Good Evening (disregard misplaced commas you f~~~ing Nazis)

[PaulRevereParticipant 35]

First and foremost I want to commend Site Admin for being so responsive. I gave them a call about forum access and received an email literally seconds later saying I was in. Thank you.

So.. Not sure where to start here. I feel I come from a bit different background than many who have claimed to live the red pill life for X years.

Let me make one thing clear, I have lived my life the way I’ve wanted, but have made some mistakes that have cost me dearly and that, I believe, is why I was nuanced by a friend to check you out.

So here is my story. I’m not sure I’ve swallowed the red pill regarding relationships yet. (politics and government wise I completely have and may later post my red pill rage in the politics section..later.)

I have never had a whole lot of trouble with women actually, I tend to enjoy casual relationships on a mutual basis relatively often compared to some and have been with quite a few women that I have thoroughly enjoyed my time with. And then there was the one. I was 23(31 now) when I joined the military and had a somewhat positive attitude, if not too realistic. Then I met her. We dated a total of four years. During that time we lived together. I went on deployment for many months. Came back and she moved across the country with me after I discharged at 27. I gave everything I could monetarily, but more importantly my heart. I got back from Afghanistan right before we moved and I left the military hoping for a life more conducive to a family. If anyone has gone on deployment for a good amount of time they will know what I mean here. When I got back I ate everything in site. I left the military to finish my bachelors and did just that with her in tow, but the effects of conflict took hold and I began drinking too much and giving much more attention to my old friends that I hadn’t seen in years than her, not realizing any time had passed since I had seen them last, over 4 years before.

With the combination of alcohol and depression my ex could not take it anymore and moved back across the country to her home. After 4 years of being together. I genuinely loved her. I believe she left in June 2014, but really it has all been a blur ever since so it is very hard to say. I have spent every day since wondering what I did wrong and why I’m not good enough. Why would she not help me through my situation. In contrast to what many people have posted, this girl was not typical. She needed absolutely nothing from me and was relentless in her pursuit of what she wanted, which is why I think we hit it off. This girl would have been the womens MGTOW incarnate. She truly believed in individual liberty and I loved her for it.

Which bring me tonight. x amount of time since all of this and it seems like yesterday. It’s affecting my job, and possible relationships. As I said earlier I have no problem with the casual and since she left I have been doing fine in that area, but that need to be important to someone still tugs and I don’t know how to deal with it. I come here as someone who is interested in taking this red pill, but wants to still believe there is a slight possibility in the future for something. I’m not sure what MGTOW stance is for people like me. I am my own person, but at the same time still think just maybe..it could happen.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PaulRevere wrote:

I was nuanced by a friend to check you out.

REALLY. We seldom hear that. Almost 100% of the time, it has to be discovered.

PaulRevere wrote:

First and foremost I want to commend Site Admin for being so responsive. I gave them a call about forum access and received an email literally seconds later saying I was in. Thank you.

Pleasure to welcome you is ours.

PaulRevere wrote:

I have spent every day since wondering what I did wrong and why I’m not good enough.

Careful with what you accept responsibility (or blame yourself) for. Most of the time, men accept responsibility for things that are not their doing. i.e. “She left… I wondered what I did wrong” while he scratches his head and blames himself. Except, he didn’t do anything “wrong”. She left with no explanation, and THAT in itself is unacceptable and wrong.

So unload some of that baggage and take a load off.

PaulRevere wrote:

I am my own person, but at the same time still think just maybe..it could happen.

We’ve been socialized to think that. But if it’s something you need to keep you going, then why not use it for that. MGTOW is a lifestyle choice entirely grounded in reality…. but then you can still hold personal beliefs which aren’t necessarily essential to your existence, but they can still enhance your existence.

Many (mgtow) have accepted that you simply will never find solace in the bosom of a woman. What she wants from you is precisely what she will resent you for when you want it from her. (security, stability, someone to listen etc.) So even when in a “relationship”, the man will always be alone.

It’s a pretty big red pill to swallow. But nobody is forcing it on you.

Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PaulRevereParticipant 35]

Keymaster wrote:

Careful with what you accept responsibility (or blame yourself) for. Most of the time, men accept responsibility for things that are not their doing. i.e. “She left… I wondered what I did wrong” while he scratches his head and blames himself. Except, he didn’t do anything “wrong”. She left with no explanation, and THAT in itself is unacceptable and wrong.

So unload some of that baggage and take a load off.

We’ve been socialized to think that. But if it’s something you need to keep you going, then why not use it for that. MGTOW is a lifestyle choice entirely grounded in reality…. but then you can still hold personal beliefs which aren’t necessarily essential to your existence, but they can still enhance your existence.

