H-1B Visas

[RumpoleParticipant 994]

I have heard a great deal about H-1B visa holders in the American workplace, and have some questions for you guys.
I did some research, and the visa holders are not suppose to displace American workers, and they are to paid wages comparable to those of the American workers.
Nonetheless, there have been many instances of H-1Bs displacing American workers (e.g., Southern California Edison and Disney IT employees), and that they are being paid considerably less than American workers.
Politicians and many others advise students to study the STEM fields, and a good many of you work in these fields. However, I remember a study from the Census Bureau a couple years ago which found that half of the people with STEM degrees are not working in their fields.
There seems to be no shortage of talented Americans to work in technology, yet employers continue to hire H-1B visa holders to fill the jobs.
I would appreciate any and all comments that you have on this subject.
Thanks guys!

[chirParticipant]

Well these are for profit companies. Their primary goal is to make money and make money for shareholders. So the one largest expense is labor. Not just the wage, but also the benefits. H-1B’s do not get the same benefit package. Companies save money because the total compensation is lower. So companies say there are no qualified American citizen workers. This phrase should actually read: “There are no CHEAP qualified American citizen workers.”

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[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

chir wrote:

Well these are for profit companies. Their primary goal is to make money and make money for shareholders. So the one largest expense is labor. Not just the wage, but also the benefits. H-1B’s do not get the same benefit package. Companies save money because the total compensation is lower. So companies say there are no qualified American citizen workers. This phrase should actually read: “There are no CHEAP qualified American citizen workers.”

By law, companies are required to give H1B employees the same benefits. Are you saying that companies are breaking the law regarding this?

[chirParticipant]

They would give the same benefits if the job was the same. Oh, structurally the job is the same but the companies “re-brand” the job description in the contracts. Less pay, less benefits for the same tasks the American worker was doing because the job contract is named differently. Gotta love HR. 🙂

I have talked to many programmers who have had this happen to them. Most of the really good ones freelance now. It turns out that cheap does not always mean good.

I have one acquaintance, who I wish I had took him up on his offer, that got a freelance job debugging and stress testing a s~~~ sandwich software that was developed for a vendor by an outsourced developer running mostly Indian and H1B tech’s. The vendor was under a deadline that would cost them a 30 million contract. He hired several of his friends and they tore the software apart, fixed it, debugged it and increased its performance by a magnitude by scraping out the s~~~ coding. He got a 1.2 million dollar check for one months of work. Took the original developer 3 years to make the s~~~ sandwich software. He retired 6 years ago at 56 and will never work again. Well… Unless his wife takes half. 🙂

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I worked at a potato chip company ( not really) that couldn’t find enough American Stem PhD’s that would work for BS level wages. So sponsored a lot of foreign ones who would work for slave wages plus the visa.

They were slaves. They could only go to a different job that would pay for the visa. Most wont.

The visa is for a specific job at a specific company not the person.

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[xenonParticipant 2007]

My ex was on one of those visas when I met her. Perfect wife until the green card came. Don’t need to tell you the rest.

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