Greetings! I cant believe there are others like me

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Greetings. I am a 22 year old college student about to graduate with pretty decent job prospects. I’m in a relationship with a girl a few years younger than me for almost 2 years, but Im prepared to end it because I’m seeing all the signs. But rather than go into the details of the signs I just want to say I am so glad Im not the only one out there who is terrified of the marriage culture out there. It never made sense to me and everyone thinks Im an alien from outer space. My girlfriend wants something very long term and constantly talks about marriage but fails to see how unfair it is for me in this day and age. She’s stuck in an old century way of thinking and cant look at the facts. For example, why do women expect thousands of dollars worth of diamond rings and weddings while med are stuck with a dinky ring worth a fraction of their ring’s cost? And she wants to control when she has kids, when/how she wants to live together, how sex has to go, etc etc and pretends to keep my interest in mind when I honestly just know she has an agenda deep down but wont tell me. I am prepared to bail, but Im glad im not crazy or wimpy or unmanly. Im just a very critical person who questions much of our societal constructs, unlike her who seems to just accept social norms like its nothing, probably because they all work in her favor. Anyway, I’m soo glad I found this because I’ve taken the pill and will abandon ship very very soon cause I miss my simple single life. The only people I can ever see myself caring for are my siblings and parents, cause I know they have my best interest in mind and not an agenda. I’ve always been very skeptical of women but was always met with criticism that I just wasn’t a “man”, this even came from her mouth when I expressed concern over why marriage was even necessary for us to be together, she FREAKED OUT, called me a liar, gay, jackass, you name it, it was almost comical. But I digress, I’m glad to be part of this new community that is making women everywhere freak out and realize how hypocritical they are.  I’m not one to hop aboard just any social movement, but MGTOW speaks volumes to me and I’ve always thought like this but kept it sheltered. glad to let the beast free at last!

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome brother…

Freeeeedoooooom! :]

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Fermat wrote:

when I expressed concern over why marriage was even necessary for us to be together, she FREAKED OUT, called me a liar, gay, jackass, you name it, it was almost comical.

Ah yes, the shame and blame with a twist of homophobia. Quite common, a lot of women would rather you be gay than believe their manipulation can’t keep a guy. Women want that contract, the one where they can get the government to put your b~~~~ in a vise while family court repeatedly kicks you in the sack.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

Welcome Furmat. Isn’t it great to see that there are others like us out there? I always felt like I was the only guy out there with three heads! That is how people looked at me anyway, when I tell them that I am 41, single, never married, no desire to ever get married, no interest in having kids. I might as well have three heads I tell ya.

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[experiencedParticipant]

Welcome Fermat271, “My girlfriend wants…,  but fails to see how unfair it is for me in this day and age. She’s stuck in an old century way of thinking and can’t look at the facts.” looking at this situation, you will later realize it’s, ‘My girlfriend wants what she wants and has consciously chosen to not consider how unfair it is for me.  She chooses to be stuck in an old century way of thinking because it benefits her and her alone. She has the ability to look at facts when they suit her, but chooses to not look at facts when they eff me over.”

“I  know she has an agenda deep down but won’t tell me.”-great insight.

Sometimes laydeez only hiss.  Right now, you’re her doctor frankenstein, she wants you…….right now anyway.

 

   Hiss    (subtitle,HYPERGAMYY !)

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Welcome fermat,
I’m 48 years old, and have had the same perceptions that you are having now for more than 30 years. The temporary benefits of a marriage contract do not justify the gargantuan risks a man takes who signs one. You are not crazy, misinformed, gay, jackass, liar, selfish or…. (insert any other entries from women’s tantrums when told they are not getting what they want).

Most importantly, you are not alone. Google ‘marriage strike’ or ‘men on strike’ or just do some research on the numbers of marriages happening between guys your age and women who expect to be married by your age. The rates of marriages among men your age are in free fall. The total number of married adults in the US as a fraction of the population is at the lowest point in over 100 years. You are not alone. You are part of a very rapidly growing trend that your girlfriend is trying as hard as she can to keep you distracted from until after you’ve signed.

A couple of decades before you were born, the marriage laws changed in ways that gave women enormous power to take advantage of men who married them. In larger and larger numbers, women took advantage of those laws. Over the years, they’ve done it so openly that it’s almost impossible to watch the news and not see some celebrity ex wife getting millions who otherwise had nothing to offer. It’s taken longer than it should have, but men are catching on…

It’s an error for women to brag openly about how much they get in these settlements, but they’ve done it on the premise that men had no choice but to marry them. It seems they never really counted on the possibility of men in large numbers resigning themselves not to get married at all. They got the laws in their favor to make it a rigged game, and then wildly abused that circumstance, never having considered that men might decline to play. Now, they have very few men left to marry, no backup plan, and a constant complaint about ‘where have all the good men gone?’.

