Harsh Lessons and Dodging Bullets

[Chieftain84Participant 17]

Hey guys, just wanna introduce myself and give a bit of backstory on how I came to be the MGTOW I am today;

After finishing high school I started working and met a chick who was a regular customer. After 4 years together we got married and afterwards she fell pregnant. The pregnancy was normal until she gave birth, due to a genetic heart issue she sadly died. Now a widower and single father, I had to stay strong for my newly born daughter and mother-in-law. What ended my mental stability was at 6 months old, my daughter passed away from heart disease. This completely broke me. I had to quit my job because I spiraled down into depression, anxiety and PTSD which led me to 2 failed suicide attempts. This was 9 years ago.

Fast-forward 5 years and I came out of my shell and attempted to date again and dated a woman (let’s call her ‘B’) for 18 months. During this time, her ex ‘child-man’ had 2 kids and proposed to chick ‘A’. While I was studying since I couldn’t work ‘B’ was sleeping around with ‘child-man’ behind my back. I found out, but pretended to remain oblivious until my studies had finished. 2 weeks later I called my brother to move my s~~~ after packing it all up, let ‘B’ know it was over with a middle-finger salute and disappeared.

3 years on I am loving the single life and recently I learnt of ‘child-mans’ fate;
1. Due to ‘child-man’s s~~~ genes the youngest of ‘A’s kids has a learning disability and eye problems.
2. Proposed to and had a kid with ‘B’, leaving her with post-natal depression and leaving her a single mother.
3. Proposed to and recently had a kid to ‘C’.

4 kids to 3 chicks and not even 24 yet, his ’18-yr baby-jail’ sentence reset itself with each kid he had. No sympathy for him whatsoever. Thank f~~~ I’m not that guy. Sorry for the length but that’s my experience.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Welcome brother; that is a rough road you’ve traveled.

The good thing is you’ve arrived at an oasis in the desert, where good men stop to refill the tank, exchange stories, advice & dirty jokes.

Your path will ultimately be of your own choices, but there are some similarities that we all share. I hope you learn as much as you’d like from the forums & resources & get things moving how *you* want them to.

[EchoesParticipant 92]

Hello Chieftain, I logged in just to comment on your thread. The first part of your post really shocked me. I’m sure it was really difficult for you to cope with losing your wife and daughter that way in such a short timespan. You said it happened many years ago and if you’re comfortable with sharing I’d love to hear about how you overcame all of that at such a bleak point in your life.

As for the child-man he’s already flipped his life upside down, poor guy! Reminds me of this article I saw of this man in prison who was released because his income was less than the child support payments. The government can’t extort you for your hard earned money if you’re locked up in jail now can they.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome Chieftain84. I’m lost for words really. You’ve been through what most never have to suffer. Welcome here. I’ve found it food for my soul and I hope you find a similar connection.

[Chieftain84Participant 17]

Thanks guys for your responses, even coming from men I don’t know in other parts of the world (I’m in Australia btw) it means a lot. Goes to show that us guys have bigger hearts than most women I’ve encountered. When chicks ask why I’m single and get the response, they simply don’t care (family members being the exception).

In response to Echoes;
The first 2 years after that hellish experience I became an alcoholic and self-medicated with drugs to balance myself out eg smoked pot to calm down my severe anxiety. From 64kgs/141lbs I dropped down to 50kgs/110lbs because of stress and not eating. What kept me going were the handful of mates that hated seeing me on that downward spiral. Last year I got cleared to stop taking anti-depressants, got help from a dietician; now back at 64kgs and having physio to recover from unrelated shoulder surgery. All-in-all my mental state is back to 100% and now working on my physical health and strength.

[HitmanParticipant]

greetings brother.
if you are here now then you are in the right place.
many of us find MGTOW after tragic events..
few with your experiences.
i’m so glad you found this place where sanity is found !
i sure as hell needed some sanity when i arrived.
(probably need some more come to think of it ! )..
words are tough sometimes..
just happy your’e here !

[Anonymous 0]

Hi again, I’m in Australia too. I feel like that guy in your intro. I too have 4 children to 3 ‘mothers’. I learnt the hard way. Maybe the life-long indoctrination that I would be happiest and fulfilled when I had a wife, children, and ‘family’ played a big part. I failed miserably. My whole concept of life is changing with every day now just in the few weeks since I have found MGTOW. I have been led to read many books and finally I am understanding the bulls~~~ that I have been swimming in for many years; on the T.V, in the newspapers, in the courts, at University, in the pubs and clubs, in the work place. Misandry is f~~~ing everywhere. Read some of the f~~~ed up true stories here and please learn from some of our mistakes. All the very best to you mate.

[experiencedParticipant]

Welcome Chieftain84! Congratulations on arriving at the right place!

Anonymous wrote:

I failed miserably.

Most of us here have failed miserably, “AT A RIGGED GAME!!” (said Dalek style from Dr. Who.)
In other words, we are not an island of misfit toys, but a bastion for fully functional, level-headed men, who do not subscribe to the bulls~~~ version of our role/position/reality within society.
Society failed miserably, we left.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 0]

Amen to that brother.

[Chieftain84Participant 17]

ParasiteFree; the guy I spoke about, the oldest of his kids is 5 and despite his mother’s concern, his father hates him for being so irresponsible because they didn’t raise a kid to be like that, not sure about what his 2 sisters think of this either

[Anonymous 0]

I’m here mate if you want to talk about it.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Welcome to the forums, Mr. Chieftain. Just to let you know I am really sorry for your loss. But I’m glad that you seem to be over it…and also glad that you have successfully managed to dodge those bullets. Though your child-man story is a good laugh, I would advise not to speak ill of others, the karma might fire back sometimes. Forget everyone else, focus on yourself. Do things you like, plan for your future. There are just so many joys in life, its just not possible to live them all in one lifetime.

Welcome again.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[AttonParticipant]

You are a hell of a lot more resistant than I am that can be said with confidence.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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