Guilty at accusation, Guilty during due process, Guilty after acquital.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Thanks to Andy Man for getting a few gears working in my mind, by way of his thread “New rape laws in the uk”

/forums/topic/new-rape-laws-in-the-uk/

I was going to post my thoughts in his thread, but I didn’t want to hijack his thread, or thoughts with too big of a segue.

I’m almost at the point where I’d wear a hidden camera on my clothing.

I’m lucky in that when I’m at work, I NEVER deal with a female fellow employee in private behind a closed door.   I deal with them with another witness in the room, or out on the floor, with plenty of witnesses.

Regarding my side-business, I don’t have women in my employ, so I don’t have worries of accusations there.  Over the years, I gave women a fair shake in the beginning.  I actually did treat the process of hiring equally.  I treated the division of work equally.  I treated advancement based on merit equally.  This was before my divorce, and before I had all I could take of feminist Indictronation/Indoctrination, particularly in Canada.  I had several women friends at the time; professionally, musically, and plain old friendly.  Ironically, it took women to destroy my opinion of women,  Women from my family, women from my career, women from friendships, and not least, women who were my significant other.  At any rate, I gave woman after woman a chance to be successful, purely of her own merit.  It was highly disappointing, and I watched each and every one of them try to undermine things in order to get to the top.  Oddly enough, in the workplace, they were the absolute worst to other women.  I couldn’t believe how quickly they would throw their own kind under the bus to be the center of attention, and to place themselves in a position of sycophancy.  Statistically speaking, treating women equally in my own entrepreneurial was a total f~~~ing waste of time.  I had ONE woman over the period of 8 years prove to be a great employee.  She was an exceptionally hard worker, and had no use for attention.  She was a rough old Newfie, and a kick-ass worker.  It was working with another venemous woman that caused her to leave my employ.

 
<p class=”western”>AndyMan’s post took me back.  I might sound overly paranoid, but this issue really took me back to an incident in university years ago.  There was a highly reputable, and I might add absolutely excellent male professor in one of my fields of study.  He was an extremely meek, mild-mannered man, with an intellect that I could only hope to possess.  I’m a pretty smart fellow, but nothing approaching genius.  This fellow was one of the off-the charts dudes; you could just tell.  His mind worked so damn quickly that he was constantly all over the place.  I’ll never forget attending a lecture, and he was outside at break having a smoke, which he bummed off of me.  He had this little damn piece of bubblegum stuck in his nose hair.  I didn’t want to say anything about it to him, as he was on what he always called a “virtual discussion on a media-extravaganza”.  I still have no idea what the hell this guy was ever talking about, but he was a very studied and respected man in more than one field.  Anyway, two days later, I turned a paper in to him, and that frigging piece of gum was still in his nostril hair. LOL.  One of those guys with absolutely no concept of physical awareness; totally f***** up hair, some sweater that might well have been knit for him by his grandmother ten years earlier hahahaha.  He was existing on some other plane lol.</p>
 

Anyway, I digress.  This man was charged with sexually assaulting a graduate student, while spending extra evening hours with her; mentoring her, giving of his own free time, considerable experience, and his wealth of both academic knowledge and knowledge accrued of his own accord.  This went on for quite some time, and with the feminist movement being in very high gear at the time in Ontario, he was threatened, suspended, and sustained very real permanent psychological, physiological, and no doubt spiritual damage during the process.

In the end, the story was finally blown wide open with tangible evidence brought forth by others in his defense (not all male either), as well as from himself.

It turned out that she stopped showing up for mentoring (not due to reasons of poor health, crisis etc.  She simply found it too difficult).  After a period of time, and when nearing time for graduation, she approached him and offered him sex in return for receiving her Master’s degree.  He turned her down (this poor bastard had probably never been laid, and with his ginormous watermelon head, I doubt he was even preoccupied with it.  Too busy thinking in dimensions).  Because she had been rebuked by him, she went on an absolutely premeditated campaign of destroying and smearing him.

