Getting drafted by society into "We" problems.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So, I had this video pop up YouTube in my MGTOW channel account, regarding the Syrian refugee crisis:

There is a lot of “we” need to do something about it. There was “we” are responsible for this. “We” share collective guilt over that.

Considering I have no money coming in now, and am trying to find a job, how am I supposed to deal with this collective “we” problem, when all I get is barely survival help, and nothing to get on my own feet. Yes, others have worse than me, but what makes myself think that I can do something. With this, I understand that governments do respond to situations and that is what they do. But myself? This “we”: to me is a label no one really owns, and is a kind of other place that people expect others to do, not themselves.

The Syrian crisis is one of a gazillion of other problems out there with the same.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

I hate when people say, “we” when they want someone else to do something they shouldn’t be forced to do. I have an idea. Every f~~~ that states that “we” should do something have to forfeit all their worldly belongings and be given to one of these “refugees”. Furthermore, every dime they earn until death goes straight to that “refugee”. Stop volunteering my s~~~ for someone else.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Well, I am not opposed to states trying to manage the situation. That is what they do. They do this, based on what they have in their collective wisdom (reaching for the term) in order to prevent society from totally breaking down. I have little power to change what states do, so they do what they do. It is on a personal level I have issues with this. Considering my state of being, how the heck am I supposed to do anything, so how can I be part of a “we”? Even attempts by myself to reach media about myself, gets fired upon negatively.

In short, a reason why I am MGTOW is I have too much of my own issues to tend with, that I can’t fix the world.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I agree. Why can’t “they” create a better society for themselves? I can’t really help people that don’t want to help themselves. I’d rather use tax revenue to rebuild the s~~~ty-looking urban areas in the USA than to spend money fixing broken societies in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Anonymous 18]

No where in history I believe has there been a bigger fraud than these post-2001 era wars to liberate people from nations no-one in the West gave 2-f~~~s about until they heard CNN or FOX talk about them.

Under the veil of liberation the money exchanges hands from Treasury=tax payers to military contractors. Then more money exchanges hands to re-construct what was bombed in the first place. That money goes to construction companies, followed by infrastructure conglomerates.

Bottom line: If you asked me to hand over my wallet to you, I’d say no.. But you still end up with my money. And I am never told that I am poorer and you’re richer because of it.

I just don’t hate them for outsmarting me. I envy them. F~~~ing rich bastards. The couple hundred thousand kids with missing limbs don’t enter my consciousness because well CNN doesn’t talk about it.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Remember, the word ‘we’ means ‘anybody but me’.

[Up yours, Cupcake!Participant 27]

Let me simplify things for you. You don’t owe those Syrians a goddamn thing. You owe them nothing. It is much the same with all the “we” problems. Always ask yourself whether you “owe” any kind of action on any of these “we” problems, and, if so, why? The answer is almost never yes. Then you can get to the only other questions that matter:
First: “Not owing any action on this situation, do I nevertheless care enough to act anyway?”
Second: “Would acting on this matter be beneficial or detrimental to my own interests?”

Then, if you do care, you do a cost/benefit analysis to make a rational decision. What you

do not do

is give a single f~~~ about what the person or organization trying to manipulate you with the “we” language has to say about anything.

My avatar = average twat discovering MGTOW

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

The “we” causes…I dont like it either. Every issue is becoming increasingly more global, notice that? I dont think what its going to lead us to is going to be, oh lets say ‘pleasent’.

Chinas market has a concern, our market reacts. Muslim countries fail and “we” get the luxury of taking them in. When a country as small as Greece effects markets on a global scale, then one can see where this is leading.

Expect much more “we” problems and “solutions” in the GLOBAL environment.

Resident cynic.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am only personally benefit from those laws pass that required, institutions who’s association benefits their agenda, and also those who know me personally. Anything beyond that, is what? I just don’t see it personally.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

Well, considering “our” politicians spent a busload of money arming islamist rebels in Syria, I do in one way agree “we” have a responsibilty: to kick our politicians out of govt and into the streets, butt first.
Fact is, if Bashar al-Assad hadn’t been set-up for a coup d’etat funded mostly by US money, then the crisis would never have happened.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

in order to prevent society from totally breaking down.