There are lots of other men like you. And the frequency with which you hear that complaint are a good indicator that the number is growing, not shrinking.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[learningParticipant 115]

Fermat271. You are 22,  with good job prospects – and on top of that you are also very insightful that you have realised this at such a young age.

Batcave has also spelled it out for you.

I also had great job prospects at 22 and making very good money now – but I didn’t have your insight. My girlfriend at that time literally shamed me into marrying her – imagine, I didn’t even propose to her! I am stuck now until my kids go to college (I wont leave them even if it means a s~~~ life for me).

Anyway, you are already on the right path and girlfriend or not, DO NOT marry anyone! No matter how good and trustworthy you think they are at that point in time (the idiots on here, including me, who did get married, obviously thought it was a good idea at that point in time). I never used to google stuff all the way back then, maybe in today’s world with so much free information at our fingertips, I probably would have done things differently.

Just google the troubles of married men and you will see your reason for not doing it – the biggest reason is that the true nature of the woman comes out later. Whatever you see of her now is all fake (I don’t want to say s~~~ about her cos she’s your girlfriend). However, it is fake – I have been in your situation before and since she is already talking of marriage – it means that it is the only thing on her mind now. Go check her internet history – I am willing to bet it contain searches like “How to get him to propose” etc. etc.

This is not about you – it ALL about her. And most importantly, if it were some other eligible guy instead of you – I don’t think it would matter much to her.

You have a great exciting beautiful future ahead of you – full of sex, party, travel, sports and career success. Don’t f~~~ that up. Otherwise, your life will be filled with bills, bills and more bills – for stuff that you have not bought – and of course, no sex (for that you will have to call the local escort agency and pay more!).

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Dude welcome to the brotherhood. I’m so happy you learned at such a young age. That means your resource value is very good for investing money and so forth. Me I was 31 when I started my journey. I’m 44 now. I wish I had MGTOW back when I was in my early 20’s. I would of definitely had a higher resources value. I’m glad you found your way.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Hail and welcome Fermat!

I am also new to this MGTOW site and I had a “partial” red pill dose at your age, although I didn’t really know what it was at the time or fully understood.  I just knew I saw things a bit differently!  I am now 31 and have been (unknowingly) loving the MGTOW life for a large portion of my adult life – enjoying a few dates here, a few flings for a couple of months etc but nothing serious and the freedom is IMMENSE!  Without WOMEN having a massive influence on my life, I have achieved:

• 8 years AMAZING military service (awesome for *life* skills too)
• Degrees from Bachelors, Masters and now a Doctorate in Engineering
• My own home (not enormous but it’s a nice, easy to manage dwelling like a bungalow)
• Enough savings that I enjoy a state of “semi retirement” and just take the occasional Engineering Consultancy Role to top up my bank balance.

Life is golden my young friend.  You could VERY much be on your own route to personal growth and awesomeness!  Enjoy the ladies as they come for whatever, but as the saying goes – Variety is the Spice of Life!

Go forth and conquer!!!

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

@ Survivor, thanks haha I’m the kind of person who likes to understand what im getting into rather than just go the the so called “natural path” that others go that is rigged with traps and treachery. My gf is constantly saying that marriage is a fundamental part of being a true man when I don’t think she understands what being a true man is all about outside of women. I don’t like it when women believe they understand more about manliness and masculine identiy than men. They only understand the aspects of manliness when it suits their lifestyle. I’ve seen that time and time again. Thanks for the support everyone. I’m currently in the process of leaving her as I’m moving far away from her for my new job so I’ll have distance and no repercussions. I’ll keep u guys posted.

 

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[MantelarParticipant 77]

welcome, young man.  protect yourself at all times.  if you remember anything, remember that.  any of us, could talk with your for hours about that.  and many of us are older, and will talk freely with you about our mistakes if you ask.  contrary to what feminists will tell you, most men have a tremendously powerful potential for nurturing – we desperately want to watch others succeed and build upon our failures.  i know that sounds strange, but it will make sense, if it doesn’t now, when you get older.  a man smarter than me once said ‘wisdom is learning from the mistakes of others.’  ASK!  make informed decisions – especially with women, relationships, and marriage.  think about it – just about all the decisions you make in your life, as a successful college graduate, have been the result of some, perhaps considerable rational scrutiny on your part.  why not apply the same rational scrutiny to your personal relationship?  worst case, you ask, listen, communicate, and reject it all.  best case…you hear some bits of truth, here or there, and you adopt them, and make better decisions as a result.  call it scientific method applied to your life.  best wishes and take care.

[Anonymous 42]

@Fermat271, it sounds like your 6th sense is kicking in, your mind’s window to the future is telling something, It’s good to see you’re not ignoring that itch inside your head, never ignore the itch, that’s what blue pill dudes do, they get numb on denial and stop feeling the itch, then SLAM, they wish they listened to the itch. It sounds like you’ll do OK, but only if you scratch that itch and loose that flea!

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