What I found to be disappointing about this?  When this man’s name was cleared, the story was almost INSTANTLY relegated to the back pages of news.  They (feminazis combined with feminazi controlled media) didn’t mind smearing this man through the mud for nine months, but they most certainly didn’t have an ounce of fortitude or morality to then spend at least a SMALL AMOUNT of time in making sure that people knew he wasn’t the monster which he had been made out to be.  Even though this fellow had been cleared, he’d been so damaged by the process that he didn’t return to his tenure.

Just writing about this is making my blood boil.  Magically when I look around the Internet, there is very very little information on it.  Of course, her f******* name is no where to be found.  There should have been an absolutely massive punishment for this woman.  Now that I’ve brought it up, and I’m done working for the day, I do believe I’ll spend some time raking the internet for some solid old information on this, so we can put some concrete data out on this.

I don’t know how I’m going to do it yet, but I’d like to have a column, or some type of static communication method of displaying these types of offenders so that they are NOT forgotten.  Women LOVE to shame.  It’s time for their transgressions to be written in stone for all to read, and not be edited out of mainstream, or any type of media, due to the incessant control of c~~~-munication by the nazis.

They don’t mind branding the hell out of a man who’s committed sin, and continuing to ruin his life long after he’s paid the price.  I of course am not talking about the real pieces of s*** out there.  Child molesters, true rapists and truly violent offenders do not have my pity, by any stretch of the imagination.  These are the types I have zero tolerance for.

Time for some of these “fairer-sex” pieces of sh** to be immortalized.  While I am sure there are a great many gents out there doing such a thing; guys far smarter than myself, but the more exposure the better.  It’s not like I’m putting forth an original idea here.  I’m just trying to think of a successful way to approach it.

Thoughts and suggestions fellows on how to do so guys?  I’m going to grind my gears a bit today and dig up some information on this past event.  Really got my blood boiling, remembering what this very valid contributor to the scientific community endured, and probably still does.  Once you get branded of such a thing, you don’t even have to be guilty.  They keep perpetrating the crime against an individual through the sheer stigma of crimes deemed to be heinous.

You’re guilty before due process, during the process, and even AFTER being acquitted.

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There were several similar incidents over the years here in Canada.

 

In the mid-’90s, a swimming coach at Simon Fraser University was accused of unseemly behaviour by one female team member.  This was investigated and went on for several years, as I remember.  Eventually, he was acquitted of the allegations.  His accuser was let off the hook, but eventually it was revealed that she had some emotional disorder.  Meanwhile, the poor man’s reputation had been trashed and, I think, he was suspended for the duration.  I do believe, though, he eventually got his job back, but I don’t remember what happened after that.

 

 

[casqueteroParticipant 85]

I had been working in the education field for a few years now (yes, I’m a teacher) and it is the easiest field to get trashed by women. It simply takes an “I don’t like how he looks at me.” comment to destroy your reputation – both as a man and as a professional. It does not matter if it is proven the girl is obviously lying – your career is basically over.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I read a quote recently that pretty much sums it up. I can’t recall it word for word, but what it basically said is that the crime of rape/sexual misconduct now has achieved such superstar status that not even innocence of it is an adequate defense to its accusation. That’s about where we are now.

I agree that there should be some permanent record of the identity of a false accuser. I would support having one here on mgtow. I think that if there are not going to be criminal charges filed against a woman who files a false police report, there should at least be something that shows up on a routine internet background check. Perhaps a list on mgtow would serve that purpose?

I can remember Tawana Brawley who made accusations about cops kidnapping and raping her…turned out to be totally made up. There was the girl who accused that lacrosse team of gang raping her… turned out to be a stripper with zero credibility. There was this most recent bitch who made up that crap about the fraternity in order to get herself published in Rolling Stone… later turned out to be bulls~~~ and Rolling Stone issued apology to its readers. I can’t remember if they issued apology to the fraternity. Probably not.)

