Greetings my fellow gents!

[snubz0988Participant 3]

26 year old male living in Newark Delaware. As for my experience with women….I have none. I wasn’t blessed with what it takes to attract women as most men. I’ve felt lonely for most of my life and sometimes it is very painful. Recently learned of MGTOW this pass year. I’ve begun to see through the facade that society continues to uphold and it feels good to finally see the world for what it truly is. Came here to gain more knowledge from you wise gentlemen as I continue down my journey of enlightenment. Optimistic about meeting good people here to commune and share ideas with.

[VileNordParticipant 766]

Welcome!

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey @Snubz.

I was watching a video on YoutUbe (I forget which) but it’s a good MGTOW video and there was a comment underneath it I will never forget:

He said (and I quote): “I used to feel pretty bad that I was not good enough or attractive enough for most women to date or marry. But now I’m inclined to CELEBRATE it”.

You may be surprised to know that men with options also feel the same way. Even PUA (pick up artists) become disenchanted and/or exhausted from the effort they put forth into crushing ass. There is a beautiful truth to learning…. even if you had to endure boatloads of female rejection along the way, what is she “rejecting”, actually? Your attention? Effort? Time? Generosity? A willingness to have a go at it with her? You’re not “losing” anything. You’re not “missing out” on much. The quote above really stuck with me, because I DO have options and just don’t want them. So whether you feel “blessed” or not really doesn’t play much of a role in it, it would seem. It’s actually something feel GOOD about.

Big welcome , thanks for your introduction and for joining!
Start or join a conversation whenever you’re inspired.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[snubz0988Participant 3]

Thank you all, great to know that I have a home here.

[Anonymous 0]

Hi snubz0988,
Welcome to MGTOW, it is the right choice.
Well, being alone is just a feeling and always feed by the opinoin of Mainstream that it is a bad Thing. It is not. IT is a Kind of gift because it Forces you to Keep busy with yourself and your stuff and to find out what is the best for YOU.
There are a lot of cuoples out ther which are living together but alone anyway. So I tell you it is better being lonesome alone, then being lonesome in pairs.
Cheers!!!

[snubz0988Participant 3]

<cite>@hollowmile said:</cite>
Hi snubz0988,
Welcome to MGTOW, it is the right choice.
Well, being alone is just a feeling and always feed by the opinoin of Mainstream that it is a bad Thing. It is not. IT is a Kind of gift because it Forces you to Keep busy with yourself and your stuff and to find out what is the best for YOU.
There are a lot of cuoples out ther which are living together but alone anyway. So I tell you it is better being lonesome alone, then being lonesome in pairs.
Cheers!!!

Thank bro appreciate all the kind words and warm welcome. I definitely have accomplished alot this year due to having alot of time on my hands. Was overweight for my height, actually i was 190-200lbs at the beginning of the year. I’m now like 160lbs. I’m chiseled man…get alot of props for my arms, chest by alot of my buddies. Currently working on my traps and shoulders, want to be a beast. I also joined a boxing gym to continue my fitness regime and learn the science of boxing. Improved my diet as well, just got hired for a new job at Siemens Medical Solutions, and currently working towards getting back in school. So yeah…you guys are correct. Being alone is a gift. It also makes us stronger.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

This year, I am not going to visit family for Christmas.
Last year I didn’t either. My mother is devastated.

Why would I want to fly and visit relatives in Toronto on my Christmas holidays, and freeze my ass off? Forget it! Im sitting in the sunshine for 11 days! But even more importantly….. when I visit family, its the same old f~~~ing bulls~~~. And I hate it.

So Mom says “Come home for Christmas. I will pay for the ticket”.

ME: “Did you hear what I said? The answer us NO. It’s not the money. I don’t WANT to be there. Do you understand?”

She doesn’t understand.
She would rather be surrounded by people she hates than be alone.

“I don’t want you to be alone”….. she says (which is the same goddam shaming s~~~ I am so tired of hearing – being “alone” is GREAT!), which she doesn’t understand , because I would TRULY rather spend Christmas alone in solitary confinement at Alcatraz.

So I remembered what Robin Williams said. And I told her “I used to think the worst thing in life is being alone. It’s not. the worst thing in life is being surrounded by people who make you FEEL alone”.

(Full nuclear explosion. She goes completely silent.)

Boy, do I ever know what that means. And it’s why my Dad would retreat to the garage to slowly suicide himself with a hidden flask of vodka and cigarettes – sometimes for hours on end – after every meal. Probably wondering what the f~~~ he had done and how he ended up in married hell.

“But I don’t want you to be alone!”
F~~~ off. I never feel more lonely than when I visit my family.

It starts to get funny when I get to tell them I am not “alone” at all anyway. I have a bunch of friends to spend the holidays with. Friends I personaly hand picked, people I like, and trust, and choose to surround myself with.

“Yes but they are not your FAMILY!!!!”

RIGHT.

Exactly RIGHT. Are you getting it yet?

What the f~~~ does that tell you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Most relationships aren’t worth it.  I felt lonely even when I was with a woman.  Trust me the bs a guy has to go through isn’t worth it.   If I had to do it over again I wouldn’t have dated not that I dated that much.  I’ve seen a lot of guys getting treated badly from women.  That was enough to not to marry and in 2006 I lost interest in women romantically.  If women showed interest I made it clear I wasn’t.  There are desperate only women out there because she don’t want to date.

 

In the end I rather be alone and not be lonely than be with someone and feel so frigging lonely.  How can someone feel lonely when they are with people?  Because these people don’t value you and treat you like total s~~~.  Then you start getting depressed and lonely.  It’s far worse lonely than being by yourself.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KeymasterKeymaster]

SO many guys understand this. Even guys who are “PUAs” and pretend to a have a “happy” marriage are the loneliest.

You know why? Because if you gotta “game” your own wife to make it work (or not fail)….. then you are constantly operating on a higher plane than she. You are conscious of your every move, you rethink what she means as opposed to what she says, you study your (and her) behaviors and adjust your responses according to what “works” instead of what you want, or believe is right.

(i.e Wow she looks great tonight… but since I am gaming my wife, I should not compliment her, say nothing, or “neg” her with a fat jab — so that I will get laid tonight.)

Married men are the loneliest around. COUNT on it.
This is not a partnership.

“By the time most women are 12, they have decided to become prostitutes. That is, to select and man and have him do all the work. The possibility of communication between the sexes ceases at this point. Their paths are divided forever.”
– The Manipulated Man

Show me ONE relationship where a woman tells her partner, lover, husband or boyfriend the most intimate details that she tells her “friends”, bartender, hairdresser or anyone else. That guy is the LONELIEST guy and he is in a f~~~ing “relationship” or marriage. In every relationship I have ever seen fail, (and even some that don’t fail) the wife and girlfriend tells everyone else about her intentions and plans except the guy she is in a relationship (or marriage) with.

Here are some of the LONELIEST men on the planet.

/video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/

A tranny talk show host is closer to his wife than he is.

And just because a relationship doesn’t fail, doesn’t mean it “worked”.
Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas, doesn’t mean you had a good time.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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