Hai ghaiz, is this the place?

[SeamusTheDogParticipant 78]

Five-time broken heart here…

I’m glad to see a forum for men only, for MGTOW only. Honestly, I’m not 100% sure if I’m MGTOW by anyone else’s definition. I do plan to use prostitutes if the need ever gets to be so strong. So far (1-1/2 years on my own) hentai and Rosie have served my needs just fine. I guess it comes down to the definition of “necessary” in “wanting to have no dealings with women unless necessary”. The names below have been changed to protect the guilty.

First broken heart: Tammy Saint John agreed to go out with me on a date when I was 14. I guess I was too nerdy for her because when I told my “friends” (who were really just trailer trash kids) about my excitement at going to a movie with her, they went and ribbed her for it so hard that she pulled out. I should have known right then, but my hormones were too strong for my brain. I obsessed angrily over her for some 4-5 months, then forgot about her completely. Today, she’s a used-up crack whore (who I am amazed is still alive). SOOO glad I didn’t “win” that prize.

Second: Emanuelle Cummings and I became good friends in high school, and spent a lot of our spare time together after I graduated (she dropped out). She has a caring softness to her that I still admire, and we’re still friends today. But back then, she was always dating bad boys who treated her like s~~~, while I worshiped the ground she walked on. She would never go out with me, but would use me as her emotional tampon whenever things went south with her biker-boy-du-jour (though she hasn’t done that for many years, since I took away that privilege in the early 90s). I obsessed over her for YEARS, even while in relationships with other women. Best thing I can say is at least she found a guy who has the bad boy look she loves, but is actually a decent, upstanding, responsible man. They are perhaps the most functional couple I know.

Third broken heart: Zhang Qi, my college sweetheart, flatly refused to share her inner emotional life with me, when I naively demanded that she be more open with herself. We had been going out for a year or so, and I liked her a lot, but was never able to get close enough to satisfy me. I took her rebuff as a personal slight, when I shouldn’t have. I didn’t realize at the time (and she didn’t realize I didn’t know) that Chinese culture is gender-segregated to a large degree. Being lovers in China is a lot less of a whole-person investment than the idealized romance of the West. After researching the matter, I’ve concluded that they know better how to maintain personal space than Westerners. Live and learn I guess.

Fourth: Mikal Dubois and I had reciprocal secret crushes while we were in college, and after college, while I was on Army leave from Korea, we met up and it came out. We got into a hot, fast, lusty relationship that grew further when we both ended up teaching English in Seoul, Korea after I left the military. I proposed and she accepted, and I spent some $800 a month on phone bills talking to her every other night. When I made my way back to her hometown, it turned out she hadn’t even told her family that we were engaged. What’s more, she admitted to cheating on me. At least she had the decency to tell me the sex was better with me. She is now a used-up, fat matron. Again, SOO glad I didn’t win that prize.

Fifth: Rose O’Reilly was a single mom, but with (apparently) a heart of gold, who seemingly had simply had bad judgment in her previous relationships. 3 kids with 3 different men should have been enough to warn me. The sex was scarily good, and she only demanded every weekend of my full attention (since she is Canadian), so I was on cloud 9 for a while. But as I got close to her kids, her jailbird brother (who had just gotten out of prison) started planting pedo suspicions in her about me, behind my back. Every show of affection towards the kids on my part became “creepy”, and she finally gave me the boot when she misheard something I said. She even got the police involved who found zero evidence of any wrongdoing on my part. I mean, they even combed my laptop for CP. This was the worst heart-ripper of all, because her little daughter had become the light of my life. Months later (I was such a sucker) we were talking about it on the phone and she said what she thought I had meant, and I explained to her that was not the case. She said “You made me believe something that wasn’t true!” and that was the last time we talked. I mean, if someone you loved said to you, “I murdered my parents”, you would ask them what they meant by that, right? You wouldn’t just assume that they were a murderer and get them out of your life. You would assume at first that they meant it metaphorically, if at all, and felt guilty for borrowing the station wagon that day and they drove the coupe and got killed in a rear-ender… something like that… I got no such chance to explain myself until months later, long after the relationship was dead. I don’t know where she is now, and somehow I feel better not knowing.

