Glorious Shaming

[jambearParticipant 282]

Yesterday I was invited to lunch by some of my family. Just my siblings and some cousins. I tend to turn these offers down as they tend to bring up the same conversations and I have no urge to go through them again. But for whatever reason I decided to go this time.

It started off pleasant enough. Just the usual gab about what movies are coming out and the standard family gossip. Then it went to the exact place I knew it would go (not because I am some super genius but because it always turns to this). He had just been married not even a month ago, and I have 4 years on him. Jambear my cousin asks when are you getting married?I always get this question from my family or the ever popular when are going to have children? Or even why do you not get a girlfriend? See why I avoid these get togethers.

Luckily I have learned over the past decade how to effectively deflect or out right ignore such comments. Once the niceties are over with then comes the shaming bit. Are you not lonely? Do you not want kids? Or my favorite are you gay? These things used to hurt me when I was younger but now are little more than annoyances.

I usually hide the fact that I am a MGTOW. Not for any shame mind you but because the reactions I get are usually hostile or an increase in the ridicule or shaming. But today I decided that I would try to feed them a little bit of our philosophy. Nothing red pill just some  purple pill knowledge. Just mentioned some of the unfair practices men face in family court in regards to alimony and child custody. I was directing this more to my cousin and my sisters fiance and they seemed kind of surprised at this knowledge. I got a rather positive response from my sisters fiance and a rather funny one from my cousin. He turns to me and says my wife is not like that. Mind you that I was speaking in general terms without mentioning or even eluding to anyone there. So all I could think to do was give him a warm smile get up and leave the restaurant.

Strangers shaming you is easy to brush off and ignore but when it comes from family it seems to cut a little deeper. Anyone else get this crap?

 

 

 

[YuriParticipant 185]

I shall now go ahead and butcher a quote from one of my favorite television series.

“When will you get married? When will you have children? When will you find a girlfriend? The age old cries of the opressors.”

All those questions that they ask you are the same that countless other men get asked all the time, at every age. I myself, just like you hated this and still hate this so much. Personally I just told my family outright that they will either shut their clappers or they can forget that i will ever visit again. Worked for the most part.

I recall that already from a young age, before those questions started coming up, family didn’t even ask. They just went on talking, sometimes in the third person. “Once you get married and…” or “Once you have your own children and…”, or even “Once you finish University then….” This went on from age 5 to about age 16 before the “When will you find a girlfriend?” question started coming up. And i despised every single syllable of it. Thankfully i was aware of whats going on, and it disgusted me already from that age. It almost felt like Nazi Germany, i mean come on.

 

The right man at the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I experience it covertly. Not overtly. They wouldn’t last a minute if it was fired directly at me. Too well-prepared for that crap and they are clueless.

Never made a “red-pill” or MGTOW reference in public until a couple of weeks ago when I met my first real-life PUA. He was the first guy I officially had a conversation with about it. It was kind of exciting actually. We almost finished each other sentences. It took about 20 seconds for him to understand and appreciate MGTOW. Too many men won’t understand in their entire lives. But he got it right away and admitted he was struggling with similar concepts.

I will tell you about a good friend of 25 years (since grade school) who I no longer speak to because his wife doesn’t want him hanging out with me. He was out of town and we had dinner once after bumping in each other… and she’s working her ass off to try and set me up with one of her single fat friends who’s looking for a wallet.

Then, in the car she tells me not to tell her husband. (that we went out for a bite and few drinks)

WTF?? What do you mean don’t tell your husband. Ive known him for 25 years. If it ever comes up I will absolutely mention it – and I sure as s~~~ won’t deny it. She got so f~~~ing mad, because deep in her hamster brain, she wanted to think it was a “date” and she was cheating without actually cheating. You know, to bring a little excitement into her otherwise mundane existence. Because of this, she made every effort for us not to connect.

What does that tell you. Some “marriage” huh.
Built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

A couple of months later, he and another mutual buddy of ours went out for drinks at Hotel lounge and he says “when are you getting married? Nobody wants a 50+ year old man”. (we are not 50. He’s just thinking way ahead)

The one guy was divorced after 4 months, so he doesn’t get got say a f~~~ing thing to me about “marriage” anymore.
But this guy was bordering on annoyingly rude.

HE: “Nobody wants a 50+ year old man”

ME: “God I hope you’re right. I was thinking this s~~~ would never let up. It’s not even true George Clooney is 55.”

HE: “Yeah but you’re not George Clooney.”

ME: “Is that the point? You told me nobody wants a 50 year old man, but that’s bulls~~~.”

He realized he f~~~ed himself into a corner now. But I’m convinced he’s pushing because he wants other guys to be miserable too. I got whiff of this when he emailed one day and asked me to show him how to change all his passwords because he is sick and tired of his wife reading all his email. WOW. Where do I sign up for a marriage like that? Please can I? NO thanks.

ME: “Marriage is for gays”.

This practically sent him over the edge. (He’s 100% blue pill liberal leftist Obama). I swear he wanted to punch me in the face for that. He couldn’t even criticize me for saying it. They never can. When the subject of marriage comes up, just snicker and say it out loud in front of them. “Marriage is for gays”. they don’t know how to respond. It’s my go-to line to shut these idiots up.

My gift to you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jambearParticipant 282]

“Marriage is for gays.” I feel like you handed me a tactical nuke here KeyMaster. Thanks 😀

[GmanGomezParticipant 7]

“Marriage is for gays” I now have the verbal equivalent of a nuclear weapon on white knights and bluepill heads, thank you KeyMaster

[KeymasterKeymaster]

My pleasure! Glad you see the value in it.

