Have women doomed civilization?

[KranitzParticipant 22]

These are just my ramblings, but I’m interested on everyone else’s input and thoughts!

Now, as I was thinking about my most recent ex, I am reminded about how much she seemed to have changed in a short amount of time. She want from a quiet, long haired, reasonable, sane, sweet girl, into a full blown tumblrina who claims she’s never going to have kids, and she is now a pansexual demifluid whatever.

She isn’t the first woman to wig out on me, but I’m determined to make her the last, however, that being said, part of me would still like a family and kids, and I regarded this girl as my last hope/chance. By her leaving, it has basically doomed me to a life of isolation, and has turned me into what the Chinese call a “bare branch”. My particular genetic makeup ends with me, while the world is flooded with violent idiots and rapists, with whom the lesser women of the world choose to reproduce with.

Now don’t get me wrong, I realize now how horrible the world is, and how cruel it is to bring anyone else into it. Maybe drag into is a better term. However, I am at an impasse, as my biological let alone emotional needs are not being met. Women refuse to come to the table, let alone compromise and commit, as my past relationships have shown me. I think this has lead in large part to my depression, as I have always felt alone, even at an early age, and have felt the need to have a partner.

However, modern women, and perhaps women throughout history, have been like this. They seem to choose the most powerful, violent, psychotic men to reproduce with. And all of history can’t be just filled with rape rape rape. Sorry ladies, if rape was occurring on that scale, there should have been some sort of uprising, and then possibly these violent men would have murdered their mates, and their genes wouldn’t have been passed on. Hell, 1% of china’s population can trace there roots back to Genghis khan, with the history books saying he raped and pillaged his way thru the country side, but really? He would have to have been able to stay hard 24/7, not sleep, and gone without food and water to have been able to sire that many offspring thru rape. I think it is however more likely, as with many tyrants in history, that women latched onto him and benefited from his conquests. His harem didn’t care if he raped some peasant girls, as long as his harem was taken care of and adorned with jewels and cater too.

I, perhaps like many of you, came to MGTOW after trial and error with the current state of relationships and courting, and found how empty, pointless, and toxic it is to men. How women can be happy and fulfilled in such an environment of casual hookups and one night stands is beyond me, and makes me question the nature of women.

I guess I’ll be sticking to my idealized, fictional women, because I have yet to meet a “real” women in the real world. I’m also not looking to cater to any woman’s sick rape fantasies, as that s~~~ is a major turn off for me, and suggests that that women is particularly f~~~ed in the head.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

The men are partly to blame – for selecting infantile stupid pretty dingbats to reproduce. Their meotiny (sp?) infantilism and stupidity spills over onto the rest of the genome.
But most of all I blame society and governments – for enabling and reinforcing destructive behavior in women

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

We’re all to blame. However that doesn’t mean we should get married. We MGTOW should be for the better and let these women go in a deep hole. I no longer want to be apart of the American culture.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Not just women, society has doomed civilization, and we are all unfortunately in our own way to blame for that.

Between “progressive” taxation which punishes those (mostly men) who work hard and get ahead by taking ever increasing portions of their money and giving it to those (mostly women) who don’t and gynocentric legal systems which crucify hard working men who marry society actively discourages those of intelligence and motivation from having children while actively encouraging and promoting retards to breed like rabbits

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Society is doomed and civilization is regressive. Cynics have been saying this for almost 2500 years. “Before kingdoms change, men must change.” Ultimately, we are to blame, gentlemen. We can’t be the superior sex and then shrug off responsibility. We are the superior, and it is up to us. Walk away, because there is no negotiating with terrorists. Make no mistake, that is what women and society are. I can’t count how many times I have been threatened with the law, locked up, withheld sex, assaulted, kicked out, yelled at, abused, lied to, and mistreated by women.  If you keep going back to that s~~~, *you* are the idiot. Walk the f~~~ away.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Yup. Fool me once- shame on you, fool me twice – shame on me

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[KranitzParticipant 22]

I have to agree with the rest of you, and especially Snake. the current state of Western Civilization is beyond Men’s ability and scope to fix. And since it seems that human nature changes at a slower-than glacial pace, who knows if or when humanity will ever develop a stable and long lasting permanent civilization. It’s a shame thou, that women would rather be entertained than loved, that Men give them civilization while they seemingly embrace primitive chaos.

Men built civilization up and gave it to women on a silver platter..and then Women showed them the door.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Cycle of Society

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 12]

Feminism and Left Wing ideology has doomed Western Civilization certainly. That said and as the cycle of society chart above shows when an ideology/ruling system gets to the point of gross stupidity which Feminism and Leftism has achieved then it starts to abuse it’s status and you reach revolution stage which is what MGTOW is.

The societies that are currently doing well are the Male dominated ones, China to name one although their women are crazy as well. The problem is Leftists have gone against nature, men are no longer leaders or heads of their own households, women are no longer having kids, sex is no longer difficult to find, food is cheap and in abundance, the weak are not just allowed to survive but also allowed to flourish.

 

[SteveParticipant 462]

RoyDal that’s a great graphic.

Can I ask: where do others see us right now on this cycle?

I’d say the majority of our society is still somewhere between Complacency and Bondage and Tyranny.

