Good Guy Shaming.

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  • #209541
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    AFT
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    I thought I would share this to reinforce and remind us of the hypocrisy we have all endured in the past. Imagine the wasted time and effort that red pill pick up artists go through to qualify for that std ridden hairy clam. Or even worse the Blue Pill nice guys that are left hung out to dry.

    Quote – ” “Good guys” are the absolute worst. If you’re going to go on an insane rant every time a woman tells you ‘no,’ you’re not a good guy.” – End Quote

    http://distractify.com/sex-relationships/2016/03/15/good-guy-shaming-women

    I pinched this quote off Rational Male:

    “You see shaming Nice Guys for playing by the rules every woman has told him he ought to play by – since his single-mother or feminized father mentioned he should respect women by default to him since 5 years old – is the height of Hypergamous hypocrisy”

    http://therationalmale.com/2016/03/20/the-price-of-nice/

    Choices in life:

    1/ Nice guy: to be an unappreciated disposable utility to woman, for no reward.

    2/ PUA: to be an entertaining clown for the amusement of childish women to get a taste of some STD ridden vagina.

    3/ MGTOW: to go monk, value your sovereignty and work on yourself to fully actualize your potential.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #209560
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    K
    Hitman
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    seems all men get shamed, not just the ‘good guys’.
    it starts early, boys don’t cry..
    never hit a girl..
    respect all women..
    they want ALL the privileges then shame you no matter what you do.
    just vile.
    they poisoned the well and damn you whether you drink from it or not.
    mind-f~~~ !
    MGTOW is the only answer that makes any sense.

    #209580
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    Anonymousyam
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    I don’t think i am going fully monk mate. Being an asshole is too much fun to give up. But i do see all the shamming that i got as a kid (like never hit a woman, respect women, etc). And i do see mgtow as a need in life for the value of the knowledge is too much to lose.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #209591
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    they want ALL the privileges then shame you no matter what you do.
    just vile.
    they poisoned the well and damn you whether you drink from it or not.
    mind-f~~~ !

    Great point Hitman-
    Female shaming does amount to a “mind-f~~~”.
    If some men have a weakness, it may be caring about what women think about them. Women know and exploit this- thus the shaming.
    Once you don’t give a damn and are indifferent to their sorry butt, the shaming stops working.

    #209598
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    Wolf redpillman
    Wolf redpillman
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    3 /mgtow/to go.monk????speak for youself dude,don’t try to point all mgtow`s as.monk

    #209601
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    Etrangere
    Etrangere
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    I don’t think i am going fully monk mate. Being an asshole is too much fun to give up. But i do see all the shamming that i got as a kid (like never hit a woman, respect women, etc). And i do see mgtow as a need in life for the value of the knowledge is too much to lose.

    Agree with you on both points. I watched a video in which Popp laid out the MGTOW foundations , and I’m with him quite honestly…in between friends only for women and pump and dump PUA on the scale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOIduTY0mHY

    Recognizing shaming is paramount as is calling out those who try to use it against you.

    #209603
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    AFT
    AFT
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    weakness, … caring about what women think

    Great point, since when was caring a weakness? That’s how f~~~ed up this convoluted, corrupt feminist society has become. Oh well, they’ve laid the foundation, so we’ve all learned how many f~~~s are appropriate to give.

    I don’t think i am going fully monk mate. Being an asshole is too much fun to give up.

    As long as the juice is worth the squeeze. Personally I need to establish an appropriate amount of monk time to utilize for myself. Playing games with pussy, like any recreational activity, that is consumption in nature, shouldn’t take more than 20% of my time.

    3 /mgtow/to go.monk????speak for youself dude,don’t try to point all mgtow`s as.monk

    Didn’t mean to imply full monk, but I need my monk time to develop my skills and invest in my future, not go fully celibate, just focus on my future and growth.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #209607
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    Spank The Misandrists
    Spank The Misandrists
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    If you’re watching some girl you like getting hurt by another guy STOP WHINING ABOUT IT AND DO SOMETHING.

    Why the f~~~ would any guy wanna do that? I thought you girls are so strong and independent?

    Did Batman give up on Gotham because people weren’t thanking him for saving the city?

    Uh! I got it, so we should still save your sissy ass pussy when you get knocked out by some random crazy ass, even though you treat us like s~~~? Wow, that makes total sense!

    I want people to respect that I can defend myself. I want people to respect that WOMEN CAN DO THINGS WITHOUT A GENTLEMAN TO HELP.

    Then why the f~~~ do you want us to help girls when they are getting hurt by another guy then? Btw, if you could replace the word “respect” with “listen and believe”, that would make more sense.

    We aren’t fragile things you need to defend.

    I agree, stop asking for our help then bitch!

