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Anonymous0The harassment accusation backlash is already in progress, and now will accelerate. Half of these public accusations seem to have no solid evidence to back them. If public accusations are lacking evidence, private accusations are likely to be far less founded.
The backlash already in progress is due to a significant % of women who are quick to make false or exaggerated allegations. They threaten complaint, formally complain, or start lawsuits when they think they can deflect criticism or advance. Thus women are avoided by most productive men in challenging workplaces for this reason and also because they generally are not helpful in solving difficult problems. Most women are only good at retail and other basic services, but most fail where jobs require long hours of management, lots of travel, hazardous environment exposure, or complex manufacturing/technical services.
Consequently, most powerful men ordinarily do not harass females in the workplace. They are able to get women outside work easily enough. It is usually weak or insecure or stupid men who harass at work. Some of those men who feel stuck or powerless in an unhappy marriage may feel they need to sneak around, and sneaking around quickly can become sneaking propositions and trying to leverage their workplace power to offer advancement to women in return for sex. Abuses should be punished, but the finding of abuse is not easy to substantiate, so companies panic and punish before the evidence is solid. This creates the opportunity for blackmail smear campaigns.
The result of this avalanche of these half-founded harassment persecutions is 1) workplaces will be made somewhat safer for women to work without fear of harassment. That is good, but 2) there will also be a more deliberate effort to avoid women at work, to not hire them all other things being equal, and to freeze them out of social occasions at work for fear of men doing something while drinking that will get them fired or give women a blackmail opportunity. This will make it harder for women to advance, not easier.
In addition, the increased threat of harassment complaint adds to the perception that women in general are not only not worth the effort to commit to for business reasons, but also not worth the risk for personal commitment. Women are increasingly seen as high risk investments for long term relationships and marriage. I have seen many social media persecutions by women of men during and after breakups. I have seen marriages fail and the man’s post-marriage friend networks rapidly evaporate due to social media persecution by the ex.
This overconnected world creates massive and lucrative yet fragile social networks. Relations with women at work and personally are therefore many times more fraught with danger than in the past. I personally try to date separately from workplace networks and old friend networks. I am beginning to believe this separation is critical to robust development of career and social life. An emerging MGTOW caution policy pattern is evident: avoid women as much as possible with any connection to your workplace, avoid dating, or if you date, avoid women too close to old friend networks, and avoid financially committing to women. Avoid cohabitation, avoid attending her family functions…keep women financially/emotionally at arm’s length or longer.
In short, men like me are on strike already in committing to women in our business or personal lives, and the harassment avalanche is only going to cause more men to strike against women. The risk and price is simply too high. Will this last forever? No.
The events that will bring men and women back together will be cataclysmic. The matriarchal welfare state women have largely contributed to build since they got voting rights will collapse spectacularly. The political system has become too democratic, such that the majority is now voting to strip money, property, and freedom from successful people, mostly males. This has been done before in many countries, and the result is always depression, war, chaos, and tyranny, followed by successive coups and some combination of capricious tyranny and warlord anarchy.
When this Reckoning comes, women revert to their subordinate role when the tribe is under constant threat…women trading sex for food and protection. Welfare states seemingly prevent this sexual trade from being necessary, but that respite only lasts until the system collapses into chaos. That is slowly happening in the western world. Women’s hegemony in the workplace and in social life will be short lived. When Warfare States return to prominence, women will have to f~~~ and suck for their supper and shelter again. We are animals, and that’s what animals do. Humans are not ready for meritocratic liberty secured by republican government. The American Founders tried to design a system where pure democracy could not take over, but they failed, and their successors failed. For example, 1913 alone was a bad year– Income Tax, the Fed, and Senate elections doomed the republic, and doomed liberty. Liberty is now a dead woman walking up the steps of the gallows. When the govt declares martial law after the next financial cataclysm or nuclear attack, she will be hung to death, likely never to be resurrected.
Our strike is perfectly reasonable given these conditions. Ladies may enjoy their fake wealth and freedom and safety while it lasts, but it wont last much longer. The Kings will Return.
Anonymous42Avalanche?
I’m ready!
I have my MGTOW ABS (air bag system).
Always more blue pill manginas to be feed into the machine just NFG and try to keep yourself safe.
Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging
Anonymous3This Hollywood thing actually shows even the richest, most powerful, high status men are considered abusers, harassers and rapists in women’s eyes decades afterwards.
So the myth that these men have been pushing all these decades that other men are just betas and women lost after their alpha selves should be exposed as the complete bulls~~~ it is.
All women can consider all men rapists whenever they wish. Feminist dogma is “all heterosexual sex is rape”.
What you mention of men avoiding women at work, that’s actually also considered harassment in well established SCOTUS cases. Do men can’t even do that.
Most men can’t and won’t strike because most men need to work to survive. If most men are willing to accept lower standards of living or otherwise enter organized crime because regular work is so atrocious, sure it is possible that something would change. But the vast majority of men would instead rather work for an employer making decent wages, and that means being under the heel of women most of the time, especially as a younger man. When men get a bit older it actually stops being an issue, because despite what people claim about SMV, women tend to leave men alone starting in your early 30s at work. And they give you more space the older you get. Women tend to enjoy bullying around younger men instead.
