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Red Knight 1 year, 11 months ago.
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Hello, gentlemen,
I used to post here every so often, mostly when I was feeling down. After all, misery loves company. Now I try to limit my time on the internet. But I have a cushy, well-paying job that has lots of downtime (woo, STEM FTW), so I still go on the internet sometime.
I just turned twenty-four. Things are going well for me. If nothing absurd happens, I’ll retire some time in my thirties (possibly earlier; no kids FTW!). I’m in shape (my resting heart rate is below 60 bpm). And I have a (somewhat) stable, super-chill lady friend (don’t worry, she always makes me use a condom!). I’ve grown a lot more confident and a lot more sure of myself. I feel bad for those whose college years were the best years of their life; my life is way better now than in college.
A day before my birthday, I met with a friend who’s a year older than I. He told me to enjoy being twenty-four, because after that it’s downhill from there. “Why?” I asked. “Because once you’re twenty-five, you’re half-way to thirty. Once you’re thirty, you’re almost forty, and once you’re forty you’re almost fifty.”
I have a little low-key Dorian Gray anxiety going on now. I have my youth, my looks (don’t mean to brag), and my health, but I know it’s inevitable that my body starts to break down. Both my grandfathers are bald. My hair is super thin; I know its days are numbered.
I wanted to post a thread here, because I know there are plenty of dudes here that insist that being middle-aged is way better than being in your twenties. So I wanted to ask you: what are the advantages of being older? Here are the ones I can think of:
More money (therefore, more free time)
More wisdom (but your fluid intelligence is lower; that sucks! As an engineer, my fluid intelligence, i.e., my ability to absorb new concepts and paradigms, is my livelihood)
And that’s actually all I can think of. I welcome your input.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
If you take good care of yourself when you’re young, you’ll be in pretty damn good shape when you’re older. Hitting 25 was a milestone for me since that’s when the car insurance company lowered my rates. Suddenly, at 25, I was considered “responsible”. It makes me think of The Logical Song by Supertramp. At 63 I’m still waiting to “become old”. I ran into a guy on the ski slopes once. He was worried he wouldn’t be able to handle the intermediate run he was looking at. He was 84 and he had breathing problems…on the ski slope at 84. That’s the kind of old I intend to become. Only 21 more years to go!
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
Yeah, apparently with exercise you can slow the decline of your fluid intelligence. I was a couch potato until 23. So glad I developed good habits!
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
Benefits of being older (IMO):
1. No more giving a S*** about the uncontrollable physical attributes (hair loss, face aging, etc.)
2. Giving a S*** about things that are more important
3. Realizing that you are getting older and start planning trips or starting hobbies (I’m woodworking)
4. Knowing what you are worth, and defining yourself however you likePlus what you’ve listed. I’m 35, will be 36 in April. I attempted to avoid my hair loss for years and then one day I had my best friend take clippers to my head. Best decision I ever made.
Achieve Individual Greatness!
(don’t worry, she always makes me use a condom!)
In my opinion middle age is better because you know more of who you are and what you want. You also begin to value your time more, step back and get a big-picture view of your life. BUT, you are right in that your energy and ability to learn wanes a bit.
My biggest problem is with the statement you made here though. there should be, if you are controlling your life, no statement like this. The statement should be – Don’t worry I always choose to wear a condom.
Here you make it sound like you want not to, which if you want to get her pregnant I understand, but otherwise, especially how it is worded, feels like you’re giving up your control over the situation, which the rest of your post indicates you’re not.
I know, probably nit picking and maybe a bit of jealousy here as I wish I was in your situation at 24 again, but seriously think about who is in control there.
Other than that, keep living your life right and planning for the future…
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
What’s your diet like?
How often do you eat per day? Are you the type who has a diet coke or coffee on regular basis?I’m asking because if you aren’t the type of person who has been working out since a young age or just ate what ever you wanted (junk food, food in a box) because you did constantly work out… Get ready. Because after 26 (or even sooner) all that ends. Your metabolism starts to slow down and you will put on all the wrong type of weight in all the wrong places. Or you’ll just get real skinny and pasty. Things will start to grow where you don’t want them to (hair etc).
What you eat has everything to do with how your skin and hair will look (do you get dandruff, or flakey skin?).
It will also effect your mood.Some of it is genetics yes, but you’d be surprised how much of it has to do with how you eat and sleep.
Since you’re in stem I recommend getting an exam that let’s you know what nutrients you’re deficient in. They have kits you can even do from home that cost around 200.00.