Society is not going to impose any consequences on any of these women. But it would be nice if some poor schmo who was considering hiring or dating one of these women could be able to know this about them before getting involved and putting himself at risk.

If sex offenders have to register for a website. Shouldn’t false accusers of sex offenders also have a similarly discoverable website…?

Perhaps key master would consider dedicating a page here???

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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Caquetero:

 

One thing I found out while I taught in the post-secondary system:  whoever flings the mud first, wins.  Even if one is cleared of the allegations, there will always be a trace of doubt that they might actually be true.  That poor person will be punished, regardless.

 

[VidarParticipant 15]

This makes me so goddamn sad.. And stories like this (and they exists where i from too) is exactly the reason im here.
Its such a waste of potential and all in the name of some useless skank’s feeewings. It takes just ONE women pointing at you and your life is done. The media, the whiteknights, her crazed feminazi friends.. They will all be there with pitchforks and torches. Making sure your reputation is f~~~ing gang raped well before any actual police investigation, never mind court ruling. Its anarchy.

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

I just did a Google search, there are s~~~ loads of existing articles. It appears that some US news outlets actually use categories for filing stories and “False Accusations” is one of the categories.

They may not all produce images of the false accusers but if between us we can define the type of information to be published, I am happy  to do some grunt work finding info, then all we need is someone to put that info online somewhere.

https://www.google.com.au/#q=News+articles+of+false+accusations

Maybe it should be called “The MGTOW Wall of Shame”?

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

[jambearParticipant 282]

This is an absolutely brilliant idea. I think if we had a page where could collect these stories into one place. Have a wall of shame where we would expose the woman who ruin the lives of good men. KeyMaster I would completely on board in offering what ever help I could to help make this a reality.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

@Quarter Wave Vertical.   Thank you QWV.  That one does sound very familiar actually.  There was a rash of such incidents in the 90’s in Ontario.  A complete band wagon of it.  I remember it well, and remember the rash of hatred which came to the forefront of media and popular culture during that decade.  It was around then, for me anyway, that things entered into the realm of “Surreal”.  Feminists began re-defining every word they could think of, and expanded the definitions to such proportions that it really did spell insanity, and gave license to women to behave in any fashion they pleased, without fear of accountability.  It’s not that they hadn’t been doing it prior to those years; there just seemed to be a massive embrace of this type of thinking.  I have no idea if it was that way everywhere, but Ontario (and yes, especially southern Ontario: Toronto, Ottawa etc.) and Quebec really began forcing their policies on a national crowd.

@ Casquetero.  Thanks for your thoughts, sir.  My hat goes off to you.  I think people, particularly men, who choose careers in education as teachers are some of the most honourable people around.  At times, that must feel like such a thankless job, and somehow, you guys keep on keeping on.  The barrage of politics that teachers have to endure is just beyond my ability to cope.  Guys like you show a level of personal bravery, commitment and patience that is very uncommon in my mind.

@ Brain Pilot.  “I read a quote recently that pretty much sums it up. I can’t recall it word for word, but what it basically said is that the crime of rape/sexual misconduct now has achieved such superstar status that not even innocence of it is an adequate defense to its accusation. That’s about where we are now.”.  Very well said.  I find it remarkable that there is constant uproar about the violation of one’s (women’s) personal rights, freedoms and expressions, yet the same can not be said for the utter and complete destruction of one’s (men’s) career, well-being and financial security for the simple sake of gaining attention.  Again, I don’t speak of women who have truly been the victim of pure sexual violence.  I’m talking about the ones who come forward with false allegations; after the complete destruction of an innocent man’s life.  It is almost immediately swept under the carpet so as not to smear the current view of women in our society.  I think your idea of a registry for such offenders really is something that should come to fruition.

@vidar.  Yes.  Feminism loves a mob-mentality when the opportunity exists to undermine a man.  However, they will blame the existence of a mob-mentality on the masculine entity, and present it as a childish, cavemannish enterprise when it does not suit their own needs.  They will actually do this, while standing in a mob, screaming for blood, and holding signs.

