Greetings from Albion, chaps.

[DisillusionedEnglishmanParticipant 4]

Alright lads, this is my first post on any MGTOW forum, and I thought it right that it should be on this particular one. I’m glad to finally be a member, and I look forward to making new rational-thinking friends. So, if any of you would be so kind to read it, here’s my story. (Apologies for any grammatical or spelling errors, it’s late here and I shouldn’t even be alive at this hour.)

About me:

I am between the ages of nineteen and twenty-one (I enjoy my anonymity), and I reside in Great Britain. I have been sceptical of female behaviour for a number of years – even despite my young age. I have always questioned things, whether it be authority, social norms, or people’s views. I am a political activist and I like to think of myself as a deep thinker. Anyway, enough of my biography, onto my reasons for becoming a MGHOW.

Discovering females:

I have never been to understand the female mind. When I was at school, I started to notice that girls were starting to become physically attractive to me. I spent many a terrible chemistry lesson admiring the beauty of the girls in my classes. Yet I could never grasp how to approach them, to make them interested in me. To be fair, I was overweight and shy, and the average girl these days is rather superficial, so I was fighting an uphill battle. So, I went through my whole school life without having any contact with the opposite sex, other than the necessary interactions. When I left at age sixteen, I was struggling to find my chosen path in life. I was a very angry individual, struggling with depression and temper issues. My failure with girls was definitely a factor to my anger, but certainly not the main one. I left school and went to college (not University, for the American lads on here).
At college I interacted more with girls, and I learnt more about how to talk to them without being nervous or awkward. This was progress, and I was glad. However, I left college after only one year, as I continued to struggle in finding what I wanted to do. I p~~~ed about for a while with different college courses and traineeships, whilst focusing more on my social life.

Starting to regret discovering females:

But unfortunately, depression had a tighter grip than ever on me, and I had been self harming throughout that year. I must admit, the main cause of my decline was a female. I started talking to her on Facebook and we Skyped, texted every day, and all that. I enjoyed communicating with her, and she said she enjoyed it too. So we agreed to meet up one weekend when college wasn’t on. I travelled to her hometown a few miles away, excited to see her and stay the night. When the night came, I was on the train home, thinking all kinds of dark thoughts. Passengers on the train even asked me if I was alright! The cuties. Anyway, my best mate texted me and we arranged to meet up when I got home. He’d had an impressive amount of experience with girls at the time, and had been sceptical of my online acquaintance. Without his support, who knows what I would have done. I followed his advice to the letter and told the harlot to fcuk off, but not before asking why she stood me up. Her excuses were poor, and she even texted me masquerading as her Dad! She basically showed no remorse and even laughed when I told her how I felt. This was callous considering how fragile my state of mind was (which she was aware of). I eventually told her some home truths and deleted all her contact details, consigned her to history.

Progress, at long last:

I can already hear everyone calling me a naïve idiot; and in hindsight I agree. I was foolish. I was only seventeen and an utter novice, but I suppose folly has no excuses. But what’s done is done.
At least I learnt from my mistakes, and later that same year I was actually in bed with a girl. She was half the physical spectacle of the other girl, but at least she was genuine. We did everything other than intercourse, and I was buzzing for days afterwards. I respected her feelings of not being ready for sex, and was pleased with myself for finding a girl who wasn’t a bicycle (which is rather difficult in modern England!)
We continued talking for a while afterwards, and I was confident of my chances of establishing a foothold, ie a relationship. But she effectively friendzoned me for ‘telling my mates that we met up’, even though she didn’t tell me I couldn’t do so. But the story was a success for me, especially considering the disaster of the last one. That was when I was seventeen, and I am now between nineteen and twenty-one. And since then, I have talked to countless girls. Even set up accounts on dating sites. All to little avail. Yes, I have met up with and had encounters with three more girls, but I’m still without a relationship under my belt. It was starting to anger me, until something happened earlier this year which laid the path for me to discover and embrace MGTOW.

Final straw and taking the Red Pill:

So, I was talking to a girl who I knew through mutual acquaintances and brief meetings, and her and I really clicked. She had a terrific sense of humour, and was splendidly intelligent and witty. And those two traits are really all I care about in girls and even people in general. We talked for weeks met up and made each other laugh countless times. But she was a promising gymnast, aiming to compete in the upcoming Olympics and consequently very busy. I understood this and accepted it. She said a relationship would be difficult, but she still wanted to talk. She was gorgeous and great to talk to, and I was enjoying punching way above my weight, so I accepted this. But then she said that even the occasional physical encounter would be impossible, given her regular training schedule. So, contrary to my beliefs and values, I decided to be friendzoned.
This was until she hooked up with a lad I knew at a house party. Him and I weren’t mates as such, but we knew each other and had no hostilities. I had actually been invited to said party, but declined to attend. I would probably have gone if I’d known she was going. Probably a good job I didn’t, as my anger had previously led me to getting into trouble with the police, and I would have been in even more hot water after leathering the lad she spent the night on a sofa with. All this after she told me I was ‘lovely’ and an ‘amazing lad’. ‘I have no free time’ and ‘I’m chasing my dream’ she said. Reasonable excuses I thought, until she found a whole evening to canoodle with someone else.

