Growing Old Together

[PlatoParticipant 48]

I see older couples all the time. It’s easy to see some have been together for 50+ years. In a way, I’m jealous. In a way, I wish that was me. I see, and can feel the love. I believe tho, it’s rare. Through out history, men get poisened, get killed, get divorced. Or the woman moves on and leaves the man.  Yes men also leave their woman. Sometimes for the secretary at work.

Yes, I’d like to start a new relationship, but, I cannot ever again, let a woman move in with me. I can not even let them sleep over, as I know, they are nosey, and be in my crap while I was asleep. Sadly, you can love them, but you cant’ trust them.

I believe this is just a womans DNA. ie a females nature. I suppose I am stuck for the moment. Or perhaps, totally free. As I also see long time married men asking their wifes for permission to even “hang with me”. Perhaps being “pussy whipped” is part of the “growing old together” thing.

Or perhaps, it’s way past time to go “old school”. Men have been taught in Western Society that “woman are equal”. Perhaps they are NOT. Perhaps they NOW have to be led by men, like in some cultures you now see on TV. Perhaps “old school” is correct. Hell, the Amish believe it. The Mennonites believe it. It does work.

I am not, nor ever preaching. Just “food for thought”

 

 

 

[AFTParticipant 2726]

Yes that loving relationship is a lovely sentimental fantasy, of a bygone era. It’s a different world, no fault divorce, feminism, women’s rights, and gynocentric family courts means happily ever after ain’t gonna happen, if it ever did in the past, which I am skeptical of.
But when you say “old school”, real old school, you put yourself first and live the best you can, don’t buy the cow, when all you want is a glass of milk.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[MOWsince95Participant 1446]

Way back when, women no doubt messed with men’s heads too, but they also knew that if they overplayed their bulls~~~ they would be discarded by society and laughed out of the villages and towns.  They needed to actually be decent human beings in order to retain a decent guy, and they were willing to do so.  As a teen I asked my mother once how she knew she loved my dad enough to marry him, and she said she didn’t love him at first (that came later) but she knew he was a good person who would be a good family man.  My dad said about the same regarding my mom, and they are still together today and sweet as hell.  That fits a lot of the mold about their era.

Today’s women don’t believe they need a decent man.  (1) They can rip money out of Uncle Sam to pay for their litter of brats if need be, (2) they are not in towns any more but anonymous cities where they can be bitches and no one knows when they move to the next block, (3) the laws and media have become so perversely anti-male that they can cut a man’s dick off and put it in a disposal and he is at fault, (4) they can accuse a guy of anything at all and he is automatically guilty of it with a permanent blackmark on his record, (5) everything – magazines, TV, radio, internet – they are exposed to tells them men are s~~~ and to be exploited and f~~~ed over, and (6) to a large degree they have a pussified male population to abuse the hell out of.

I actually believe women were equal in prior society.  They flipped that table and with it f~~~ed up society, so all a real man can do now is step aside and let the s~~~ rot and collapse.  There is actually nothing in it for us to change the world – in fact it is against our interests to try – so just step aside, watch the s~~~show, listen to them all bitch, get a laugh, and do what’s best for you.

And today, my own father, despite his very nice, sweet, happy, and long marriage to my mother, would be the first to tell you that in modern society a guy would be crazy to not just f~~~ away whatever he can and avoid getting involved with today’s bitches.  I know because he has told me precisely that. Old men have seen it all and know WTF they are talking about.

 

If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

it’s the situation where you only see the success stories.  how many couples, that started the same time as the old couple you saw, failed?  it’s like when a survivor of a kidney transplant talks about how god performs miracles but the 80% who didn’t survive the procedure aren’t around to say god doesn’t do s~~~.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[RedHeadedStrangerParticipant 204]

growing old together is overrated.  in the end, you end up either changing their diapers, or they change yours.  I personally would rather have some feminized, liberated, twenty-something, single mom of 3 to wipe the s~~~ off my old ass, than my wife of 50 years.

It’s a matter of dignity.~

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Ask most old couples and they will say it’s hard work and most will say one or both ‘got up to something’ at some point during their marriage.

I don’t think they’re really really happy, just making the best of it.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

This concept was first placed within our brains by society. Human beings are not inherently meant to have life long partners. Very few species actually mate for life. The “romantic” idea of mating for life is the concept that someone can love you unconditionally. It feels nice to know that you are finally good enough and your life is complete. But, this will never exist. There are always conditions. It also makes a s~~~ ton of money.

Now a society that reinforces certain ideals creates advantageous life long relationships. Which benefit both sexes. Our society does not. Currently the conditions of life long pair bonding has become not worth it for males.

Men and women are not equal. They are different. Just as all men are not created equal.

 

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[BONEParticipant 448]

ILiveAgain wrote:

I don’t think they’re really really happy, just making the best of it.

That’s exactly what it is, I used to work as a cashier and more couples than I can count would say “we’re just making the best of it” what the hell does that even mean? Don’t get it twisted people, most of these couples that “grow old together” can’t stand each other guts and deep down inside she probably can’t wait until he passes away so she can get that widow money, I call those women deathbed riders.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I won’t lie – there is a part of me that would like to have a proper old fashioned relationship like my parents and grandparents but as others have said those days are gone. From my own experience and from everyone I see around me it is a nightmare these days and I’d rather spend my time doing what I want rather than doing what she wants and then getting screwed over anyway

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Growing old together and doing the same routine day in and day out, sounds like motivation for ending your life or getting the f~~~ out of that marriage. No reason to get old and look back and realize you p~~~ed away most of your life fulfilling a role that society expects.

I think these baby-boomer long term relationships were much more easily facilitated given the culture these people grew up in (greater societal pressure). As things change I see the women of the current generation not being nearly as suited for the long haul, especially with the government willing to back them financially via the welfare state, along with the sympathy society shows in greater abundance towards women who have fallen on “hard times”. Men are just expected to suck it up and deal with it, anything less gets you labeled as a failure and a loser.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Plato wrote:

I see older couples all the time. It’s easy to see some have been together for 50+ years. In a way, I’m jealous. In a way, I wish that was me.

I did too, once upon a time. I found it liberating to discard that notion. It took me too long, but life’s lessons and my rational mind finally won out.

uchibenkei wrote:

it’s the situation where you only see the success stories.  how many couples, that started the same time as the old couple you saw, failed?

Both still married and happy: maybe 5%. The other 95% are divorced or married and in a living hell.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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