Many (mgtow) have accepted that you simply will never find solace in the bosom of a woman. What she wants from you is precisely what she will resent you for when you want it from her. (security, stability, someone to listen etc.) So even when in a “relationship”, the man will always be alone.

It’s a pretty big red pill to swallow. But nobody is forcing it on you.
Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums.

This I feel, is something I really needed to hear. Though I’m not sure it’s what I wanted to hear, I feel it’s the truth. I don’t remember a single relationship where I feel it was of equal participation. MGTOW needs to sponsor a Bourbon to throw this pill down with as this is f~~~ing mindblowing. And to clarify, while I am most definitely looking to go my own way, I would appreciate any help with the whole battles with depression and alcohol. I am a very logical and reasonable person, but damn does motivation lack. This is why I have decided to create an account and post. I need some guidance.

[PaulRevereParticipant 35]

As Neil Tyson would say. I am ready to “stand on the shoulders of giants” and learn from “those who came before”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PaulRevere wrote:

Though I’m not sure it’s what I wanted to hear, I feel it’s the truth.

Oh I’m quite sure it wasn’t what you wanted to hear. That’s why I stepped forward first, so I could be that asshole before someone else. I was compelled as a duty. But I also knew you would probably appreciate it as most men here do.

Be direct and tell a woman the truth, and she will be furious.
Be direct and tell a man the truth, and he will be grateful for it.

( You didn’t disappoint. Respect. )

But… it’s also GREAT news. Because the “depression” that men experience from blaming themselves for f~~~ing EVERYTHING is suddenly… well… you feel … much lighter! I can’t tell you how many intros read like that “I wondered where I went wrong” – when she f~~~ed someone else. When she f~~~s someone else, you didn’t do anything *wrong*. SHE DID. Never forget that. But men accept the blame for EVERYTHING and women will allow and encourage it!

When you cheat, you’re a s~~~ty boyfriend asshole and you should pay.
When SHE cheats, you’re a s~~~ty boyfriend asshole – who didn’t take care of her needs – and you should pay?

F~~~ that s~~~. Somethings wrong with the math.

When you’re an asshole no matter WHAT you do, then you may as well just go ahead and BE that asshole. RIGHT? Not so “depressing” after all. You can consider it a major liberation and relief of pressure, stress, and can strike 100 things off your list of things you blamed yourself for. You’ll drop 100 pounds — overnight.

PaulRevere wrote:

I need some guidance.

Start there and already by tomorrow, you’ll begin to feel right as rain.
You can’t fall off the floor. And that’s the BEST news anywhere.

PaulRevere wrote:

I don’t remember a single relationship where I feel it was of equal participation.

Precisely my point. If you have to be constantly operating on a higher plane than she… then by definition, you are always going be “alone”. It’s a virtual guarantee – even in a relationship. There is no “equal partnership”. A 50/50 relationship is a female myth.

“Do you want to go for a picnic or to my parents for dinner?”
“What do you want for dinner tonight? Chicken or steak.”

Boom. S~~~ test. You had better select from one of her controlled choices, or else. That’s not a 50/50 relationship. A 50/50 relationship means you get to say “neither, I want to stay home and watch the game” – or – “I want beer and pizza”…. and you won’t get any argument from her. How many times does that happen?

So again, you’ll be treated like the asshole even in your bulls~~~ “50/50 relationship” – which is not on her menu. And what does the guy do? BLAMES HIMSELF for not picking the right one.

Why men blame themselves and allow themselves to get depressed over not making damn near EVERYTHING ABOUT — HER is a goddam mystery. Eventually, you may even laugh and find it funny. And the next time you have a drink, it won’t be because you’re depressed… it will be to celebrate your plain refusal to play emotional Russian Roulette anymore.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[PaulRevereParticipant 35]

I’m not sure how often I’ll be around. But from here on out I’m going to do my best to be positive. While my situation is more or less f~~~ed for reasons not posted(and of my own accord really), I feel no need to spread discontent. What I would like to get out of this is something positive from other men who know how s~~~ works and I’ll do my best to bring the same. Now that i’ve broken the seal this seems like it could get reaaaaallly interesting!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PaulRevere wrote:

I’m not sure how often I’ll be around.

No obligation. You’re certainly welcome whenever you’re inspired. Think of MGTOW as that pebble in your pocket. It doesn’t love you or do much…but it’s there. We will help you if we can. Even when it gets rough.

But maybe you can answer what is the meaning of “disregard misplaced commas you f~~~ing Nazis”??

Are you concerned about the grammar police?

