …. But no ….. even when they approach … I find my heart sinks and I frantically look for an exit.
Really. I’m very sorry to read that.
But I know the feeling.I don’t think men and women are supposed to get along – or like each other. It’s as if “the creator” made them anatomically compatible ONLY…… where the door of desire swings only one way, Then, as a joke on humans, he created cats and dogs and put them on the same planet together as a sort of parallel . I imagine he would be looking down on it all, and laughing his sick ass off. He’s not without a sense of humor. That’s for sure.
(Speaking purely metaphorically)
I still enjoy a little sparring from time to time. Like a tennis match. I may even serve something when I probably shouldn’t because it can be fun. Maybe Im just not entirely exhausted yet. They seem to get off on it too.
I have noticed about 1 in 300 women are “nice”. The rest all seem to have these………. claws…….. (i.e bitchy resting face) and I would just rather not. So I get where you’re coming from.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Not really. Never been in that position, nor would I feel good about manipulating anyone, male or female.
I’ve been manipulated in the past to my financial ruin. Betraying trust is in my top 5 list of things that I do not f~~~ing tolerate. I spent too much of my youth being a sucker and going out of my way to help other people to my own detriment. I’m done with that s~~~ for good.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.I like to be up front about my disinterest. When I catch a glance, I do not pay it back. I just put on my “what the f~~~ was that supposed to be” face, and smile while looking down and shaking my head. I used to make a point of wearing my old wedding ring when going out with friends so that I didn’t have to deal with women approaching and/or s~~~ tests. Turned out to be counter productive, because it was like using live bait. Won’t do that any more. Don’t get me wrong…I love to look at the female form, the curves, etc. But I realize that the beautiful exterior is hollow inside, an empty husk. So I keep my mouth shut and give them no words.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
I’ve never done anything like saying “hello I’m a doctor” just to bang a gold-digger or some such trick.
Trust me, being a doctor is not the wealth profile it used to be. Sure we get six figures out of residency, but most of us are going to be eyeb~~~~ in debt until our 50s. Graduate Med School @ 29-30. Residency (making $20-30K/year) till 33-34. Then you have $500,000 in med school debt (with interest) to pay down over time…It’s nasty. I think NPs and PAs are going to be the new wealthy class. 100K and only 2 years to get a degree. Starting income 0K+. Goes above 200K in certain specialties.
I hate women doing it to me, so i wouldn’t do it to them, I would rather tell them in their face and be called a chauvinist pig.,,
“Not letting a woman manipulate you is the best way to manipulate a woman”
hate women doing it to me, so i wouldn’t do it to them, I would rather tell them in their face and be called a chauvinist pig.,,
“Not letting a woman manipulate you is the best way to manipulate a woman”
they do seem to like the thrill of the hunt by pussying us up. I am convinced are made to f~~~ us emotionally and mentally, Like they are programmed to ware us down and turn us into some sort of disposable workers for the greater cause of Serving them.
I haven’t actively sought revenge on a woman since my late teens and by “active revenge” I’m referring to the George Hayduke type stuff. Actively seeking revenge requires hate and hate means you still care. I no longer care. Women simply aren’t worth the effort.
That being said, I have no compunctions with passively allowing women to f~~~ up, fail, and otherwise screw themselves over. I’ll only give advice when specifically asked, I won’t repeat warnings, I won’t keep an “eye out”, I’ll “assume” that instructions, policies, and procedures are understood, and I’ll pretty much keep feeding them rope until they hang themselves. There’s no effort at all on my part. They dig their own holes all by themselves.
Returning to manipulation, a few years back I manipulated a woman in order to remove a troublesome employee from a client’s business. The entire process took a few months and the woman in question unknowingly played her part to perfection. I knew from the first that she would be receptive to certain gossip, I knew that she would eagerly spread what she never guessed was misinformation, and I knew how she would react and overreact to certain announcements and events. At the end of the process, the problem employee had been “fired for cause” while the woman in question resigned. All in all it was a win-win.