    Keep holding doors open, keep being friendly, just don’t expect things in return

    Ye, keeping serving you like a slave. Why the f~~~ do you non-fragile, strong and independent “I can do everything” s~~~ hole still want us to provide that kinda services if you can do it all by yourself?

    If you want us to be less afraid of the world, then change the world, don’t change us.

    Oh ye, we should change the world to suit your strong sissy ass pussy, we should tell the burglars not to steal, tell the liars not to lie, tell the rapist not to rape, tell hungry lions to move out of the way when you come running down with your tuna smelling t~~~, great plan you moron!

    #209610
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    Spank The Misandrists
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    And who the f~~~ is this “MARK PYGAS” mangina sissy ass?

    If you listen closely enough, you can hear the sound of a fedora tipping.

    And yes, if I look at your sissy ass face closely enough, I WILL see the fear of not getting female approval in your eyes, fear that has spread your entire body due to fact that your ball-less crotch has stopped producing real man hormone. But instead you rather be swimming in a pool of mangina juice.

    And lastly he said: Well said!
    This is the exactly the type of guy women should be afraid of, they want to keep the real men away, so they are the only ones left with women and when that happens they will rape the living s~~~ of them.

    #209628
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    Uchibenkei
    uchibenkei
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    I can’t be shamed

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    #209707
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    RealityBites
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    ee shaming Nice Guys for playing by the rules every woman has told him he ought to play by – since his single-mother or feminized father mentioned he should respect women by default to him since 5 years old – is the height of Hypergamous hypocrisy”

    This is what I’ve figured out.
    Women get hit on left and right by guys.
    The get hit on by so many guys so often that they don’t have time to get to know a guy, so they look for a way to FILTER OUT men that they think are weak. Because they think that weak men will produce weak offspring.

    One way to filter out weak men is to see if they are compliant men (compliant means “weak”). This means nice guys. The guys who follow the rules and try to go through all the hoops that women are saying out loud of what they are looking for in a guy.

    But what women are actually looking for is just the opposite of what they are saying. So it is a double game that women are playing to filter out compliant (nice) guys.

    So what are women really looking for? Look at who they sleep with? The biker gang dude, the thug, the wealthy businessman who is also something of a smart ass who never bows to any woman (Donald Trump), etc. To a woman: these men are desirable because they will produce strong offspring (women literally say that their sperm is strong).
    Women are looking for strong willed men who will challenge them and dominate them.

    So why do mothers raise their boys to be compliant or female teachers train boys in classrooms to be compliant? Because it makes the job of filtering out the weak ones easier for other women. A really stubborn boy isn’t going to listen to any rules laid down by his mother and father. He is going to do things his way anyway no matter what he is told.

    Women lie and deceive to manipulate men to get what they want, to filter out undesirable men. If a woman goes after a Beta male, it is only because she is going after his money and is fully intending on cheating on him behind his back with the biker guy at a local dive bar, while her husband is out working. She is going to try to get herself knocked up by this dude, and then pass the kid off as her beta male’s.

    She is playing a double mating game, because alphas (especially successful alphas) are in short supply.

    And yes women will happily share an alpha male, just so long as they can get access every now and then to his sperm.

    If a wife is cutting off the husband from sex, dollars to donuts she is getting pounded by some other guy on the side. Women like and want sex just as much as men do. But they have been taught since they were little girls by their mother, that sex is their chief tool in controlling men, and the way to make it valuable and precious is to make it scarce. But women have a need for sex, they get horny, so you can bet your ass that they are out there cheating like crazy while they make the husband sleep in the other room because he didn’t wash the dishes and fold the laundry and is therefore being punished until he does what she wants.

    #209758
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    RoyDal
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    What shame means to me is that I actually care what she thinks about me, and I let that negatively influence my well being.

    Here’s some bumper sticker wisdom: What she thinks about me is none of my business!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #209860
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    Narwhal
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    The problem with ‘nice’ is that the guy who considers himself ‘nice’ is more likely to be a doormat then an actual caring person. Calling yourself nice just lessens the blow.

    ‘Nice’ isn’t attractive because it’s usually taking the easy road. It’s playing it safe. It’s ignoring red flags in hopes that they’ll just magically disappear without you having to walk away or do something about it. It’s a crutch. A nice guy will fix her problems because he doesn’t want to deal with rejection, or admit to himself that this girl isn’t who he should be spending his time with. He will tell her she’s beautiful and funny and all that, because he doesn’t want to admit to himself that he aimed low. He tells her he’d love to go her friend’s baby shower just to avoid an argument. Nice guys will shame women when they don’t get attention because it’s easy to do so…to hide their own failures and short comings. It is often manipulative.

