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Off duty, white female cop works double shift, goes home, enters wrong apartment mistakeningly, shoots a black dude in the chest killing him.
The trial has begun.
Apparently, manslaughter is off the table here in Texas because it requires being reckless whereas she consciously pulled the trigger. Dont ask me bro, thats what the article said.
Although she was originally arrested on charges on manslaughter, the psychotic Dallas grand jury indicted her on Murder which is not a good sign for Dallas peace and tranquility.
The trouble is, the prosecutors must now convince a mostly female jury that she intended to murder that dude… that it wasnt just a reasonable mistake that anyone could make.
So when they cant get Murder pinned on her, they will go with Negligent Criminal Homicide. According to the article, thats merely a 2 Year State Jail sentence meaning, and correct me if Im wrong, she will be out in 6 months guys.
Once again, the overzealous and insane leftists of Dallas fvcked up their own justice and now this incompetent bitch, who IMHO should have been convicted of Manslaughter that same week and done a hard 5 years in Texas Pen… she will be out in 6 months and there will be million$ in protest and riot damage. Someone get me out of this insane racist city full of dumbasses.
The prosecutors are going to need REAL evidence, not just opinions and examples, of how she ought to of known she was in the wrong apartment. Thats not enough to convict, especially with a jury full of vagina. They think people give a sh!t about her sexting some other cop that night?! LOL.
Where is the evidence for Murder? There is none. And they already gypped themselves out of the appropriate verdict, Manslaughter...
So in about 2 weeks, she gets off free, or does 6 months on good behavior. Meanwhile the City erupts into black fury chaos… Get the popcorn ready on this oneEasy enough.
The victim and the perp were engaged in an “affair”.
Victim ended the affair.
Perp murdered the victim in a premeditated act of reprisal for ending said “affair”.
Perp is now guilty of murder.
Regardless of the truth of the matter. If “the law” demands a murder verdict, this will be the story line and the evidence will surface to support it.
Remember..
Listen and believe.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
victim and the perp were engaged in an “affair”.
We have been hearing that for a year, of course its the first natural thought right… Except that nothing of the sort ever happened.
He wasnt her type, plain and simple. He was a black pothead. She was a white Dallas cop. Theyre the least likely couple, this isnt some ironic Hollywood movie, its Dallas Texas.
Not saying blond THOT cops dont occassionally sit on a black pole… just saying this one didnt. Shes not that fringe…
She made a dreadful mistake, by accident, because she is dumb and had no business being a cop or having a firearm. It happens.
She didnt murder though. Its manslaughter no matter what that jury says or popular opinion.
I strongly believe she should be punished for her mistake. 5 years in prison is fine, no parole.
These psycho racists will be trying for Life at the bare minimum… freaking ridiculous.
And Id be saying the exact same thing if it had been a Black Male cop, who accidentally shot a white pothead female citizen… 5 Years Pen… manslaughter.
I’m staying out of this one. I really have not followed the case much. I don’t really have facts just feelz.
Feel bad for the guy. S~~~ does happen. If I did have to make a judgement, 2 solid years sounds good. Why? I got 4 months for Not following court order.. This c~~~ shot someone. IN HIS OWN HOME. She broke into HIS HOME. That can not be taken lightly.
But as all things, if their are riots? The police station is the lAST place they will go. They won’t hit up the woman’s home, or anything like that. Nope. They will take it out on Business. Other white people, and so many others.
She should have a FELONY on her record. She should not allowed to be able to use a FIREARM anymore. She should also not be allowed to serve in law enforcement. She should be on PROBATION for 5 years. And have to deal with a probation officer from hell. But as we all know, its all going to be cakewalk.
To think that today, a woman can shoot you, and just say “SELF DEFENSE” and its all good.
No thank you.
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And Id be saying the exact same thing if it had been a Black Male cop, who accidentally shot a white pothead female citizen… 5 Years Pen… manslaughter.
This just in, things that will never happen.. LOL! Like it or not, Its just not the same thing. I mean hear me out.
Do you get freaked out by having a bunch of young Asian women on a bus? No.
How about a BUNCH of young White women on a bus? Sort of.
Bunch of Black women on a bus? Yea.. Shields up.
Bunch of Indian’s (with the dot) on a bus? SHields up.
Buch of American Indian women on a bus? Meh.. Nope.
Bunch of Hispanic women on a bus? Meh. Fifty fifty.