Any society that requires state authority to prevent it from “breaking down” doesn’t deserve to exist.

Humanity is better off without such societies.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

sidecar wrote:

richardhutnik wrote:

in order to prevent society from totally breaking down.

Any society that requires state authority to prevent it from “breaking down” doesn’t deserve to exist.
Humanity is better off without such societies.

Well the idea is to implement enough proactively to prevent future problems from happening. The collective wisdom of society gets embedded in laws and so on. That, at least, is the theory. An issue with laws is they often don’t get removed, eventhough society doesn’t need them.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

The proper response to someone drafting one by the use of “we” is to flee to Canada by agreeing, but replacing the word “you”.

“We need to do something!”
“Yes, you do.”

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Well the idea is to implement enough proactively to prevent future problems from happening.

Which is a pipe dream. And the more laws that get enacted to try to achieve that impossibility, the more ways will be created for the corrupt to game the system to their own personal benefit at the expense of others.

The collective wisdom of society…

…doesn’t exist. Wisdom lies within the individual.

And with the individual in mind, the best a society can actually do is ensure that individual mistakes lead only to individual consequences. When societies attempt the collectivist experiment of making everyone responsible for the mistakes of the individual they only disconnect mistakes from consequences, which only enable and encourages further mistakes.

In short, when someone tells you: “WE should do something!” (meaning YOU should do something – usually for them) you look them straight in the eye and tell them: “There is NO ‘we’.”

[ApplejackSpectator 235]

F~~~ this s~~~. “We” have our own problems. It’s usually stupid f~~~ing women with no sense of logic or concept of resources that cry this s~~~. “I want this.” “I want that.” “We need to do this.” With no regard to the practicality of it. HOW are we going to do it. HOW the f~~~ am I going to afford all this s~~~? The reality is, I can’t afford everything I want. I make really good money as I run multiple businesses. HOWEVER, I have to save for retirement and future bills. All that money I have in the bank isn’t just sitting there so I can spend it recklessly on whatever the f~~~ you or I want.

Women are TERRIBLE with money. What is money? Money is a representation of RESOURCES. So women don’t know how to manage resources. They have a “give me, give me, give me” mentality, but don’t know (and don’t give a s~~~) about HOW those resources get to them. The resources of the world don’t just grow on trees. Women have absolutely no concept of scarcity, supply and demand, or any other economic concepts. That’s something for “other people” to figure out. No, bitch. Every person should at the very least have a BASIC understanding of economic concepts. F~~~ing stupid, useless c~~~s.

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

The downfall of this civilization is Feminazi and Nazislam.

If those two won, y’all know the outcome.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Klaus Windamier wrote:

The downfall of this civilization is Feminazi and Nazislam.
If those two won, y’all know the outcome.

Fundamentalist religions (cases where you have a sacred text and it is up to personal interpretation), like you see around Protestantism, and Islam, will result in ongoing and endless infighting that makes it really difficult to end up having any form of sustained totalitarian state with much reach. The closes to what you have with that would be ISIS currently, and that is constantly under attack by other factions. It is like, say totalitarian Islam of some form was going to board a boat and invade the United States. Along the way, the Sunni and the Shia on the boat would go after each other’s throats, unless they learned tolerance. At that point, they stop being a threat. Militant forms of Islam will do mayhem here and there, acting as criminals, often times with bigger weapons. You see what is happen with ISIS is Iran is involved, because ISIS is Sunni, and Iran is Shia. Al Qaeda is Sunni also, and they don’t like ISIS either. To not see this reality is to not understand what is going on. It makes a nice scare label to get conformity and have an enemy to replace Communists, to beat the loyalty drums. But bigger picture, it isn’t the same.

Want to know my concern? I am concerned that the ability to fight and defeat ISIS and this militant Islamic fundamentalists, and do it without harming civilians will produce weapons that governments can use to end up taking out those who don’t conform with social norms and go along. Beat the fear drums, which do have some validity, and the end result is a police state that everyone is smiling and happy to be part of, because it is safe.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 29]

Regardless of what ” WE ” do, no amount of money or talking can fix “THEIR” problem.
It will be nothing but a waste of “OUR” time,words and money.

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