    I remember when I was engaged to my ex-wife, and it came time to look at combining our finances. Turns out she had about $7k in cc debt…I was devastated. She didn’t think it was a big deal, but when I explained to her that it was, she got scared and apologized. Being the ‘nice guy’ I forgave her and paid it, hoping she would magically change her ways. I should have asked for that info before we were engaged and let her know that I couldn’t marry her with that kind of debt. Even if I hadn’t, I should told her I needed to think about and re-evaluate whether I should call off the marriage. There is nothing wrong, rude, or uncaring about those options. Both options would have resulted in a better chance at long term happiness for both of us, together or separate. Instead, I took the nice and easy way out, hoping on a miracle. That may be nice, but it’s what a weak man does, and I certainly didn’t do it because I cared about my fiancé. It was no surprise that she couldn’t stay under a budget when we were married, and knew she could talk her way out of it with me. It made me miserable having to deal with our debt, which in turn made her miserable.

    So I say, don’t be nice. Be honest. If she’s not appreciating what you do for her, then stop doing them. If you care, then care. If you don’t care, then don’t care.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #209999
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    Jan Sobieski
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    If you don’t give a f~~~, you are immune to shame.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #210362
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    Rhett
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    If you don’t give a f~~~, you are immune to shame.

    I believe the red pill is the vaccine.

    Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

    #210653
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    Big Boss
    Big Boss
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    I’ve always been a “rebel”. When I was younger I was quiet, serious, intense, ready to fight, and liked man s~~~ and hated authority. I didn’t like being around people for very long if I felt they didn’t think about things beyond little social group s~~~ or were very unintelligent. So obviously even though I wanted to f~~~ women, I really couldn’t stand being around them long with their incessant high school bull s~~~. Yeah, I wanted a long lasting relationship, but I noticed the amount of whoring being done wasn’t going to get me that dream.

    Then came college. A breath of fresh air at the time that I worked part time to pay for. I realized then most people liked getting me drunk because I become affable, silly, relaxed, horny, and much more humorous. I was pretty fun to hang out once alcohol pulls the stick out of my ass.

    Alcohol is simply awesome. Also, god bless the internet for giving me the opportunity to talk s~~~ to people without consequence. I think it helped keep me sane.

    I can’t handle being nice unless its around co-workers where we have a vested interest in getting s~~~ done. Once I clock out, I also punch out of Nice Guy. Unless I have a drink, then I’m a bro.

    #210900
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    Varun
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    seems all men get shamed, not just the ‘good guys’.
    it starts early, boys don’t cry..
    never hit a girl..
    respect all women..
    they want ALL the privileges then shame you no matter what you do.
    just vile.
    they poisoned the well and damn you whether you drink from it or not.
    mind-f~~~ !
    MGTOW is the only answer that makes any sense.

    Exactly…. priceless wisdom right here!

    The ‘mothers’ and ‘feminized fathers’ do not realize that teaching a boy to ‘respect women no matter what’ as opposed to this:

    So I say, don’t be nice. Be honest. If she’s not appreciating what you do for her, then stop doing them.

    ….will result in a lot of confusion once the boy hits adolescence that will continue well into his adult years…unless of course, he re-educates himself to convert himself from a ‘good guy’ into a ‘bad guy’.

    No, do not respect women just because they are women. You can respect them if they deserve respect. I would respect a woman who puts the interests of her family in front of her own interests; <- that deserves respect. A woman who just leaves a good relationship “in search of greener grass” does not deserve respect.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    #211522
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    RayBandaku
    RayBandaku
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    888

    Women’s opinions are worthless in my life. I don’t give a dam what they say about men.

    #211841
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    JollyMisanthrope
    JollyMisanthrope
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    Hopefully one of the lessons MGTOW learn is that men need to make informed decisions where women are concerned. The more informed you are the better. After that it’s just a matter of how we choose to go our own way. I don’t see how MGTOW benefits from being joined at the hip with the notion of going “monk”.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    #212541
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    Anonymous
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    If a woman goes after a Beta male, it is only because she is going after his money and is fully intending on cheating on him behind his back with the biker guy at a local dive bar, while her husband is out working.

    Amen brother. An ex who wanted to ‘marry’ me slept with a guy after a week of our breakup. He did the old pump and dump routine but the bitch had the audacity to rationalize it by saying, “I believe him when he says he wants to work things out with his ex-wife”/

    LMAO.

    If you don’t give a f~~~, you are immune to shame.

    I believe the red pill is the vaccine.

    If you don’t give a f~~~, you are immune to shame.

    I believe the red pill is the vaccine.

    It’s a seasonal shot. No one time vaccine. The shot needs to be repeated every so often.

    Blue pills have a way of working back in our system. It’s a lifelong fight. MGTOWs are fighters.

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