There have been a couple of minor heartbreaks since then (2009) but I’ll never let another woman get that close to me, and truly have no interest in engaging them, though I do page through POF or OKC periodically just so i can see “what I’m missing out on”. It always makes me happy to be a Man Going My Own Way, at last.

"All your children are poor, unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control... A plague upon your ignorance to the great despair of your ugly life!" -Frank Zappa

[Anonymous 42]

Gee, call me heartless, all I have is a burned out cavity where a heart once was, I can still smell the ashes once in a while…
Can’t break what ya don’t have! GOOD!

Welcome to the #1 MGTOW forum! enjoy!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[HitmanParticipant]

this IS the place . welcome !

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

It will become obvious …. over time … that love is just chemicals sloshing around your head.

It doesn’t last …. as inevitably you face the ‘come down’.

I’m much like Tower now …. can only get a whiff of burnt bacon now and again.

[Anonymous 42]

ILiveAgain wrote:

I’m much like Tower now …. can only get a whiff of burnt bacon now and again.

You’re lucky LiveAgain, mine smells like burnt leather!
A little more cooking and yours will smell like burnt leather too!

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome. Terrific intro too!

SeamusTheDog wrote:

SOOO glad I didn’t “win” that prize.

This was the best part of Red Pill awakening,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no regrets about ever losing any catch.
I wasted so much time wishing I’d have got “The Right” woman and I’d fantasize about what things would have been like if only I’d chosen this other woman. The other woman turned out to be a sloppy mess as well.
The bottom line is that once a women gets state ownership through a marriage contract, cohabitation rights or procreated DNA, they change.
It happens every time. Only the degree of change is variable.

SeamusTheDog wrote:

biker-boy-du-jour

haha, this is sooooooo true.
Contrary to these women claiming they’re helpless victims of misrepresentation, they’re acutely aware of the nature of the dysfunctional men they’re attracted to from the first meeting.
The fact that when they describe their current inseminater and their Ex and their Ex-ex and their Ex-ex-ex they’re describing exactly the same character should give them a clue.
Personally, I think they know their folly, they just feel they’re decadently entitled to indulge themselves.
This pattern goes on till they can no longer lure the bad boy types they’re attracted to,,,then it’s “Where have all the good men gone”

[Anonymous 18]

Warm welcome brother.

Thanks for sharing your side of the story.

I love reading them. Bitch DNA decoded. They are all the same.

When the going gets tough every woman will put a bullet in her ‘soulmate’ head if it means saving her inconvenience in life.

Hell they ruin perfectly good relationships because the woman doesn’t feel special or in love after 10 years of marriage. Only to get f~~~ed about a dozen guys before she realizes she f~~~ed up big time.

And then she turns a feminist.

Another brother in arms.

[Anonymous 26]

SeamusTheDog wrote:

though I do page through POF or OKC periodically just so i can see “what I’m missing out on”. It always makes me happy to be a Man Going My Own Way, at last.

Welcome SeamusTheDog…. you know I’ve completely cut POF out of my mind and life, never going to waste a minute there. Ironically (and I had shared this with admin here, not sure if it’s KeyMaster), I had joined OKC the night before I had found the Red Pill here….. and let me tell you OKC hasn’t been more fun since I had a complete re-wiring back into reality with the concept and the self reawakening of MGTOW!

POF used to drive me FN crazy… as I would send out polite and intelligent hello letters, have my profile looked at, and you guessed it…… nothing else. I always thought WTF is a matter with me? And then started thinking…. maybe it isn’t me maybe it’s just my profile. After a rewrite I was getting looked at more but no messages other than from disgusting over-catted land whales!