@aussiebloke.  Hell yeah, man.  I’ve been googling away and am finding a significant amount of information.  What I find disturbing is that so much of it is pretty recent.  So many of the cases that I remember seem to have disappeared, or tend to be fairly buried out there in Netland.  The information will be out there somewhere though.  The current politics of so many of our respective nations have it in their best interests to keep these things under wraps, but I think the goal of preserving the offense is attainable.  I think it will require a fair amount of research to dig up past transgression, but it’s out there.  I wonder how quickly these current stories will be erased from the societal mind.

@

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

@jambear.  Damn straight.  Accountability is NIL for these parasites.  When such allegations are found to be fraudulent, there is no follow-up, and all too often, the perpetrator simply resorts to claiming some form of trauma (from an incident that doesn’t even exist!!!), or some form of mental instability.  Then they proceed to live their lives as if nothing has happened.  First, it’s important that it’s known that there character is such that they would destroy another human being without any thought.  Second, if they are truly so mentally unstable that they would do such a thing, then they really shouldn’t be moving along through life so easily, taking positions of consequence and importance in our society, while claiming to be unfit to do so.

[jambearParticipant 282]

Thanks WillyT73.

Holy crap my grammar sucked in my post, it must be to early in the morning to be thinking this hard. I can barely understand what was written and I am the one who wrote it. -_-

One of the arguments I most often hear is “not all woman are like that” or ” you are making s~~~ up”. It would be incredibly convenient to have one place where a ton of stories were collected from new sources of men who have been wrongly accused of rape, molestation, assault and what not. Then I could bring them up and show whoever, here look at what these woman have done, they ruined this man’s life and nothing happened to the, is that fair? It would be a great resource to have and I would love to help set it up.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

@jambear

Right on, jambear.  You’ve very succinctly summed up precisely what I’m getting at!  My grammar is hurting this morning as well.  I had a work accident not too long ago, and am still recovering.  Percocet is my Dr’s painkiller of choice, and it really messes with my head in that I have a hard time getting my thoughts out there in a clearly organized fashion.  It messes with my head during work hours.  I’m glad that I’m self-employed at the moment.  I was laid off yesterday; the price of oil at the moment is murdering the industry in which I pursue my full-time job.  I’m glad I can fall back on my own endeavours, but find my thought process to be struggling a bit.  I appreciate you summarizing exactly what I’m trying to get at.

Women’s groups, movements, and “special interest” collectives absolutely love to speak in generalities; when confronted they conveniently seize upon specific heinous crimes committed by specific men; at which point they try their best to present them again in a generalized fashion so as to make the entire male gender accountable.  I would much rather deal in specificity.  Present real, credible instances which have occurred, and have been fully processed through the legal system, complete with admission of guilt (if that’s even possible with the sort of person who tries to deflect accountability, even when their own admission and credible evidence has sealed the case).

Another classic example would have occurred here in Canada in the 90’s or early double-oughts.  I am racking my brain, and searching the Internet for the case, and am having a difficult time tracking the case down.  I’ll persevere and find it, but it would appear to be fairly buried.  I’m pretty sure it occurred in Saskatchewan, Canada.  If not, it’s certainly one of the prairie provinces (Manitoba, Saskatchewan or Alberta).  A police officer picked up two women hitchhikers in order to give them a ride, and get them off the highway for their own safety.  These two women, lovers, slit the officer’s throat from behind while he was driving.  The very moment that the case began to be prosecuted, the perpetrators immediately fell back on the horrible childhood which they suffered at the hands of men. Men. Not a specific man, who had committed a specific crime, but men. Again, this was a case where it was phrased in such a way that these women were not dealing in specificity.  It was enough to just say that MEN as a whole had corrupted their childhood, and therefore any MAN deserved to be punished for it. The media had an absolute frigging party with making all men responsible for two lesbians slitting the throat of a peace officer.

