Greetings to all.

[liventhedreamParticipant 42]

I have been following MGTOW for a while as I have the same history as most of the other members here. I just wanted to share my story:

I used to blame my lack of women in life was due soly too a fused neck (I had a rare form of arthritis hit me when I was 16), but by all accounts I would and still am considered fairly decent looking.

This has led to a very rocky emotional path for me, as I may have faired well on dating sites but upon meeting was automatically dismissed (this happens 95% of the time). Mind you, I am a successful and have always been ahead of the curve salary wise, well dressed/groomed, good personality, all the things women claim to want (just a neck that’s fused).  It never mattered how expensive or nice the date was.

My fist real MGTOW moment was a date I had year ago, this girl claimed to be an intellectual, smart, blah. We met and she was one of those horrible good looking monster women that have hearts of coal. She was half way lit when I got there, we went to a bar, where she told me (so everyone could hear she “wasn’t sleeping with me tonight”), farted once…..Words just can’t describe, and she was good looking. Just a complete brat, when we got outside she said “you know, im not attracted to you” (of course after I paid for the whole meal and drinks and drove her drunk ass up there). That’s when I snapped. I said I would be back, and just left her ass there.

And now a year later after walking away from that horrible date I haven’t stopped walking. I feel I am a healthy man and feel much better for it. The stories here have encouraged me, seeing men of even more advantage having the same problems has left me not quite as isolated as I once felt.  No more free dinners, no more pandering to their bulls~~~, no more!

So hello brothers!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Great move leaving her there. Welcome LiveTheDream!

I was digging your avatar when you joined and thought my eyes deceived me when it moved(!). Got a chuckle out of it.

If it’s any consolation, I was watching a MGTOW video the other day and saw a MGTOW bodybuilder who was making videos. ( Russian accent) and he’s in perfect physical shape. In that moment, I realized it isn’t HIM. It isn’t YOU. It isn’t ME. It isn’t your fused neck or any of the things we blame ourselves for. It’s the totally unacceptable (and very REAL) female behavior and toxic attitudes that’s a problem.

In what f~~~ing Universe is it acceptable for a woman to make a point of saying “I’m not having sex with you” on the first f~~~ing date anyway??

That’s totally inappropriate by all standards. It’s like walking up to a woman sand saying “hi”…. and before she says “hi” or “how are you” or makes any kind of normal conversation…. she blurts out “I have a boyfriend” like anyone was even talking about that. As if she can’t even SPEAK to other men without his permission.

“I have a boyfriend”.

“I just met you, and already you’re telling me your problems?”.

It’s so bad, that’s one of my stock responses now. If she even DARES bring up NOT-having-sex before it’s even on the table….

“You know I’m not attracted to you.”.

“I didn’t ask.”.

There is no need for a woman to announce “I’m not having sex with you tonight” when you just met her. It would be like saying “you’re never getting an engagement ring” before you’ve even opened the menu. It’s preposterous.

“I’m not having sex with you tonight.”.

“That’s what the last girl said, right before she pulled her panties off. I forgot her name. She had a great ass, tho. It was like an upside down heart…..so perfect. MMMMMmmmmm mmm.”.

That’s when they realize just how f~~~ing stupid they sound. So don’t blame yourself for any of it. Too many men look themselves in the mirror (when a woman doesn’t approve) and blame themselves for all kinds of irellevent factors that really play no role in the grand scheme of things. Especially if you have everything else going for you. BASKETBALL stars get cheated on too. So do rich and famous celebrities. But when she pretends to “reject” you BEFORE you show interest…. get her out, or get yourself out. Dinner whores are not your problem. She will get her payback much sooner than she thinks. Count on it.

You done the right thing.

Hello back. And a big welcome to you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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