I also have to say the uncomfortable truth about reality. Black men do not have a GREAT reputation. And that pretty much is the problem. But add a WOMAN into the mix? And a white one at that? And a cop? Yea, that is just going to be a recipe or disaster.
The thing that troubles me is that she did not NOTICE that the inside of her APARTMENT did not look the same? That’s a HARD pill to swallow.
Also the SMELL is going to be different. There is almost NO WAY she did not notice these things.
So she may have been under the effects of some drugs as well. In PDX, the rate that cops do drugs is VERY high. So I doubt they did a drug test on her. That would be a smoking gun. And it would have been faked anyway if it was positive.
And as much as we want to say we do not have bias. We do. We all do. I don’t like to admit it myself. But I do. And you can’t blame people for that. It has nothing to do with color or how a person looks. I’m sorry. We ALL need to be honest.
Here is a good example.
THere was a guy I met in jail. He was to drunk to realize he was in the WRONG HOUSE. So he broke in I think through the window and fell asleep on the couch.
THe young couple that lived there came in and found him sleeping on the couch. Tried to wake him up, but all he remembers saying is.. “Dude, I live here.. Okay whatever, you can stay,” Well, he got arrested, but.. No charges. The couple found it funny. All parties were white.
If the guy was black, this would not have ended the same way. We have to be honest about that. We have preconceived notions of danger. We see it all the time Black kids and their attitude to white people.
In fact all over the world, it is KNOWN that Black folks have a reputation for trouble. Its just an observable reality.
So would it have turned out the same? No. It would not have. Lets me explain this.
How many White women have openly gone out and killed black men? Yea. That’s not really a thing man..
So. if it DID happen in reverse? That would be a great Show on Day time TV, but for it to change a black officers threat of danger or awareness to it? Not likely.
In San Jose, a Asian man was shot in the back. He got 28 million. There is a good reason why. They are not known to be threats.
There is a good reason why I was the ONLY indian guy I saw in jail. And a GOOD reason why the cops enjoyed so MUCH to have me there…
Now Imagine a female cop pulling you over. YOUR SPIDEY SENSE IS ON HIGH ALERT!
So like it or not, we have prejudice to what a threat level of a perceived person is. May I remind you, who tried to go in your shop and try to start some s~~~. Who has been known to start riots? Same thing.
You just have to accept it. Monk make a great point about AWALT. See, none of us want to think this way. But we should not feel guilty about it.
For my sister & her busbankd for example, they look like the “Towel heads” skin color. So she mentions sometimes she feels uncomfortable. Well yea. Its not easy to tell a Hindu from a Muslim. If you ever want to see why India is in the way it is, it has a lot to do with this.
Hindu’s don’t really have a tendency to be violent, rape or kill you or blow you up. But Muslims? Not the same. It’s hard to tell with the men. But the women are easy to tell. Bright Colored clothes help. In the USA, you will see them wear plain clothes and just go under the radar. (again HASHTAG NOT ALL !!!!!!)
So many of us here are FRETTING the Muslims moving in here to the USA. We know all to well what you guys are just finding out. But here is the thing, MY mom new about this a LONG time ago. But.. ME? It was 9-11 for me. I was oblivious to it.
THe problem is, we are getting these HardCORE Muslim Imports. And as you see, they are not really people you want to have in any abundance. All I can tell you is MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE HISPANICS AROUND THEM. THey are your ONLY hope.
Like it or not, they are the only ones with a BACKBONE to put them in check. And I am serious. Unlike most Asians, that LOVE the west.. Their whole entire dogma is to despise you. Notice CHINA is not taking that s~~~ sitting down. You either keep them in line or they WILL DESTROY YOU. Hell, look at Pakistan and India. Its like a NEVER ending tug of war.
Being on the REAL outside being from FiJi, you wonder what’s wrong with these Indians and why they are so uptight. Like it or not, there are some real issues about some people and where they are from and how their politics & values differ from yours.
I’m not even to hot about Indians being pulled in WHOLESALE for the tech jobs here. Call me stupid, but MAN are Indian people BORING as F~~~! Ask my sister…. He’s from FiJi. But still. MR BORING! Cookie CUtter, etc.