Most people aren’t getting enough vitamin d, a, k, b12. Most people are also addicted to sugar and don’t even know it.
I cut sugar out once I hit my early thirties. Best decision I ever made. I cut out caffeine in high school but I was still consuming tons of s~~~ filled with sugar. Sugar is really the silent killer that no one talks about. Everyone views it as harmkes because it’s “giving candy to anyone baby” type bulls~~~.
My rule of thumb is to eat food that has touched the least amount of hands as possible. I wish to hunt my own meat one day, but for now I just cook all my own meals now. No more eating out.
This took me years to get to this point though, and lots of planning.Sad to say if you’re a vegetarian things will not end we for you. This isn’t the reason why the term “soy boy” even exists, and it’s an actual epidemic among men eating things with too much estrogen. Paul Joseph Watson has a great video on the soy boy phenomenon.
Now, with my diet I can not work out for days if I want and still feel amazing,as opposed to my other diets that would leave me a wreck if I skipped one week of exercise.
If you’re interested I practice the ketogenic diet combined with intermittent fasting and plan to live forever (look up the word autophagy).
I was never into my health at all while I was younger. There wasn’t any kind of perceived drop off until my 40’s.
IOW, being concerned in your 20’s is probably overkill. You should still be looking after your body, but it’s likely not to make any real difference for decades.
Age CAN bring wisdom, but it’s really a state of mind. Your experiences will shape you positively or negatively depending on how you choose to react to them. Choose the path that makes you stronger, mentally.
Given your profession, you should be keeping your mind fully engaged and that will help later on. I’m thankful to be in a job where there needs to be a lot of problem solving. It keeps my mind young and flexible.
"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."And I have a (somewhat) stable, super-chill lady friend (don’t worry, she always makes me use a condom!)
SOMEWHAT stable? Are you prepared for the time when she starts getting “baby rabies”? Are you making sure she does not poke holes in your condoms and making sure you flush the condoms when finished? Never underestimate the nature of women…
Women do not love men. Women only love what men can provide.
It’s important to remember that as you get older, the things that are important to you also change.
You might lose some of your energy, but chances are you’ll get more pleasure out of doing nothing. Your hair will thin or go away, but you won’t care. You won’t be able to enjoy doing the things you did in your youth, but you might enjoy teaching the young. So on and so on.
Don’t worry, the future will take care of itself.
Ok. Then do it.
I’m 48 and I can’t acknowledge to myself -yet- that I’m getting old because my body is at least ten years younger. I feel like a teenager a lot of the times and I haven’t lost any speed at all.
I was a hyper-active kid in grade school then got into boxing in my youth and then picked up gymnastics and weight lifting in ‘high school’. Got plenty of exercise in the military and have always been a chimp as far as climbing and a fish under water.
Take good care of yourself, what you eat, drink, watch… Take good care of your feet and avoid chemicals as often as possible ( Meds, cleaning products… ) Don’t sweat the small stuff, stress is a killer.
I can only tell you a few of the advantages I’ve noticed so far at my age.
– Young weemins are much more cautious and hesitant to p~~~ me off. I won’t say they respect older men but at least they seem to.
– Young guys don’t look at me as if they’d like to fight me anymore and they much readily listen to my advice. For someone who cares about the lot of young men in our present f~~~ed up age, I appreciate the change.
– Lower medical bills
– Where I used to encounter frustration in others I now encounter patience. Not always but most of the time.
– I can tell a bitch I’m impotent to get rid of her and she’ll actually believe me.
Those are just off the top of my head and I’m sure other MGTOW will come up with more.
No one looks forward to getting old but the idea doesn’t bother me. I know I’ll still be able to take good care of myself at 80 if I continue doing what I’ve been doing for decades, barring an accident of course.
I want to live at least to a 120. I’ve got so much to do and so many places to see that I’m not sure if it’ll be sufficient but I’ll make do with the years God grants me.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I’m 60. I am financially secure, I know better what I want, and what I don’t want. I am more comfortable and accepting with me just being who I am. My internal dialogs better matches my external life.
Also, I am considerably happier than I was back in my 20s and 30s. Worse time on the happiness quota for men is when we’re in our 30s and 40s for men. For the most part that’s because in our 30 and 40s, men are living blue pill hell, yoked to a marriage and financial slavery.
Because once you’re twenty-five, you’re half-way to thirty. Once you’re thirty, you’re almost forty, and once you’re forty you’re almost fifty.”