Could you, in theory imagine how the following would be received by the public:

A young man with a domineering, psychologically and emotionally abusive mother and sisters (who are also a product of their mother) decides one day that he is going to shoot a female police officer.  When arrested, he claims that due to his traumatic experiences as a child, he killed this peace officer.  Using generality, I’m almost certain that feminists would first defend the mother in such a way as to say that “She was a product of the matriarchy, and therefore treated her children in a dysfunctional and codependent manner due to her experiences with men”.  Then, they would claim that his sisters had absolutely no impact on the situation, because they were a product of the mother, who was a product of misogyny and the patriarchy.  Then they would bring the circle of guilt full force back on to the man, saying that he was a woman-hater who willingly engaged in perpetrating this crime and should be held accountable.  At which point he would be and SHOULD be held fully accountable for his actions.  We are all responsible for our actions.

The latter statement couldn’t be less true.  In the UK, as pointed out in another thread, half of the women in prison should just be released, on the grounds that they are women according to those who hold power in the justice system.  Because they are women.  There is an ACTUAL public statement being made, in all of it’s asinine glory that it is fully acceptable for women to make transgressions, because they are a woman. 

As I type such things, the adage that “truth is stranger than fiction” is not even sufficient to describe such absurdity.  There are numbers of men behind bars, for extended periods of time, in squalid conditions for committing crimes such as not paying child support to women who aren’t even the mother of their child.

Again, I’m even clouding the issue as I digress.

There needs to be accountability.  So many governments are pushing a healthy serving of accountability straight back on tho the plates of men, even when the crime is being directly and absolutely committed by a woman.

When publishing and preserving completed cases of women’s crimes, there will undoubtedly by an instant outcry from the feminist community.  This will be reinforced with shaming tactics and direct insults to the male victims of crime.  They will abuse the victim further so as to actually protect the guilty in their midst, as it frightens them to think that they are capable of such crime.  Since they operate on a herd mentality, this blame hits too close for comfort in that they have to admit that women are fully capable of crime through their own devices, and that they do not commit such things simply because….well….men.

I do not see anything wrong at all. with re-reporting that which has occurred and has already been reported upon; only to be swept under the carpet by feminized media and government influence.  Men’s crimes are immortalized.  Women’s are simply treated as a product of a generalization of men, and then being ushered out of the eye of scrutiny so as to perpetuate the demands and views of an absolute cult and Marxist entity.

If they truly want an equal piece of the goddamned pie, they can chew on a few apples that are rotten.  I don’t want anyone’s “seconds”.

It blows my mind that they wish to enjoy all the fruits of a just society, while not having to take out their own trash.  The ideology of the feminist is at best, a child’s thoughts.

 

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

Hey All, I have spent a lifetime in and around the military, so if I seem persistent on issue of getting this “Wall of Shame” resource to happen, it’s because Military people are by and large trained to act more than to talk. (I mean no disrespect to those that are making comments here, the thought processes about it are probably more important to be honest, IE what it looks like, what is included/excluded, legal ramifications, accessibility etc).

Having said all that, I work in IT, so I was thinking that if this this is supported by the website owners, I could put together a simple spreadsheet or csv file containing the raw data which would help to automate getting it into whatever database or framework they decide to use.

 

Cheers

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Perhaps key master would consider dedicating a page here???

Brain Pilot. Excellent idea. It should be called something clever and have a cutting angle. A “database” of women who prove male innocence. You know that website “don’t date him girl”?? Like that, but much more damaging. Reputation-detroying. Rendering them unemployable. Permanently. Something like “do you know any women who cried false rape or sexual harassment?? Report everything you know about her here….”

We will get on that. Add your thoughts here.