Now fortunately in OKC the reality of it is…. I live near a city that has a ratio of 7 slits to 1 dick! And I’ve been reminding women that if 1 out of 10 guys is a decent guy… that ratio jumps to 70 to 1.
I no longer look at it as….”what can I offer a woman” (because honestly I cannot afford the expectations they think they deserve or are looking for).

Instead am thinking since there are more of them than me….. what can they bring to the table? It might be a little arrogant of me to think this way, but I consider myself a valuable commodity here for a very limited time only.

I also make it quite clear that am not looking for a relations~~~, the occasional dutch date, casual safe sex, or a day time activity like a bike ride or a hike. If they bitch about anything….. they can keep on hiking by themselves.

I can however in time seeing myself completely throwing them all away and out of my life and be completely happy without female bulls~~~!

Cheers

[SeamusTheDogParticipant 78]

Anonymous wrote:

Personally, I think they know their folly, they just feel they’re decadently entitled to indulge themselves.

THIS^

Decadent entitlement! I’ve been looking for a phrase to express just that! Thanks, ordinaryguy!

"All your children are poor, unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control... A plague upon your ignorance to the great despair of your ugly life!" -Frank Zappa

[SeamusTheDogParticipant 78]

ILiveAgain wrote:

It will become obvious …. over time … that love is just chemicals sloshing around your head.

It doesn’t last …. as inevitably you face the ‘come down’.

I’m much like Tower now …. can only get a whiff of burnt bacon now and again.

On the “chemicals sloshing around in your head” subject:

I have a confession to make. I have a housemate who is female. Thankfully for me, she was diagnosed with brain damage early in life, and what this right-brain damage has done to her is (get this!) caused her to be extremely logical in her thinking. She’s a fairly wealthy businesswoman (okay, I called her a housemate but she’s more of a patroness) and agrees with me every time I start spewing my MGTOW frustrations. She’s like, “Yeah these American women are entitled bitches. Why can’t they see that they’re cutting their own noses off to spite their face?”

Anyway she was telling me the other day about an article that cited a study that shows that babies give off pheromones that cause permanent physiological changes in the brains of those adults who are around them, while stimulating the reward centers (like heroin!). This pheromone-emission decreases quickly after birth and accounts for the lesser degree of emotional attachment to babies that fathers experience if they are absent for the first two weeks of their child’s life. It also accounts for the baby-rabies that many women get who have attended a friend’s birth.

think of how many women you have heard express something to the tune of, “I just love the smell of babies”

that’s because babies are nature’s trickiest drug dealer.

"All your children are poor, unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control... A plague upon your ignorance to the great despair of your ugly life!" -Frank Zappa

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Seamus the Dog. Your writing and presentation of your story is excellent. I enjoyed reading your introduction.

You dodged five bullets. Your guardian Angel is doing a good job of keeping you out of trouble.

In my twenties, I also felt great heart ache over the loss of my “Soul Mates.”

Your story about the effects of a baby’s pheromones on women is brilliant. It has been my experience that women’s pheromones produce a similar effect in men. Good sex creates similar brain chemistry to heroin. I suspect that man’s enslavement to women is primarily chemistry.

That heart ache after a break up is similar to the withdrawal of a drug addict.

It has been my experience during my thirties and forties, that having other women to f~~~ right after a break up lessens the pain. In fact, like the alcoholic’s “hair of the dog,” separately f~~~ing three different women hard until they are spent, making each have a minimum of twenty orgasms, eliminated any heart ache as a result of the loss of a good “Soul Mate.”

In my fifties, young healthy women in their early twenties are my “crack cocaine.” After f~~~ing one, even if they don’t have orgasms, my arthritis pain is gone, I feel ten years younger, and my masculine drive is fiercer. Alas, the withdrawal happens in two weeks. In a month, I am arthritic again and feel like I am a burned out fifty years old.

Nevertheless, MGTOW is the best way to go.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

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