MGTOW guys are early revolutionists but sadly not indicative of the majority (they’ll catch up eventually).

[Anonymous 12]

Steve wrote:

RoyDal that’s a great graphic. Can I ask: where do others see us right now on this cycle? I’d say the majority of our society is still somewhere between Complacency and Bondage and Tyranny. MGTOW guys are early revolutionists but sadly not indicative of the majority (they’ll catch up eventually).

I would say some are complacent for sure. Mostly we are still in Bondage and Tyranny. Some of us already rebelling or moving close to it. You will never have everyone actively rebelling anyway, most revolutions are incited and run by a minority, but as long as that minority are willing to fight Tyranny then the complacent will always lose even though the complacent will always make up the majority.

They say rebellion/revolution only happens when the people have nothing left to lose. So it is in the Tyrants interest to keep the complacent happy enough with what they have and even happier as what the have becomes less, a steady erosion as we have seen in the West until it gets to a point where there is no one left alive from the generations previously that have a first hand memory of how good things once were.

 

 

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Yea I agree with Snake. We foolishly handed power over to the idiots, now they’re constantly implementing idiotic s~~~ and have become drunk off power. This was a huge monumental mistake by men, now we’ve got no choice but to walk away and check out from the very society we’ve contributed to, built, fought for etc. Like many of us has said here this s~~~ is totaled, f~~~ed and damaged beyond repair just let her burn!.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

We’re all to blame.

Speak for yourself.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

sidecar wrote:

CrazyCanuck wrote:

We’re all to blame.

Speak for yourself.

If you have ever dated a woman, paid for anything for a woman, lived with a woman, had sex with a woman, married a woman, had a kid with a woman – you are partly to blame. Only a man that has completed rejected society and women from the gate can say they had no part in this. Even sticking your dick in a woman and tossing her gives her the physical validation she is looking for. Did she pay you to f~~~ her? Then you are to blame for the rest of us brothers not only having it harder to get free sex, but for the ridiculous notion that we are to pay women for it.

[Anonymous 12]

treelville..miami wrote:

Yea I agree with Snake. We foolishly handed power over to the idiots, now they’re constantly implementing idiotic s~~~ and have become drunk off power. This was a huge monumental mistake by men, now we’ve got no choice but to walk away and check out from the very society we’ve contributed to, built, fought for etc. Like many of us has said here this s~~~ is totaled, f~~~ed and damaged beyond repair just let her burn!.

Sadly this is probably the best we can hope for. When it all comes crashing down then Men can start to rebuild. As for women and feminists in that event, they will be trying to seek out men more than ever to provide for them and keep them safe and it will be up to every man to keep them from every wrecking it again.

 

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Women didn’t need men let’s see how these women do after s~~~ flies over. I wouldn’t take these women if they begged me.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RennieParticipant]

Yes and it is beyond all earthly hope of recovery. Since the only way to put things right(while saving civilization) is to remove the hopelessly corrupt from this society and no one is willing to do it because it will involve doing unpleasant things. Therefore the only way is to let it all rot down and have these people die off in the mess they created

The ones old enough to influence things in the 1950s/60s, they’re the ones who let women get out of control and now the rest of us are paying for it. Should’ve crushed their rebellious behavior before it ever got a chance to grow.

Men gave women a good life and women showed their appreciation by throwing it on the floor and spitting on it. Basically they don’t deserve the good life at all.

[MyselfParticipant 353]

Steve wrote:

Can I ask: where do others see us right now on this cycle?

For society as a whole I think we are between “abundance” and “greed & moral decline”.  Wealth is still being generated at a huge rate.  We still have resources to keep the current system going for awhile. There are strong militaries that will ensure this basic system continues.  My personal feeling is that the transition from moral decline to complacency will happen at some point when the current generation takes over – the kids that have grown up with their face glued to a smart phone – all the knowledge amassed by mankind at their fingertips, 24/7, and look what they do with it… facebook and twitter.  F~~~ me.  Tyranny and bondage will happen when resources start getting really scarce and the population starts to nosedive.

In other words, this is actually a pretty good time to be MGTOW.  It is a good time to be selfish.  Enjoy.

 

[Anonymous 1]

Snake wrote:

If you have ever dated a woman, paid for anything for a woman, lived with a woman, had sex with a woman, married a woman, had a kid with a woman – you are partly to blame.

No we are not. Should men be blamed for having a sexual drive? For wanting some affection from the opposite sex? We are to blame for wanting to be human?

Snake wrote:

Did she pay you to f~~~ her? Then you are to blame for the rest of us brothers not only having it harder to get free sex, but for the ridiculous notion that we are to pay women for it.

What kind of crazy logic is this? So men are now responsible for a women’s actions as well? Even if women are attracted to you just because your body, it still not free. You still are spending money, time and effort to preserve your body and to get sex. Nothing in this life is free, so if you could stop blaming MEN for WOMEN’s s~~~ty life choices, I would appreciate.

As Sidecar posted, speak for yourself. I am not taking responsibility for other people’s actions, neither I am apologizing for my own f~~~ing biology.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Perhaps people don’t get it. Us men let women get away with s~~~. So yes we are to blame also.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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