Going to the prostitutes: a cost/risk/benefit analysis

[Fast OrelParticipant 110]

Hello folks, I’ve been lurking for some time now and just decided to register and upgrade my account.

I will also introduce myself in the proper forum section but since it’s a long story I’ll do it when I got the time to do so.

I feel the need to say THANK YOU tho, because discovering the MGTOW way of life and this forum in particular has been one of the most important moment of my life lately. Indeed, I’ve been MGTOW for some time now, without knowing that others men had made that choice too and without knowing it had a name, and now, knowing I’m not alone living this way had been some kind of a relief for me since I was questioning myself about my mental sanity…

But back to the topic I would like to discuss with you guys, and that is prostitutes !

I’m 34 and to be honest, I still feel the need to have sexual relations with women. But for me, dating and relationships are not options anymore, knowing what I now know and having swallowed red pills after red pills I just cant put up with women s~~~ anymore.

So frankly, I ran some kind of a cost/risk/benefit analysis and came to the conclusion that going to prostitutes is the cheapest and easyiest option (as opposed to dating or hitting on girls at the bar).

In theses examples, when I tell you about hookers and prostitutes, I mean the higher end ones. In my area (western europe) you can get a 10/10 25 years old russian/asian/latina for $150/hour who smells and looks good and will receive you in a nice condo with a smile and be very nice to you. Please, don’t do cheap street whores, they are ridden with nasty STDs ..

So if you date, or try to score a girl at the bar the money spent is roughly the same than going to hookers whereas you won’t have to invest any sort of significant time and effort with prostitutes.

You’ll also bang beautiful girls 10/10 in their primes years paying upfront whereas the competition with other men at the bar makes all the girls, even the most ugly ones, really picky ! You’ll be lucky to score a 6 or 7 at the bar, unless you are Chad obviously…

As for the risk, you still have to wear a condom with the bar girl as with the prostitutes so the STD risk is about the same, but the prostitute won’t accuse you of rape the next day !

I’ll add that the prostitute, as a business women, will actually DO TRY to make her CLIENT satisfied (yes, suddenly you CAN have a blowjob and anal sex !) at least for the sake of having him coming back, whereas the “normal” girl will, most of the time, be 100% passive thinking she’s already done her part giving you access to her golden pussy !

She’ll just lay there on her back, legs wide open, half-drunk, and all you got after spending $100+ dollars, hours of your precious time dealing with her s~~~ tests and having endured countless rejections from other girls at the bar, is just boring, lousy, low quality sex with a half-drunk, half-decent-looking passive piece of meat who will have regrets the next morning and call you a rapist !

Last but not least, when you are MGTOW and just going to see hookers once in a while to satisfy a biological need, you are practically removing ALL power from women who now just can’t control you anymore with their pussy and will be left alone screaming “where all the good guys gone” and that is why they hate prostitutes !

Hookers will also teach you that pussy is in fact a very, very cheap commodity that women try to sell us at a very, very inflated premium price (relations~~~, financial and emotional support, commitment, protection and hard work to buy her s~~~ and make her happy ect…)

Once you learned that, you will not see women as you used to. At that point, you will have understand that you have ZERO obligation to put up with their crap and that you do not need them to live a life of bliss and happiness on your own, going your own f~~~ing way !

What do you guys think ?

Note: please excuse my english, it is not my language…

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Going YOUR OWN WAY means DOING WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU when it comes to matters such as these.

If you’re looking for Agreement then you shall find that among some members, and if you’re looking for the opposite then you will also find that among others, but ONLY YOU KNOW IF IT’S THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR YOU.

In other words, Do WHATEVER YOU WANT !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Fast OrelParticipant 110]

Well, actually I’ve already made my choice and I go there from time to time when I feel the need so I’m not looking for an agreement, just wanted to share my thought and curious about what other guys think about this topic !

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

Hello Fast Orel. I look forward to reading your introduction.

You will find quite a few people here use prostitutes and quite a few can’t be bothered and would sooner keep their money. Its personal really. I would suggest that the important thing is not to spend you life chasing women one way or another. Sex for its own sake is not the goal of a man in life. Reproduction maybe a biological goal but sex is just a path to that goal. A man chasing a lot of entertainment sex that only leaves him poorer is just another example of your work going in to woman’s pocket in return for what? A bit of compliant company.

Sex and women may have a role in a man’s life but they should not be things against which he defines his happiness or for which he sacrifices more than due effort. Invest in yourself before investing in whores. Its no big deal and I do not want to labour the point. It is fine to have the odd whore if it floats your boat, it is just that when a man mentions it in his first post one wonders if it is a big deal to him. A man for whom whores are a big deal is just another pussy beggar.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Fast Orel wrote:

and curious about what other guys think about this topic !