I think that’s why COlin was a BIT taken back by me when we spoke on the phone. I don’t know if its just us from Fiji, but damn. We don’t LIKE to be around people like us. Maybe its just a trait of my mom, and sister and me, but we are the BLINK-182 Indians. We LOVE people. (not all… Some of you suck B~~~~ MAN!) My sister gets asked all the time why she is so different from others. She always takes time to point out.. “My brother raised me!”
Case in point. My sister won a free lasik. She brought in cookies and some other stuff to thank them for the Free Lasik she got. They offered her a job just seeing her. Did not have to go through any process, Just “Hey email me your resume when you can see , and she got hired the next time she walked in.
Its kind of a personality thing.
So.. Each group has something akin to them. Countries for example. (that’s changing sadly)
Bottom line, people who want to escape from that reputation move away from the pack. But as always.. there is always some c~~~ out there to ruin your day.
In the second video, you will notice that this women CALLED THE COPS on a GUY who lives there. Also, they WITHHELD who made the call. S~~~ like this HAPPENS ALL THE F~~~ING TIME!Or you could work for the former president.
Thing is, cops get it easy. Even after you load 16 shots into kid. 6.5 years. But as you can tell, he’s not going to have a very fun time.
Santa Clara. Boy I remember them! 20 cops. I was at work. Oh. Yea.. What was the call from a WOMAN? I WAS A DANGEROUS HACKER! But look. a 5 foot asian women. Hmmm.
Problem with texas? There is a LONG history of this.
And.. Like most people. Cops no longer have that reputation for being good. Even mayors are afraid of their police department.
FOrt worth.
Thankfully, there are some good honest people. But like Monk said. Not everyone is this way.
And I hate to say this, but cops are no longer going to have any good reputation ever again by anyone.
Ask yourself. Would you trust the cops again? I mean being arrested for this? THink about that?
And it made headlines.Now think about this.. SWAT comes to your house, cuz you have an OPEN WIFI NETWORK…
Or if you call them and you get shot and you happen to be the person who called, and the homeowner.
And in almost all of these.. WOMEN. WOMEN are the common link..
Oregon of course.
And its not just cops..
I mean look. Sometimes… A spade is just a spade.
And let me tell ya, the cops are Equal opportunity
And when you can’t be a real cop.. You can still act like one..
What we have really is a LAW enforcement problem. People simply are just not fit to be officers. We would be far better off with robots. People are just simply not cut out for law enforcement. And it does not help when they both act like buffoons.
But this one.. THIS I know ALL to well. The cops ENJOYS doing this..
And my opinion? Do you know who goes for the LEO jobs? The same people who have been victimized in these videos.
Ever wonder why so many Black cops have such a bad attitude? THink about that.
Like it or not, we are quickly heading towards destruction.
And I think everyone knows that.
We think just staying away from women is a good MGTOW plan. What about men?
Forget about the shots fired. Think about the fact that we still have a person saying “All good” the whole time. One of his own officers was almost shot. And he shot at a man opening his door for a weapon he never saw. For a weapon they never found? (Remember that one) But.. There could have still been a gun. Even AFTER all cops RAN SACKED HIS HOME..
This was not even a 9-11 call. In fact, this is one of the main reason why men gave up having a land line. Land lines are no longer safe. And cops? As much as I hate to say this, they simply need to be retired and replaced with robots.
And the Unions behind them? THESE people in them should never work for ANY organization that serves people ever again.
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The enormity of your posts iMickey, is strange. Sometimes I cant help but click on some of the videos.
LOL. That one with the Military guy pointing a guy at hippie kids. LOL. “Im on my property, get in the car!” LOL.There is never a shortage of freaking retarded sh!t like the Guyger case. You say 2 Years huh? For ending a man’s life like this? I have to agree with radical blacks that she deserves something worse, but I dont think a day over 5 Years in Prison is warranted…
Ive actually talked to level headed Black people I know about this case and EVEN THEY cant see it clearly. They are ALL convinced she knew the guy, was buying pot from him or sleeping with him or something… and that she flat out smoked his ass and is trying to get away with it. NO AMOUNT OF LOGIC is going to convince them that shes just plain dumb and made a mistake. They are hardwired to draw connections that dont exist…
Some of these videos are just too freaking funny.
So she may have been under the effects of some drugs as well. In PDX, the rate that cops do drugs is VERY high.
This is the only viable explanation.
OK, maybe I should have put a caveat in my statement.
