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What you should do – is admit you were wrong, apologize, and then tell them you were really irritable yesterday because of your period
(winning!)proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I always stand with my women, men are oppressors, we women stick together.
The same men who pay trillions in tax for affirmative action for the women folk. Aka student loans. If men really where oppressors they would used have women as cannon fodder and sex slaves. They would be very very few in number if this was indeed the case.
The other woman responded by saying the women had to take care of the household when the men were away at war.
War kills people household duties almost never do.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Thanks.
The women folk want to monopolize victimhood it is a weapon one of many. But it is still a form of manipulation that is all you are really dealing with here.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I’m going to give you the same advice as everyone else here. It’s a waste of time trying to talk to them. they aren’t seeking truth or fact. They are seeking reassurance for their chosen belief system which is designed to avoid both.
That being said, I do have a confession to make. About a week ago, I was in a similar situation at work. Standing at a place where I needed to be to wait for something so I could start my job, there were two women talking. Both standing and waiting with me, while having their own discussion. Both are post wall, divorced and not happy that they have to work at all. I was mostly ignoring them (as is my habit when women speak) checking email on my phone and crap like that trying to keep my brain occupied while I waited.
As their conversation got around to men and divorces, I looked up from my phone, but didn’t say anything. One of them looked at me and said, “you’re not married, are you?”. I just held up my left hand, pointed to my ring finger (No ring) and said, “Nah, too risky…”. Then, I just looked back down at my phone. I expected them to ignore me after that. Looking back down at my phone and not elaborating was the hint they were supposed to take that I wouldn’t be participating further in the conversation. It was me sliding back under the radar. At least, it was supposed to be.
The very next line out of the older one was, “Whaddya mean! Divorce laws are totally biased in men’s favor!”. For just a split second, I thought she was joking. I expected the other one to giggle, but heard silence. I started to ignore it, but I got a little confused about wether she was joking. I looked up at her to see if she was serious, or just screwing with me. And I saw that she was dead serious. From the look on her face, I could see she clearly believed what she had said.
I busted out laughing, right in her face. It was the rudest thing I’ve done in a long time, but I couldn’t help myself. I wasn’t ready for it. If I had known she was going to say that, I would have prepared myself better and been completely stoic. Even when I disagree, I’m not rude. But I was so surprised, I just lost it.
But soon after I realized that she was serious, I was insulted, and then I was p~~~ed off. I wasn’t ready for that insult either. I did the same thing you did. I pulled out some logic, and some stats and dumped that s~~~ all over her. I was merciless. I didn’t raise my voice, but didn’t give her time to answer either. I wrecked her.
When I had regained control, I transitioned into a more civil discussion with them. I learned that while both agreed that they had been the victim, both had come away from the deal with their (free) house. The reason they felt like victims was that their ex’s had not lived up to their expectations, not because they hadn’t hit the divorce jackpot. After getting married, they didn’t live happily ever after, so they were victims. In their minds, the free houses were not even worth mentioning compared with the loss of their happily ever after fantasy. That’s what they were p~~~ed about. The free house wasn’t even a factor in the equation.
That’s how completely entitled they are. In their minds, if you don’t keep them happy for the rest of their lives, they take your house. But even then, you still owe them. In their minds, the divorce laws are biased in favor of men because they don’t force men to keep them happy for the rest of their lives. They only bankrupt men, and that’s not enough to keep them happy for long. Trying to reason with that mindset is a waste. They’re too far gone.
As expressed by an old surgeon I knew once, “Don’t try to bring barbecue’d chicken to a veterinarian…”.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
BrainPilot, the last few paragraphs really resonated with me. It explains why my STBxW thinks my offer in the divorce is so unfair. It has confused me how offering over half of everything to her, which includes a large sum of cash, was so quickly rebuffed by her. Everyone, including lawyers and other divorced people said it was more than fair. She is upset because I’m not forced to fund her happily ever after.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
Nomore,
as it looks to me, women are children who almost grow up. But then they see that growing up is scary and has responsibility and accountability attached to it. Adults are required to be responsible for themselves and their own happiness. Faced with this, and missing the days when their parents accepted responsibility for keeping them happy, they elect to get married. This isn’t a decision to become partners in an adult relationship. It’s a decision to replace the parents with a new adult to be responsible for keeping them happy. In their minds, you owe it to them as much as their parents did, and they expect you to act the part.parents sacrifice for their kids and neither get, nor expect anything in return. It’s a good deal if you’re the kid, but it isn’t meant to last. Men are just the replacement parents in their return to a childhood state of having another adult accept responsibility for making them happy.
She’s not refusing the offer because she’s making a smart adult strategy decision. She’s refusing because she is throwing a slow, quiet tantrum about you abandoning your commitment to the happiness that you OWE her. She doesn’t want the money as much as she wants the court to FORCE you to continue taking responsibility for making her happy for the rest of her life.
(Also possible that her lawyer is encouraging her to fight more so he can keep running up billable hours)
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Don’t argue with them.
File a complaint with HR about them creating a hostile work environment.
What’s good for the goose…
She’s not refusing the offer because she’s making a smart adult strategy decision. She’s refusing because she is throwing a slow, quiet tantrum about you abandoning your commitment to the happiness that you OWE her. She doesn’t want the money as much as she wants the court to FORCE you to continue taking responsibility for making her happy for the rest of her life.
(Also possible that her lawyer is encouraging her to fight more so he can keep running up billable hours)
‘Owe her’ is very true. She has told me numerous times that it isn’t fair that I’ll be ‘fine’ after the divorce. In her mind, being fine means I’ll be able to financially support myself. She completely ignores the fact that I’ll have much less time and interaction with our child. To her, fair would be that I’m having difficulties supporting myself, while fully funding whatever lifestyle she wants, and still accepting limited time with our child. It’s so ridiculous that even our mutual female friends are shaking their heads and wondering WTF she’s going on about.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
While it’s nice to put a deranged woman back on her heels once in a while, it’s always dangerous to publicly “out” yourself as someone who’s aware of what a s~~~-show feminism really is; especially in the work place.
Like those other guys said, if you argued feminism with women in your office, you can expect a meeting with HR and you better polish up your resume.
The harpies you encountered might have been speaking their trash in front of you just to gauge your reaction and trigger the argument they wanted from you in the first place. Don’t let a woman force you to do anything, including disagreeing with her, no matter how stupid she sounds.The other day, I had a heated discussion with two women at work.
Just dont. no win situation. If you talked to your pet beagle, you’d get more accomplished than engaging in debate with 2 c~~~s
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
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