Greetings from Germany

[toohighformarriageParticipant 2]

Hi guys,

I’m 21 and live in a big city in Germany where it’s relativley easy to find someone to spend a night with. Unfortunately most of my friends and even me are currently in relationships. In the moment I’m quite happy with my girlfriend, but I have to watch what my friend are doing to themselves. Their girlfriends controlling every step of them and manipulating them to the point where they aren’t even able to make decisions of their own.I’m here for two reasons: on the one hand I want to try to open my friends eyes. On the other hand (which is much more importand) I want to learn how to shield myself against this manipulation from females and how to live a life just for my own good without feeling responsable for any female. I’m tying to make peace with myself and I think that this community could help me finding this peace.

[jambearParticipant 282]

Guten Tag, welcome to the forums. Hopefully we can help you to get your friends to take the red pill.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

Welcome Black Knight!

I want to learn how to shield myself against this manipulation from females and how to live a life just for my own good without feeling responsable for any female.

Manipulation is not always easy to spot and women are masters of it by design. Whenever a woman asks you to give her a bit of your time, remember that your time is your most valuable commodity. You should be compensated in some fashion for giving it up. Once time is spent, it can never be recovered. Women expect men to perform favors for them, then they spin around and spew insults at you BECAUSE THEY DON”T RESPECT YOU. Well you are wiser now. Luckily for us, women have gotten lazier and most of the time you can spot their manipulation attempts quickly enough to put a stop to them.

If you haven’t seen this yet, it will give you a huge leg up when women try to shame you.
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Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hallo Black Night. Herzlich wilkommen bei MGTOW. Wir sind ganz froh über deine ankunft. In welche Stadt wohnst du denn? Die Hälfte von meine familie kommt nämlich aus Duesseldorf. Ab und zu fliege ich dahin zum besuch.

Female manipulations generally fail on me because I assume EVERY TIME a woman opens her mouth, it’s a manipulation. This attitude serves me very well and has saved my ass on many separate occasions. When she speaks, I hear something else….

Little things like:

• Do you want to get married in the summer or the winter?
• Do you want chicken or steak tonight?
• Do you want to go for a picnic or visit my parents today?

Most guys will hear that and answer innocently. But I see the manipulation like Neo decodes the Matrix. By asking “do you?…” she is deliberately phrasing the question as if she cares what I want, like the choice is MINE. But it isn’t. The question is strategically designed to get me to select one of her controlled choices. If I don’t pick one, she gets irritated. And why? Because she doesn’t give a s~~~ what I want. She only wanted me to pick one of HER choices.

So, where another guy might answer: “Summer. Chicken. and Picnic.”

…. I would answer “No”, “Pizza.”, and “Neither, I prefer to watch the football game.”

See the important difference? Assuming EVERYTHING a woman does is a manipulation of some kind will save your ass. It will drive her crazy, but better she than you. If she didn’t LIKE my answers, she shouldn’t have asked me what I want, and phrased the question another way.

May the force be with you, my young apprentice.
Welcome and thanks for joining.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

Indeed, why should this prized hag even present the duality?

why doesn’t she ask “what would you like?”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

why doesn’t she ask “what would you like?”

Because she doesn’t CARE. In fact, a lot of people don’t even ask this question themselves. (especially men).

As a MGTOW, even in restaurants, I order WHAT I FEEK LIKE. I ask myself “what do I want?” and without opening the menu I will decide “pasta” or “red meat” … or “mushroom soup” or whatever it is. I don’t open the menu until I tell the waiter something like “i feel like pasta today, What do you recommend? I don’t like cream sauce.” and then they list off a couple of options and maybe I pick one . Or I will often ask them to make me something off the menu, like “pasta al olio” with garlic and parmesan cheese – which is one of my favorites.

Or maybe I’d Like a burger – without the bun – bacon and cheese, and a side of ceasar salad. Extra anchovies.

It’s good for a MGTOW to order off the menu.

It’s a little (but important) exercise in NOT doing what everyone else does. Before they ask themselves, most people just open the menu and pick from a list of controlled choices. I go to restaurants with people and ask “what do you feel like eating” and the first words out of their mouths are “Well I don’t know. What do they have?” and they go right for the menu. This translates into their every day lives. They don’t take a minute to ask themselves what do I really want?. They just resign themselves to picking one of whatever is available.

In case you haven’t noticed, I’m not really talking about “food” here.
I’m making a direct parallel to all facets of life.
“WHAT DO I REALLY WANT?” is a MGTOW thing.

Sometimes when you honestly ask yourself this question (in a restaurant – or in life)… you may even surprise yourself and get up and leave to go somewhere else – because you realize you really want Sushi. Interesting metaphor. A lot of people will stay right where they are and pick a controlled choice, because they are lazy and are content to pick choices other people make for them.

Blue pill people like to stick to a menu. Watch and see. Go out with a blue-pill friend for dinner and then change your mind and say “you know I realize I want Sushi tonight lets go some place else”. They freak out a little. Especially women. They think it’s “weird” to ask yourself what you want, and go in another direction – even when you are already seated and paid for parking.

But shouldn’t you have EXACTLY what you want?

MGTOW is the luxury of ordering off the menu. Literally.

That’s why when a woman asks “do you want chicken or steak tonight?” I say “beer and pizza”. It really f~~~s with her head.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DocParticipant 112]

Good luck black night. Welcome and wish you peace on your quest.

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