Now realistically most men will still want sex and don’t really worry about any of these accusations. I still think it’s best to be careful at work, and not s~~~ where you eat, but a lot of men don’t even care about that and it isn’t a problem. The vast majority of men will never get accused of anything. Especially the vast majority of younger men that are sexually active, because most young people are completely broke. As long as the man doesn’t become rich and famous later on, most women won’t know what happened to him anyway. Women aren’t going to make claims decades later for a nobody, they’ll never even know you exist. And you can make a lot of money being a nobody. The only famous people are actors, celebrities, and to a lesser extent athletes. Even older athletes, most women won’t know of decades later after they’re retired.
It’s really not that big of a deal. The only way it really stops is when men’s libido drops and they don’t want to deal with it. As long as men are still thirsty, they’ll still risk it, because the risk is so puny.
Our strike is perfectly reasonable given these conditions.
A”strike” implies that this is a “temporary” thing, but I think for more and more MEN, regardless of the MGTOW Label, that there Aint NO Going Back.
It’s WAY to LATE for ANY of THAT !!
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
It’s really not that big of a deal. The only way it really stops is when men’s libido drops and they don’t want to deal with it. As long as men are still thirsty, they’ll still risk it, because the risk is so puny.
I understand the main point of your argument and I have no disagreement with it. Except perhaps to say that the way this alters behavior is in many cases more nuanced then a simple choice between pursuing women or not. For example, I would for a large organization, over 100,000 employees. I am in management. I simply wont date ANY woman who works for this organization. Why would I. The risk of issues arising now or in the future is high and the payoff for my effort (as with any approach to a woman to assess interest) is relatively low. Why wouild I risk having a complain lodged against me that would effectively end my career advancement for the off chance of getting a date with some administrative clerk.
I think a lot of men will adopt strategies like this, avoiding socializing with women at their work place as the risk calculation is just very high.
What does that mean, well, it means one of the places men and women use to meet each other is now effectively closed off unless you are a very low level in the organization and don’t worry about career advancement. Which means the type of quality men that women wish to date or marry, aren’t going to risk even asking them out. They’ll only end up being pursued by the type men they say they disdain.
Women have geared themselves up for the epic “big” battle, arrive at the battle site, and find no one to battle against.
NFG
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
Anonymous5Humans are not ready for meritocratic liberty secured by republican government.
We’re exactly the same species that evolved in small family/tribal groups to cope with a brutal natural environment.
Dunbar’s Number will always apply, no matter what system we use from Monarchy, to Capitalism to Communism to Oligarchy and every other system imaginable. Only a benign dictatorship works but this is always limited to one lifetime.
The majority will always be enslaved by a small minority in any group over 150/200. This applies to all civilizations.In the presence of a civilized state, women will exploit all males of the state using their superior social manipulative nagging and shaming skills and hive mentality.
Excavation of cuneiform script clay tablets from Mesopotamia/Babylon show exactly the same trend of divorce rape, alimony, child payments and matriarchal domination preceding the collapse of the first great civilization.
J.D.Unwin found exactly the same pattern in every major civilization collapse since then.I agree with Phoenix. In many ways this is a problem for highly visible people that have something to lose, that have a public image that can be damaged. These cases seem to rarely be legal, they are all tried in public opinion.
I also think that the majority of these men are somewhat ‘alpha’ in nature. By that I mean that they are no strangers to the adoration of women, and women wanting to be pursued by them. Trump’s statement of just grabbing them by the pussy is really about that. How women have often basically open their legs up to the point where he didn’t have to sweet talk them or anything.
These ‘alphas’ do seem to get to the point where they think every woman wants them, and they can no longer tell whether they are crossing the ever moving line. They believe no one will call them out since no one ever has.
Lastly, I don’t trust all of these women. We all know that it’s only sexual harassment if she decides she didn’t like it. I don’t think women are above lying about it to further their careers or just get their name in the paper. I also don’t trust women’s memories of how events occurred 40 years earlier. In the case of Roy Moore for example, I would not be surprised if she remembers seeing Roy Moore at the restaurant, then was raped by her BF or a stranger in the parking lot. Her memory of the traumatic event turned into rape by Mr. Moore.
Ok. Then do it.
EXCELLENT post Beef…am looking forward to more from you in the future.
I would add only one caveat. Men fleeing women due to the threats/hazard will NOT be limited to the workplace. Sexual harassment claims can occur in ANY social setting—so the good news is that more and more men will be expunging c~~~s from their lives if for no other reason than self protection.
The avalanche might send more men our way but until it effects the economy it won’t do much. If the numbers are right coming out the great find Jan had. When woman can’t spend men’s money and all those retail stores and industries that cater to woman start to fail there might be a change. Woman won’t able to afford the shoes and make up any more. If men only spend 40% of what they earn and don’t let woman spent the the other 60% – CRASH.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Lot of men got shafted, was only a matter of time.
It might take a little while yet, but I think women are pushing it to the point where so many accusations are made no one will pay attention,…….or at least I hope so.mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Walking past a woman is enough to land you in court defending yourself against 7 years in jail.