Maybe a /sarc or /shrug or something just as inconsequential.I’m reasonably certain both “public” officials and “private” citizens are aware of the potential backlash by various “communities” if and when the courts pronounce the “wrong” verdict. IMHO it will be the wrong verdict regardless. (Because people are just like that, for a variety of reasons)
Part of the issue is the that major function of justice has been, and is being seen as failing.
1. Justice MUST be SEEN to have been served (by the affected victims and the community at large). NOT “justice must SEEM to have been served”This just hasn’t been happening as of late.
People (the victims/perps/nor communities) have not been served “justly” by the the Justice system because it is a legal system.
My comment above is my jaded outlook as in;
What ever the verdict the “legal system” desires, will be the outcome. The evidence will follow suit (made public) after the fact. As in the dead man attacked the “trespasser” in defense of his home (reasonable), and the “trespasser” shot the “attacker” in self defense (somewhat reasonable).
If the verdict is “manslaughter”, the victim will have every “defect/error/mistake” about him, his character, and his life, made public and held under a microscope- AKA truly blaming the victim.
Thereby causing discord (to put it mildly) within the larger community as a wholeThe difference between “manslaughter” and “murder” is huge by definition, and NOT synonymous. However most people dont know or recognize that distinction.
If the verdict is murder, the evidence will follow suit.
This too will cause “discord” in the larger community.
The perp has to be held to same level of “worth” as the victim, and held accountable for the outcome, that too has to be justified.The basics of this “case” are fairly simple. At issue in this particular instance is the perp “mistook” her neighbors apartment for hers.
How?
How the hell can anyone even slightly trained in “tactics”, weapons handling, basic law enforcement, AND Rules of Engagement mistake his or her “HOME environment” for an unknown environment?
Even when people play video games, they look for unfamiliar in the familiar as warning triggers. Not the other way around.
That will be the nail any thinking person will hammer on.
One could argue the points endlessly, however if it is determined that this LEO was not in control of her faculties (aware of her surroundings) at the time of contact. That will lead to other issues for the courts, city, and community to answer and justify.
IMHO
Taking into special consideration the ethnicity, gender, sexual preference, socio/economic standing, education, political stance, or every and any other factor has led to a distrust in “justice” systems due to lesser “punishments” for the same or similar or worse CRIMES. This is the problem, and the expected negative results.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
She dont look too happy. I imagine Negligent Homicide will put a few wrinkles on your face.
How the hell can anyone even slightly trained in “tactics”, weapons handling, basic law enforcement, AND Rules of Engagement mistake his or her “HOME environment” for an unknown environment?
I think you underestimate how clumsy and airheaded women are. LOL
The prosecutors are going to botch this case completely. They keep going on about how she was distracted by sexts with a fellow officer that night. Um, are the prosecutors trying to “Defend” her absent minded mistake?! LOL. They are supposed to be trying her for MURDER, not a clumsy oops. They are supposed to be showing evidence that she meant to kill him. If they continue WITH NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE, then Guyger is going to get off… Jeez, considering the Prosecution is grasping at thin air, I would not rule out that they will accidentally fvck up the paperwork and get this whole case Dismissed!!! Oops!
So she walks free with NO PUNISHMENT at all. LOL. Honestly, I dont give a sh!t how it turns out. The entire thing is a CIRCUS full of clown freak lawyers providing daily amusement. And when it is all over, it will be even more funny to watch cop cars set on fire and businesses looted.
She should already be done with 1 year of a 5 year Prison Term for Manslaughter. This shouldnt of ever been a Jury trial. The DA should have done their fvcking job last year and railroaded this bitch into Prison ASAP instead of dragging it out into a 2 year long insanity festival, wasting tax payers and business owners time and money…
The prosecutors are going to botch this case completely.
Well they are working quiet hard at that.
Again, looking into special considerations displays to the public at large that “justice” will not be served for the greater good.
Do all police officers in the U.S.A in general and Dallas in particular have 24/7/365 open and concealed carry permits? If so, why?
Gun laws are a tad different up here, so that is a legitimate question.
Can they not “downgrade” the charge to “manslaughter” or “negligent homicide”. Murder has the distinction of an unlawful PREMEDITATED act/plan in ending the life of another.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Damn. Just looking at her makes me feel sorry for her. Where is Carnage when you need him.. Monk does not give strong enough Scripts for Red PIlls.
So she may have been under the effects of some drugs as well. In PDX, the rate that cops do drugs is VERY high.