Also, I get you were being humorous here, and I’m not calling you out on it. I joked the very same way when I was in my late 20s, early 30s. But that attitude will change over time. Youth has basically one thing going for it, and one thing only, and that’s youth.
Once you hit 50 or so, you may start to understand that there is a bigger palate we can paint our lives on than how much hair you have or whether or not the girls look at you when you walk by. I wouldn’t be 30 again if it came with a million bucks.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
Just enjoy the ride, and do it in style (whatever that style is to you).
Don’t beat the crap out of your body and mind, and do everything in moderation (a hard lesson to learn for me). Excess stress will age you a lot faster so avoid it when you can.Ironically, I rarely hear men I know say “50 is the new 40” (or any age comparisons), or complain about their/our age aside from “f~~~…we are getting old, but we can still outdo most of the younger guys”.
Worrying about your age is something women, the effeminate, and the narcissistic do.
At 24, you can live to 80-100 years old.
Or die tomorrow.
Why worry about it, just live and enjoy life as much as you possibly can without f~~~ing too much up 🙂There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Anonymous42Getting old sucks! I don’t care what anyone says!
As for me, I’m having a great day cobbling together another Sirus/XM satellite docking station in my work area! I saved a ton of power supplies and every array of AV cables over the years, turns out I had everything on hand when I searched the various different boxes of s~~~! Don’t throw anything useful away, some day (sure as s~~~) you’ll need it!
Getting old sucks! I don’t care what anyone says!
Oh, no. Getting old is a blast. It’s being old that sucks!
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
Misery loves company? F~~~ YOUUU.
Bitch I don’t get old, I UPGRADE.
When I wake up in the morning and stretch and my articulation crunch, I’m not old! IM CRISPY, IM DELICIOUS.
Remember we don’t get old, WE AGE, like fine wine.
Damnnnn this 1984 harvest is looking better than ever.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Wait until you hit 50 kiddo. But seriously, eat right and excercise. Don’t bank on Tom Brady agelessness, but you’ll do better than you think. I just turned 50 and I still do extreme sports, it just takes a lot longer for broken bones to heal now.
Sovereignty above all else.
What’s your diet like?
How often do you eat per day? Are you the type who has a diet coke or coffee on regular basis?I eat about twice a day (two big meals) on weekends, on weekdays, a small breakfast, a small lunch, and a moderate dinner. Diet isn’t as balanced as it could be, but it’s certainly not like the all-Midwestern coke 24-7 diet. I don’t drink soda, but I love coffee.
Though I’ve stopped listening to diet advice. It seems like they’re always coming out with contradictory messages. E.g., first it was “avoid fat, fat is a killer!” now it’s “no actually, that was a sugar industry campaign, it’s actually sugar that’s bad!” “Avoid carbs!” “Get more carbs!” F~~~ all that.
Are you making sure she does not poke holes in your condoms and making sure you flush the condoms when finished? Never underestimate the nature of women…
Flushing condoms? Do you want to f~~~ up your plumbing? Because that’s how you f~~~ up your plumbing.
I choose not to worry about stuff like that. Similarly I could choose to worry about the guy walking down the street pulling out a knife and stabbing me, but I choose not to. It doesn’t seem likely enough to be worth stressing about it.
stress is a killer.
I’m super stressed. But what exactly can you do about that? Waking up and fighting traffic (or waiting for the bus) isn’t exactly a choice.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
My body is 52. My brain says I’m still 26.
Your observations about having more $$ and free time to enjoy it are correct.
As is your observation regarding having more wisdom. I now know how things [relations~~~s, self-employment, society, etc.] work. And that knowledge is POWER.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Flushing condoms? Do you want to f~~~ up your plumbing? Because that’s how you f~~~ up your plumbing.
A Plumber to unplug your pipe might cost $500.
Paying for a Love Trophy to maturity is $300,000 minimum.
Just rolling down the road
Do not regret getting old for it is a privilege denied to many.
As for the ageing process – not sure if I allow myselft to be troubled by that.
I’ll be 47 this November. I have the physique I had at 25. Not much body fat. Muscular. I have worked out for roughly 3-6 months of every year since my early 20s.I can still knock out 10-12 pull ups. Marine pulls ups.
I mind daily and try to read a lot to keep it working properly.
Would I want to be 25 again. Not if it meant having to be stupid again.
I wasn’t stupid really – just made some stupid moves. But stupid is what stupid does.Not now. Old and wise. Ha ha.
Seriously – it gets better not worse.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
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