Moving on and self improvement, conclusion:

Since then, I have lost two stone (12.7kg, 28lbs). I’m now a healthy weight, feeling and looking better. I have effectively become a hermit, only talking to my best mates whilst playing video games (Witcher 3 is the best game ever) and just focusing on me. I’m far more relaxed now, without the female mind games. My blood pressure has no doubt improved!
It’s strange how I lost weight when I wasn’t talking to any girls. I felt motivated and confident enough to do so, when there was no tricks being played on my brain. I’m now a better and stronger man, after taking the Red Pill. I see that all 90% of women care about is material goods – suits, cars, etc. Or if you have a six pack and massive instrument, and a terrible choice in clothing. Although I’ve always felt that only having sexual, short term encounters with people is often morally reprehensible, I now see no alternative. Well, it’s better than getting your head played with and muddled, or getting stripped of your entire earnings through divorce courts! So, I’ll continue to dedicate one’s time to one’s self, and enjoy life while I’m still young. I really hope at least one person takes the time out of their day to read these incoherent ramblings! I hope to make many friends on here, so thank you for your time, brothers. May you all be well. Cheerio, for now!

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Welcome home, brother. I am glad that you finally joined us!

Nobody here will call you an idiot, not in any circumstances. Naïve, maybe, but never an idiot, for if you are an idiot, then all of us here are too.

We all saw this and have been there, in the same spot that you have been for such a long time.

Congratulations on the life and mind improvement, those are the initial steps for you to have a better life, so never stay away from them.

The red pill is always bitter and hard to swallow, but once in your mind and body, things will start to improve if they have not already started.

Feel free to do anything you want in here. We have your back, brother.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 18]

Welcome to MGTOW

Very nicely put intro.

The problem isn’t you.

It’s not even the young girls.

It’s nature.

Society doesn’t have enough rewards in place for an average rational man to jump the hurdles.

Like them promiscuous types say- if you can’t have me at my worst you don’t deserve me at my best.

I promise a familiar but less outrageous saying : if you can’t have me at my average Joe days you don’t deserve me at my average Joe days after having penetrated by numerous c~~~s, a few stds and some unexpected spawn from a former lover. In fact I am now above average and realize I was stupid to court a woman like you back in the day. Please that is shameful enough don’t embarrass me any further by contacting me.

You are young, your days are still ahead. Live in the positive light of your new found wisdom and manhood and escape the confusion of woman-speak, woman-do and woman-regrets.

[Anonymous 42]

DisillusionedEnglishman wrote:

But she effectively friendzoned me for ‘telling my mates that we met up’, even though she didn’t tell me I couldn’t do so.

Hi D-Englishman, A classic belittlement to gain position over your emotions by establishing superiority over you in her feminist narcissistic programming (man bashing), it a s~~~ rag to be thrown back in her face with no apologies, just the back of your head as you calmly walk away (a real man).

DisillusionedEnglishman wrote:

but I’m still without a relationship under my belt.

Didn’t you mean a noose around your neck with high voltage anodes and electrodes attache to your brain, with her holding the switch in one hand, and the linchpin rope in the other?

DisillusionedEnglishman wrote:

Although I’ve always felt that only having sexual, short term encounters with people is often morally reprehensible, I now see no alternative.

That’s the truth, accept it, embrace it, then draft a plan of action to never become ensnared by natures animal we call woman, as she is altered by feminism to become deadly to a man’s spirit. Bad medicine is bad medicine, in fact it’s POISON! Spit it back in their face, again, A REAL MAN!

DisillusionedEnglishman wrote:

So, I’ll continue to dedicate one’s time to one’s self, and enjoy life while I’m still young.

The precautions you take now to avoid ALL THE TOXIC VENOM found in the female mental gland. This will place you in a position of extreme advantage over feminism and all it’s various brands of mental POISON!

DisillusionedEnglishman wrote:

Cheerio, for now!