None of this happened because I’m some infallible Machiavellian mastermind. It occurred instead because the behavior of the woman in question could be predicted with as much certainty as the sun’s rising. She couldn’t help but do what she did.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I haven’t actively sought revenge on a woman since my late teens and by “active revenge” I’m referring to the George Hayduke type stuff. Actively seeking revenge requires hate and hate means you still care. I no longer care. Women simply aren’t worth the effort.
That being said, I have no compunctions with passively allowing women to f~~~ up, fail, and otherwise screw themselves over. I’ll only give advice when specifically asked, I won’t repeat warnings, I won’t keep an “eye out”, I’ll “assume” that instructions, policies, and procedures are understood, and I’ll pretty much keep feeding them rope until they hang themselves. There’s no effort at all on my part. They dig their own holes all by themselves.
Returning to manipulation, a few years back I manipulated a woman in order to remove a troublesome employee from a client’s business. The entire process took a few months and the woman in question unknowingly played her part to perfection. I knew from the first that she would be receptive to certain gossip, I knew that she would eagerly spread what she never guessed was misinformation, and I knew how she would react and overreact to certain announcements and events. At the end of the process, the problem employee had been “fired for cause” while the woman in question resigned. All in all it was a win-win.
None of this happened because I’m some infallible Machiavellian mastermind. It occurred instead because the behavior of the woman in question could be predicted with as much certainty as the sun’s rising. She couldn’t help but do what she did.Tell the story more stories of us mgtow winning is what we need laughing is medicine.
No. I’ve said enough already. I was complicit in tricking a man into committing an offense which led to his firing. The man in question needed to be fired, but he also understood the system well enough to “hack it” and prevent his being fired. He was “gaming” the system, so the system needed to be “gamed” in another way to reverse his efforts. Sometimes you must fight fire with fire.
I don’t know if what I did was exactly illegal, but it sure wasn’t ethical. That’s something that you’ll eventually understand about life; sometimes the ethical thing to do isn’t the right thing to do.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Well once in defence from a girl that almost got me labelled as a stalker. That was my fault for thinking I can play on their level just to see how they work. I now do my best to avoid resorting to that tactic.
The best way to avoid being manipulated in their first place, and this is something I learned on Stargate SG1 before joining mgtow when Daniel had a chance to prove If he can learn all that there is to the Goa’uld from his only son while not abusing the knowledge in the first place is to simply in Daniel words “Don’t play in the first place”.
I’ve had women in their 40s try to come after me, but not women my age. And the funny thing is, That in this small town, they tend not to play as much mind games, but to ask you straight up If you want to f~~~ If you look like you have a car and a big wallet. But other then that, I’ll just stay as far back as I can for now until I get my own place, Or not even at all.
Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.
I did save a guy from being manipulated even further once in high school.
Once when I was in the court yard, I saw a couple showing off their love to everyone around them, I got sick of watching that thinking that this is just some facade from a poor fool not knowing any better, that I made a joke about a double standard about how guys have to work and pay their way to get laid, while girls can just asked any random person on the street. And I used a girl named Riley as a example to explain that girls can easily get f~~~ed by two guys in the pussy and the ass at the same time at a party.
The boyfriend had half a mind to beat me up, But I told him that you go right ahead but will see my point later on If you haven’t already.
About two years later, he thanked me for the heads up, because within the two year slot, Riley got f~~~ed by two guys at a party, and that this isn’t the first time, LOL.
Then he asked me how did you know. I told him, it’s easy to see what is going on when you are not involved, and that true friends, would have told you from the get go, If they knew.
I was his enemy at the time, but I felt sorry for him.
Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.
Have you ever manipulated women for your own benefit?
Why bother?
If you give no f~~~s, sit back, and let them get on with things they’ll end up manipulating themselves.
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