Unlike other forums where women are around, we actually have the ability to understand there are other people from other countries in the world. So when their English isn’t perfect, we don’t grammar Nazi their asses like a woman would because she’s too dumb to even IMAGINE typing in a second or third language..

English isn’t my first language or my second. But women online have actually tried to deflect the point by posting out a TYPO. If bitch were as eloquent in 1 language as men are in programming, music and Morse Code, and 2 languages before English, she wouldn’t even go there.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings PaulRevere, thanks for your introduction.

MGTOW’s know that the following is a fairy tale or false narrative: “Only pathetic men get treated badly by women. A Strong and Healthy Man has nothing to fear from a Woman. And a Woman will become naturally submissive to a Real Man.”

Just because you haven’t stepped on any land mines, doesn’t mean that they don’t exist. It is wise to seek out a map of where they are buried. This website contains the maps. You can learn from another man’s mistakes.

Also, it is good to have words and ideas to process what has and still is happening in a man’s life. MGTOW is a great place to explore ideas and develop a plan for the future. The Archives are very helpful.

Most of us here believe that the pain of dealing with the “red pill” is much better than living in “blue pill hell.”

The following definition of Briffault’s Law has just hit me like a ton of bricks and it explains a lot. On the surface, it was too obvious, but then with time it sank in more.
In the past, I would pay too much attention to the words that came out of my ex-girlfriends mouths. They would manipulate me into believing that it was my fault, whenever they broke up with me.

Briffault’s Law:
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191

1. Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

2. Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)

AWALT

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Grim-Participant 454]

@paulrevere

Welcome to the forum man! Sorry to hear that you’re going through a rough time right now. If you need some motivation, here’s something I learned from my experience:

There’s no such thing as rock bottom. There’s also no such thing as being on top. Which is why you can always keep improving yourself.

Also, if you need some guidance, search Tom Leykis on Youtube. He’s one of the greatest teachers I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to.

Plus, we MGTOWs don’t really give a s~~~ about grammar. At least not in a chat room or forum. I also find it f~~~ing hilarious that when women/manginas try to correct us on grammar, they never use proper capitalization or punctuation. And they have the nerve to point out a f~~~ing typo!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome PaulRevere
I can’t say it any better than what has already been said. When I joined, I too felt a great epiphany and came to believe that the truth about relationships with women was not what I was indoctrinated my entire life to believe that it was.
Also, I felt that I was different from most here in that my wife died (second marriage) When dating after that I found that there was only psycho-babes out there and no matter what I did I would be wrong. To this day I do not trust a woman.
As for depression and alcohol, I don’t hear depression in your post. I hear a man that wants to believe in something but has been told all his life that he is wrong NOT SO You have an opportunity to re-make yourself the way YOU want. Take it. Alcohol? When she died and for about 4years after I drank so much that I learned how to make my own scotch. (Legal in Canada within limits). And then another epiphany “if I can do this why can’t I make myself over the way I want” and one thing lead to another. Eventually I stumbled across MGTOW and felt like I had come home. I was welcomed much like you and have received tons of good advice just from reading the forums and other guys’ experiences. You may not agree with everyone but you will find a new Enjoy and WELCOME to the forums! I look forward to hearing more from you.

[Anonymous 42]

PaulRevere wrote:

depression and alcohol.

Did someone call? Depression and ALCOHOL???
Dude, you called it! print it out on a sticky label and slap it on your forehead! A healthy body supports a healthy mind! print that out too and slap it next to the first label!
My life didn’t improve until I dropped all the bulls~~~! F~~~ing around, wasting time, and not preparing for the future! You still have time, if the MGTOW bug bores it’s way into your b~~~~ you’ll be of and flying like a metaphoric raging bull!

The one thing you need to recognize is how much deep subliminal programming you’ve been exposed to via mass media that’s designed to diminish the value, integrity, and masculinity of all men! The woman’s rfights movement put this virus in motion, today there’s literally tens of thousands of strains, it’s so real, and so wide spread, we can see it in all indications that men are abandoning marriage, relationships, and women, ridding themselves of the virus, and feeling real and alive for once in their lives. Welcome to MGTOW, where the virus of feminism is dissected, Geno-mapped, and put on display.
We have the only antidote to this monstrous virus known in existence, and it all comes in an easy to swallow red pill
It washes all the blue stains away….
Welcome to MGTOW Mr. Revere, we’re from the same neck of the woods! 1 if by land, 2 if by sea, we’re MGTOW, it’s a femvasion light all 3!!

[HitmanParticipant]

Welcome!

[PaulRevereParticipant 35]

Oh in all honesty I have no idea. It meant nothing offensive. Though I am sure there are many misplaced commas. My first post may have been heated. haha

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