Since the GoPro Camera I have installed one at home and in my car. +2 of those nearly invisible cameras you can pick up at the Apple store for $90. Even if I am in an elevator alone with a female I press Record on my phone. No matter who she is, she will never get away with s~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Hats off to key-master, video, or be Damned! Do you remember that PIG from Fall River Massachusetts that let all those guys f~~~ her, then cried rape! That case cost a fortune! Another “WALL” could exist for the men released from prison; how much time they lost? how much incarceration cost? and the trial costs?,,,, I’ll bet those stats will make your b~~~~ shrivel, with a good case of turtle dick….

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“The Wall of Shame” is very good.

@aussie bloke. Yes if you have a CSV table of names and cases. We could start the wall with those. Email us about this if you want. That would be brilliant.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

Doing some work on the spreadsheet/csv file for the wall of shame, only early at this stage but as a guide 12 cases from the first Google search page, many,many, many more to go.

I thought I would also post this link below, some interesting insights into what motivates these false allegations etc.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/the_anatomy_of_false_accusations_a_skeptical_case_study/

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I got almost nothing in the way of technical expertise in IT to offer (sorry) but I can offer this one more suggestion. Whatever is necessary to do technically with this wall of shame, that will allow an ordinary google search of a woman’s name who has made false rape charges to bring it up in results, should be done. If her name exists on any page of this website, and includes a link to published news reports about what she’s done, no one can fault this website for ‘victimizing her’ by keeping her accountable for what she’s done. In this scenario, all this site will have done will be to have linked one webpage on one site to another published (newspaper) page on another site.

The other thing it will accomplish, of course, is that it will create a trail that will follow them for life anytime they go to get a new job, boyfriend rental contract etc… Newspaper articles may become so old some day that they stop turning up immediately on google searches…??? (someone with more technical experience than me regarding that can comment more specifically her) but if there was some mechanism from this site that kept current the google search results of a false accuser’s name, it would create forever accountability… exactly the way a real offense by a real sex offender follows them forever from that sex offender data base (as it should for all real offenders).

It would be a nice benefit for any member of mgtow to be able to check any new woman he works with, rents to or from, considers dating, hiring etc… to be able to bounce that woman’s name off the mgtow wall of shame and know immediately if she’d ever pulled some crap like this…no matter how far back it may have been.

This idea was inspired by the reaction to the formation of a medical malpractice database. This database keeps a list of every American doctor who’s ever been sued for malpractice, regardless of wether it was a bulls~~~ suit or not. You got sued, you’re in the database…forever. Once it was set up and started compiling these names, some doctors got together and decided to set up another database. The second data base was a list of all the people who’d ever filed a medical malpractice suit. (there is a way to track this through the public records of the courts).

If a doctor gets a new patient, he can check that patient’s name against the database and if that name appears, investigate the details of the claim they made and he can choose to decline to be their doctor, or not. Beauty of it is that EVERYONE gets held to the same standard of public accountability for their claims and actions.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

BrainPilot, I am currently working only from news articles, the database will contain a url link to each article, that “Should” bypass any aging issues for Google searches. As far as I can see, there are hundreds of cases just in the news (not all relate to sexual assault or rape though). Also a number of them are from school kids who cannot be named etc. There are more issues than i originally considered, but I’m trying to work them out on the fly.

I will want someone to “VET” the list as some cases may not be appropriate to the intent.

As it is, the news articles are time consuming to read through as the selected info that I am compiling is spread throughout each article and I have to read almost the entire thing to get it all. After that I will need to go to court documents, this will no doubt prove more difficult, this will be something of a project, and as usual I volunteered having not really considered the scope of the task. LOL. List is currently only 16 strong but climbing steadily.

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

Just as another thought, Maybe the initial list does not have to be huge, but rather act as a “seed” to compel victims to add their False Accusers to the list, it depends how we want to propagate it.

Headings for the content are as follows:

Category
Incident Year
Reporting Year
Accuser
Region/Location
Accused
Case Details
Damage Caused
Outcome
C~~~ Score
Source
Source Link

Feedback on all this will be important going forward.

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

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