Man falsely accused of sexually assaulting actress feels like he has undergone ‘mental torture sanctioned by the state’
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Anonymous12I’m waiting for the law suits, men are losing their jobs over these allegations without even as much as any investigation being carried out. Sooner or later a man is going to get fed up and start fighting back.
And the “Crown” feel it is ok to try and frame people now.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) were found to have deliberately slowed down the footage, which made it appear Mr Pearson had more time to assault the alleged victim.
Mr Pearson’s defence barrister Mark Bagshaw explained the footage had been slowed down from one frame per second to one frame per two seconds.
Is it just my imagination, or have ladies been behaving more poorly than usual?
I don’t see how a lady can claim sexual misconduct decades after the incident occurred without a shred of evidence. How good is a ladies memory regarding something that occurred years ago? And is there something to be gained by these claims, be it monetary gain or just attention?
In my day to day interaction with women, I have noted an increase in women’s rudeness. It is sometimes difficult listening to them complain and act like children.
Where have all the good men gone? Away from toxic, annoying women.
Excuse me. I have to go shopping for some ear plugs.
When this Reckoning comes, women revert to their subordinate role when the tribe is under constant threat…women trading sex for food and protection.
Too bad most of them will be so heinous by that time that no man will touch them. Yay feminism….
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
In my day to day interaction with women, I have noted an increase in women’s rudeness. It is sometimes difficult listening to them complain and act like children.
I’ve noticed the same thing over the recent few years. Especially in the give and take of a spirited discussion. It seems that someone, somewhere, once told them to be aggressive in conversation…..to show men they cant be bullied.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
Anonymous12Is it just my imagination, or have ladies been behaving more poorly than usual?
I don’t see how a lady can claim sexual misconduct decades after the incident occurred without a shred of evidence. How good is a ladies memory regarding something that occurred years ago? And is there something to be gained by these claims, be it monetary gain or just attention?
In my day to day interaction with women, I have noted an increase in women’s rudeness. It is sometimes difficult listening to them complain and act like children.
Where have all the good men gone? Away from toxic, annoying women.
Excuse me. I have to go shopping for some ear plugs.
Is it just my imagination, or have ladies been behaving more poorly than usual?
I don’t see how a lady can claim sexual misconduct decades after the incident occurred without a shred of evidence. How good is a ladies memory regarding something that occurred years ago? And is there something to be gained by these claims, be it monetary gain or just attention?
In my day to day interaction with women, I have noted an increase in women’s rudeness. It is sometimes difficult listening to them complain and act like children.
Where have all the good men gone? Away from toxic, annoying women.
Excuse me. I have to go shopping for some ear plugs.
Is it just my imagination, or have ladies been behaving more poorly than usual?
I don’t see how a lady can claim sexual misconduct decades after the incident occurred without a shred of evidence. How good is a ladies memory regarding something that occurred years ago? And is there something to be gained by these claims, be it monetary gain or just attention?
In my day to day interaction with women, I have noted an increase in women’s rudeness. It is sometimes difficult listening to them complain and act like children.
Where have all the good men gone? Away from toxic, annoying women.
Excuse me. I have to go shopping for some ear plugs.
It’s definitely happening. I have noticed in elevators in particular women will be at the back and yet feel they have the right to exit first and will just barge through everyone else. They feel an entitlement for sure.
And I also agree that to try and accuse someone of a crime 20 years later is a bit much. Memories are known to change with time and shifts in perception. Not to mention social attitudes change as well. What might be considered sexual harassment now (which includes just about everything) was not considered harassment 20 years ago.
Anonymous3I’m waiting for the law suits, men are losing their jobs over these allegations without even as much as any investigation being carried out. Sooner or later a man is going to get fed up and start fighting back.
And the “Crown” feel it is ok to try and frame people now.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) were found to have deliberately slowed down the footage, which made it appear Mr Pearson had more time to assault the alleged victim.
Mr Pearson’s defence barrister Mark Bagshaw explained the footage had been slowed down from one frame per second to one frame per two seconds.
The reason why this happens is because men do resort to lawsuits.
The second you give someone power over you and legitimize and accept that power, you become a powerless slave that can be treated any way they want.
When men are REALLY fed up and aware, there won’t be any lawsuits. Men will understand that the system is gynocentric and have zero faith in the courts to provide justice. So they will take matters into their own hands.
As long as men still believe in the system, the system will continue abusing men.
Why any man would accept the courts is beyond me. The only way I would ever accept courts is if they were all run by self programming AI, and their first victims were the elites and current politicians, judges, law enforcement, and women were getting punished by the courts. That is the only way I’d ever believe the court is being objective and fair.
Because I know women are liars and cheaters and any objective system would be primarily punishing women for their lying and cheating and mischief. Only a man that is wholly inexperienced with women could possibly believe women are truthful, honest, and follow the rules.
As long as men still believe in the system, the system will continue abusing men.
Amen brother. I don’t want to change the system, you girls go ahead and play with it all you want. Peace out bitches…
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
Will wonder how creative they will get when its comes to getting attention?
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
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