This is the only viable explanation.
Imagine being at a job you hate. People hate you. You hate being at work. You have S~~~Y people you see each day. No one is glad to see you. And your only hope is to f~~~ other cops. Think about that. You can’t Monkey Branch. (no s~~~) The COP life is not a great one for a women and her Hypergamy. It just stop cold there.
SO.. What are you going to do? Are you not going to have a FEW beers before you go home? Take a few pills to help ease the day?
Again, WALK in their SHOES. Women were never made to be cops. They can Barely handle their own kids. How the f~~~ is this going to to work?
SHE is NOT going to tell the truth. THe TRUTH is not REWARDED. WE REWARD LIARS!
Cops are suppose to be held to a HIGHER standard. But when you lower them? What do you expect?
Our Law ENforcement become political tools. You GET what you PAY FOR.
I am the LAST person to EVER support an LEO. But EVEN ME.. MR BEAT UP BY COPS.. Says.. This was Bound to happen. And those folks that RIOT? They prove everyone’s stereotype & points each and every day.
All of this is engineered. Chaos leads to more bigger and larger government. These people are getting what they are begging for.
Sometimes gentleman, you need to understand, this is for the PLEBS. Let the STUPID SUFFER. We MGTOW men have our OWN lives to worry about. F~~~ their noise. WE PROTECT OURSELVES FIRST. If you don’t want women to kill you, stay away from them.
If you don’t want to worry about dirty cops? Do what they did up in Washington. Not even the Feds will go up there.. 🙂
This society is not our problem. THey chose their god.
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So they convicted Amber Guyger of murder. For those that want to know, the Jury was mostly women and mostly color.
Sentencing will supposedly occur later today, anything between 5 and 99 years
So apparently, they never were able to prove that she ever knew the guy; like she never bought pot from the guy, she never fvcked the guy, they never met at the pool or anything… So Im not quite sure how they got her for “MURDER” instead of Manslaughter (which I found out, the Jury COULD HAVE just went with Manslaughter in their verdict. The law allowed for them to go with manslaughter).
The Jury was emotionally compromised in my opinion because there was nothing to suggest beyond a reasonable doubt, that she had any preconceived issues with the victim. She didnt know him. They had no quarrel or previous dealings of any nature. So her story, of straight up making the most grave and totally absent minded mistake ever, checks out. Why else would you walk into a stranger’s house and just shoot them to death for no reason? No one would do that. There was no motive to kill. The intent to kill is arguable, based on fear, training and mistaken context.
Anyway… I would have gone with 5 Years in Prison anyway, a real 5 years, not parole. So its still possible she gets that sentence, just that it will be for “murder” instead.
When I think of murder. I think premeditation. Isnt that the difference between accidentally killing someone, and contemplating it prior? Like say if you catch you wife cheating, and in the heat of the moment, you shoot her. That is murder, emotions or not, you deliberated right then and there. (maybe you get off for temporary insanity lol). But its obvious that you had a clear motive, she cheated on you!
But Amber Guyger didnt have a clear line of premeditation at all. She did not know this man. And if it had crossed her mind at all, that she was in the wrong, she wouldnt of shot a guy in his own home DUH! I think her defense was legit and that this was a very unfortunate tragedy. I strongly believe Murder was the wrong verdict. However, I do believe 5 to 10 years, for the most heinous manslaughter I have ever heard of, is MORE than appropriate. 10 years is a LONG ASS time in prison.
I honestly thought that a jury of women would empathize with the obvious regret and remorse that Amber genuinely conveyed. There is not doubt in my mind it was an accident (and I have very little sympathy for police or women but holy crap dude, this was obviously a tragic accident … yes, she is a dumb blond. Yes, she shouldnt of ever been allowed to have a firearm (or be a cop for that matter) … but did she murder someone or accidentally slaughter them?
I said it last year about her, when it very first happened and she was able to make bail, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE AMBER? Id f hightailed it to central america. Now she is facing LIFE possibly. We will know soon
If my downstairs neighbor walked into my condo by accident, shot at me and missed, I’d hope he’d get more than 5 years in jail, let alone if he hit me and killed me. I wouldn’t even care what his excuse was, people that are that much of a threat to innocent lives belong behind bars.
anything over 10 or 20 is total bullsht imho but hey, many innocent men have served longer… she is very stupid, cant deny that. That Bothem kid should be alive and well today.
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