Depending on who is around and whose replying you shall hear both agreement and disagreement.

There are Men on here that date, attempt pump n dump, use prostitutes, and also a fair share of monks.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 12]

Started using them when I was 17 when I was still a virgin. That was back in the early 90’s. Even back then I just didn’t want the drama of a woman and also figured it would be cheaper overall. So if you do want physical fun every now and again they are a good way to go.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Well, I’m 34 too, more than a year full monk.

I had used the services of pros before, however while I was functional the climax was not posible, waste of money.

Here in Spain a high end scort is about 120-300€, depends on location, club, the girl, service provided, etc.

Pros: cheaper than marriage, fast and simple, not like a date. You get what you paid for, no excuses, although I wold understand if she doesn’t want anal after seeing you have 3 legs.

Cons: STD… I don’t really know I mean regular girl are Soo promiscuous this days they might have even more std than scorts, however in my medical practice I have seen a few sick girls and they where sex workers… just saying, here in Spain is stimated 2% of sex workers have HIV, is lower than vih prevalence in south of Dominican Republic (between 8-12% in general population).

And yes I have the need of minimum of intimacy to have good sex, weird coming from carnage, but if I’m having sex with someone I don’t know I can’t stop thinking (this bitch got something).

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

As a cost benefit analysis professional women win every time.

Would you ask your wife for legal advice or go to an attorney? Well, don’t ask your wife for professional sex services.

Your wife’s an amature with a vested interest in withholding sex from you for goods and services. She is supposed to be the only one with access to your dick. You signed a contract. Everyone witnessed it.

The professional girl doesn’t give a s~~~ about you or your dick, expect when it wants to pay for some company.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Fast OrelParticipant 110]

Carnage wrote:

Cons: STD… I don’t really know I mean regular girl are Soo promiscuous this days they might have even more std than scorts, however in my medical practice I have seen a few sick girls and they where sex workers…

Indeed, the STDs is the real downside here… But TBH I really wonder how many regular girls have them compared to hookers, at least pros are more aware and take action to minimize risks… Regular girls might feel immortal and invincible, might take the wrong decision being drunk or just don’t like the condom.. I had girls telling me the odd “Im allergic to latex” line more than once… And at least high end escort girls have perfect hygiene, something I cant say about regular girls nowadays..

[Anonymous 7]

Sheet $150 is cheap compared to what you would otherwise have to spend to get into the pants of a super-hot bitch in her prime.

OTOH…
I can make a vagina puppet with my hand.

[HermitParticipant]

Fast Orel wrote:

In theses examples, when I tell you about hookers and prostitutes, I mean the higher end ones. In my area (western europe) you can get a 10/10 25 years old russian/asian/latina for $150/hour who smells and looks good and will receive you in a nice condo with a smile and be very nice to you.

I’ll add that the prostitute, as a business women, will actually DO TRY to make her CLIENT satisfied (yes, suddenly you CAN have a blowjob and anal sex !) at least for the sake of having him coming back,

What do you guys think ?

I’ll tell you what I think. I think you’re a lucky f~~~er. If you can get a “high end whore” for $150.00/hour, you’re doing very well. I’d love to have access to prostitutes like that.

Where I live, there is nothing like that around. There aren’t many whores and if you do find one, they’re nasty as s~~~ and you’d get an STD even if you wear 3 condoms soaked in bleach and gasoline.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

“You don’t pay prostitutes for sex, that part is free. What you pay prostitutes for, is for them to go away afterwards.” (Charlie Sheen)

Charlie might be a Grade-A nutjob, but that man has some serious wisdom.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Fast OrelParticipant 110]

Hermit wrote:

I’ll tell you what I think. I think you’re a lucky f~~~er. If you can get a “high end whore” for $150.00/hour, you’re doing very well. I’d love to have access to prostitutes like that.

Where I live, there is nothing like that around. There aren’t many whores and if you do find one, they’re nasty as s~~~ and you’d get an STD even if you wear 3 condoms soaked in bleach and gasoline.

I agree ! The escort girls in my area are jaw dropping. Let me tell you, I went to see a stunning busty asian last time, like the ones you can see on porn sites, booked her for an hour, when I arrived she was with a “friend” that was even prettier, only to get told I could have both of them for $50 more (that was for 30 minutes but franckly, can you last an entire hour with two asian hotties pumping your dick ?)