It’s… PERFECT.

I pulled it out and dropped it at a dinner party. Right in the middle of the table of 8. Everyone was like “so when are you gonna grow up and get married?”. All eyes were on me as I was chewing. When I swallowed and wiped my mouth with my napkin, the anticipation grew as they were all waiting for a response…

“Marriage is for gays”.

And there it was, this great big mushroom cloud in the dining room. BOOM.
It was so beautiful. You could hear a mouse fart. And I just went back to eating my desert.

I guarantee you. NOBODY at the table ever forgot it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ncookBlocked -70]

Don’t let your family define who you are.

[Anonymous 5]

My pleasure! Glad you see the value in it.

It’s… PERFECT.

I pulled it out and dropped it at a dinner party. Right in the middle of the table of 8. Everyone was like “so when are you gonna grow up and get married?”. All eyes were on me as I was chewing. When I swallowed and wiped my mouth with my napkin, the anticipation grew as they were all waiting for a response…

“Marriage is for gays”.

And there it was, this great big mushroom cloud in the dining room. BOOM.
It was so beautiful. You could hear a mouse fart. And I just went back to eating my desert.

I guarantee you. NOBODY at the table ever forgot it.

I know this is an old topic but YES! Funny as f~~~! Snorted tea through my nose. Hahaha!

[Red PillParticipant 11]

“Marriage is for gays.”  <<< Had me rolling!  What a great response!  Let the gays have it, they want it so bad, and only Beta-b!tch men get themselves married anyway.  You don’t STAY attracted to your wife, especially after being married awhile, so it ends up being a “beard” that you’re not even attracted to, who annoys you, and you end up following your natural nature to stray and at least fantasize about prettier wormen.  (that was a typo, “wormen” but I think it’s my new favorite word now)

Marriage is a “beard” to hide the fact that you’re too much of a coward to go your own way.  .  .    because your gay . . .

[SynchrogeddonParticipant 37]

Funny KeyMaster! I said “marriage is for gays” a few months ago. There is one older guy almost 40 years old in my work. He entered room where I work and said: “Who isn’t married is gay. When will you marry? You gays?” – pointing finger at me and the one other unmarried guy. So I responded: “marriage is for gays”. I think they felt insulted… it is catholic homophobic Poland where I live so “gay” word is biggest insult you can say to catholic (they all are, I’m atheist).

 

I usually get those questions from mother when we speak on phone (I’m living alone in other city). The most shocking thing I heard from my mother (I can’t believe to this day she said that) is that I will become pedophile if I don’t have family. I learned to force my mother to change topic every time she starts talking about girlfriends etc, if no then we end our talking immediately (I do end it). I’m avoiding the rest of family so I’m not giving them chance to insult me. 2-3 years ago I got lecture on this topic from my mother, aunt and her slutty 11-13 year old catholic daughters. It looked like that:

They: Do you have a girlfriend?

Me: No.

Cousin (female): He wants to have a wife from start. [LOL! I thought I would vomit on those s~~~-heads. They were clueless.]

Me: No. I will never have one. I don’t even want to.

They: [Deeply shocked] Why?

Me: What for? [let them talk]

They:

Me:

They: [Ended discussion like always with talking that some witch will catch me and I will change my mind]

 

One of the weird things I heard from aunt when talking about having wife was that after I will become 30 years old (we were talking when I was 26) I will not have any will to have family so I need to hurry now! She explained that my dick would not stand up after I will be older than 30 years old. I was going to ask about exact day, hour and minutes when my dick will be useless and I will become impotent but I noticed my uncle was embarrassed so I didn’t say anything… Oh boy… I would rather wait until I’m 30!

[….Participant 305]

I still get that from time to time…even at my age…as a dog owner , I simply tell them I chose unconditional love and no sex over conditional sex and no love…it is funny to watch as the hamsters try to spool up (both male and female)…if they persist…I tell them that I would rather have my late great Husky back than have a harem of women. That usually shuts them up…ESPECIALLY the women. I realize this probably does not help you Jambear ,but my point is to be creative and show them that what may be important to them does not mean it is important to you. @ Keymaster…you are right…to say that nobody wants a 50 plus man is bulls~~~…I can tell you that for a fact…money and security are a lot more attractive to them than their saggy t~~~ are to me…more like nobody wants a 50 plus women

[tsParticipant 109]

Geriatric females in my country already found out how to exploit gay marriage and marry their (non-gay) female friends just for accessing national widow pension, once one of them dies. If being a bachelor becomes illegal, the next sane choice would me “marrying” another (heterosexual) MGTOW and then tell everyone to f~~~ off. Of course, there would be no shared household and no “family” whatsoever and no children. I would even make sense, to “marry” cross-country to get a free citizenship with a second passport this way. Please don’t take this idea too serious. 😉

I’m now in my mid 30s and in the average marriage age for my country (it raised by ten years during the last two decades). So the girlfriend talk intensifies. My mother is totally deluded and convinced herself, I will still find a “special someone”, although I’m not even looking, I just avoid any contact with these entitled, impertinent brats calling themselves women since my mid 20s.. I have the advantage, that over here they don’t even look attractive, even if they are very young. Negative selection already did its thing, so most girls look more ugly than me, but they still expect to be treated like beautiful unicorns. And of course mentioning this fact alone, the topic immediately changes to the “it’s about love and passion” bulls~~~. It’s so pathetic.

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