So British! I like it! And welcome to the greatest show on earth! ((((MGTOW.COM))))

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Welcome DE!
There is no point in putting yourself down. Young people are bound to make mistakes due to inexperience. That does not make them idiots.
In fact, you should be proud that it took you so little time to learn from your mistakes. Many of us made a lot more poor decisions before waking up.
You are on the right path. Taking care of your body won’t just make you look better, it will also help you with your mood/anger. Physical exercise strengthens the body and the mind.
I am really happy for you. You seem an intelligent young man that has all his life ahead of him, and you are already going you own way, knowing what to avoid and what to embrace. Keep it up, and dive into the knowledge freely given here by so many of our fellow members. God knows I’ve learned a lot from them.

Good luck!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Greetings DE !

First off, let me welcome you here.

Second, let me congratulate you on what you got right.

1: You actually took a look at your self, your faults and decided to improve yourself ! As for your strengths, you impress me as the kind of guy often too harsh with himself. You are still discovering your strengths. Don’t sell yourself short, you might be stunned at what positive things you might learn about yourself as you improve yourself.

2: As someone who chose MGTOW long before MGTOW existed (1980’s), you have demonstrated that you are more able to adapt and learn than a large number of your peers do and much more so than my generation (born 1969). I know men who have not figured out what you figured out, and realized the need to change directions, at twice your age.

3: You figured out Traditional Marriage is a trap BEFORE getting married ! And like I said, men thrice your age have not figured that one out ! That goes for a lot of Long Term Relationships too.

The list can go on.

There are some things I would love to share with you, in brief.

1: If anyone tries to use the tired old lie that you’ll regret not “getting married / having kids” when you’ll get older, remember this:

I was told the same lie repeatedly over the last 30 years. It was a lie then, and it is an even bigger lie now. I am middle aged- closer to 50 than 40, and I am so much happier without a family and have nothing to regret. Well, there is an exception- regret failing to convince others that it was a trap and that they had the power to live their lives as they wished.

Hell, I know a lot of married men who can only bring themselves to admit their regrets years later, long after they are trapped with a huge house payment, wife and kids.

You, DE, have the power to chose how to live your life. When people insist on telling you that you must get married and you must have kids you are the one who can tell them “no.”

I also think not getting married and not having kids is great revenge on enemies who get trapped. You get to spend years living freely and watching them, pointing and laughing. Yes, some of them deserve it.

2: Getting out and learning to interact with all different types of people is a powerful skill and can be entertaining. You don’t have to like them or spend hours talking to them- in fact listening is a powerful tool. Have fun working on those skills as you “people watch” Its fun and you can learn a lot. You’ll have surprises, good and bad, I can promise that. But remember, it takes practice.

3: You might have an sort of nagging hunch about this, but I will explain in short terms the best I can.

Your value as a male in today’s world is going up, and barring any huge tragedy, is likely to keep going up for possibly decades !

This sounds crazy- many people will bleat about how you have to run out and pursue women by spending money. The will tell you that, somehow, women are to be treated like a resource in short supply and high demand. Time, they will say, is running against you- you can’t get married too late !

Listen to me, DE, I beg of you. You may not understand me now, next week nor next month. But, listen to me, and I know you will come to understand:

Time, sir, is on your side !

As the “best” suckers get married off, the supply of “available” men will drop off. The women, get older, and must, after a certain point, get married or start to give up. In the meantime, you will have kept yourself free of child support, alimony, child expense, divorce lawyer and other heavy costs of getting married.

The supply of men, is the one that will shrink. The demand for men by women will grow. So many men have no clue as to their value.

4. If you ever start to wonder what life as a MGTOW is like as you get older, I can cite other things you will experience more and more as time passes.

The envy of men you grew up with. They might imply it with snark, but if you listen closely after a few shots of whiskey or a few beers, you will hear some of them tell you of how they envy your freedom and simplicity of life.

Each time you dump a woman when she tries to pull some stupid mind game, many married men will cry in their beer because they know they have to go back home to “her”.

The groans and curses as you get to travel, vacation, work or play as wish, not needing to ask the wife for permission to even try a new brand of toothpaste.

5. MGTOWs can get laid, if they wish to. In fact, plenty do.

Some MGTOWs chose not to get laid or interact with women more than they must. Their choice, I do not have to agree with it, but I have to respect their right to live as they wish. Others of us chose to be with women for sex and/or company.

But unlike married men , MGTOWS have to option of accepting only interactions on terms of being equals, and I mean real equals.

When she plays mind games, deploys deception, or pulls any stupid tricks, you can kick her to the curb. You do not need to ever beg some judge or government official to get permission to leave her and keep paying her for being away from her.

If you look at real studies, I knew from just talking to married men, that a lot of them don’t get nearly as much sex as you might have been led to think, or any at all ! Many of the men here who have been married will tell you.

DE, I wish you luck. There is a lot to learn, and you are on the path.

Frank V.

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