Who would want an EXPENSIVE WIFE after that ? $200 may sound a big chunk of money but let me tell you, it is NOTHING compared to what you spend on a real girlfriend or wife. The trick is not to get addicted to whores, witch is a risk too ! I’m reasonable and only go there once about a month or two… Which is enough for me.

[HermitParticipant]

Fast Orel wrote:

Hermit wrote:

I’ll tell you what I think. I think you’re a lucky f~~~er. If you can get a “high end whore” for $150.00/hour, you’re doing very well. I’d love to have access to prostitutes like that.

Where I live, there is nothing like that around. There aren’t many whores and if you do find one, they’re nasty as s~~~ and you’d get an STD even if you wear 3 condoms soaked in bleach and gasoline.

I agree ! The escort girls in my area are jaw dropping. Let me tell you, I went to see a stunning busty asian last time, like the ones you can see on porn sites, booked her for an hour, when I arrived she was with a “friend” that was even prettier, only to get told I could have both of them for $50 more (that was for 30 minutes but franckly, can you last an entire hour with two asian hotties pumping your dick ?)

Who would want an EXPENSIVE WIFE after that ? $200 may sounds a big chunk of money but let me tell you, it is NOTHING compared to what you spend on a real girlfriend or wife. The trick is not to get addicted to whores, witch is a risk too ! I’m reasonable and only go there once about a month or two…

No, $200.00 sounds like a very small amount for two very hot young gals letting you do to them whatever you want. Something like that would cost at least $1,000.00 here.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Welcome Orel! You MAY find this thread useful:

I just PAID for sex.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I have no disagreement with anything you posted, except that you seem to make a distinction between prostitutes and other women (like the girls at the bar you mentioned). By my definition, a prostitute is a woman who trades sexual services for money. How do you distinguish that girl from women at the bar? You put the prostitute’s money in her hand. You put the other girl’s money in the bartender’s hand, the waiter’s hand, the florist’s hand, the door man’s hand, the ticket agent’s hand…

But really, I don’t see the difference in the two transactions. You get sex and your money changes hands.

If I have to pay for a back rub, a blow job, an oil change, or a car wash, why would I pay an amateur more money to do an amateur job than I pay a professional to do a professional job. I was married for about 2 years, and it ended up costing me about $100,000 in American dollars by the time it was over. That’s roughly 2,000 a week. That works out to about $300 per day for 2 years.

While it’s true that I got laid some during that time. I did not get laid by those 2 Asian girls every damned day for 2 years straight. But if I had been paying market rates, that’s what I would have gotten.

In my marriage, I got basically the same transaction, but I was severely overcharged…

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[HermitParticipant]

BrainPilot wrote:

I have no disagreement with anything you posted, except that you seem to make a distinction between prostitutes and other women (like the girls at the bar you mentioned). By my definition, a prostitute is a woman who trades sexual services for money. How do you distinguish that girl from women at the bar? You put the prostitute’s money in her hand. You put the other girl’s money in the bartender’s hand, the waiter’s hand, the florist’s hand, the door man’s hand, the ticket agent’s hand…

But really, I don’t see the difference in the two transactions. You get sex and your money changes hands.

If I have to pay for a back rub, a blow job, an oil change, or a car wash, why would I pay an amateur more money to do an amateur job than I pay a professional to do a professional job. I was married for about 2 years, and it ended up costing me about $100,000 in American dollars by the time it was over. That’s roughly 2,000 a week. That works out to about $300 per day for 2 years.

While it’s true that I got laid some during that time. I did not get laid by those 2 Asian girls every damned day for 2 years straight. But if I had been paying market rates, that’s what I would have gotten.

In my marriage, I got basically the same transaction, but I was severely overcharged…

……..but you had the love of a good woman……………..

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

It cost 150 to 250 an hour just north of NYC. But the girls are skanks. For quality girls your looking at 400-500 for an hour.

Dinner with a Match.com girl, 150.00. Dates before sex, 3. Cost for first sex 350.00 plus two messages, three phone calls and three nights of mundane conversation with a psycho bitch.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

Do what thou wilt.

Money is God.

[Anonymous 1]

Fast Orel wrote:

agree ! The escort girls in my area are jaw dropping. Let me tell you, I went to see a stunning busty asian last time, like the ones you can see on porn sites, booked her for an hour, when I arrived she was with a “friend” that was even prettier, only to get told I could have both of them for $50 more (that was for 30 minutes but franckly, can you last an entire hour with two asian hotties pumping your dick ?)

Damn, the ones in my area are really beat looking. I had considered hiring a professional a few times in my teenage years. I definitely would have paid the extra $50 that sounds awesome.

I may try it one day, just to see what its like.

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