Gays and Feminism

[ArcParticipant 350]

At a surface glance, it appears that the gay community is a staunch feminist ally. Why is it that these men, who don’t really have a stake in women are willing to vote against their own self interest. I understand that due to feminism trying to pander to intersectionality, they subverted the gay rights movement and tried to make it synonymous with women’s “equality”. But can’t they see the farce? They now have more taxes to pay for services they are not applicable to and they will still be discriminated against for being men. Granted there are some like Milo Yiannopoulos that speak out against feminism, but there are plenty of gay men that pander to women. Even then, are women really even that great of friends for gay men? Don’t they just treat them as emotional tampons? Don’t they just spend time with them when they want something? I just don’t understand it, is this behavior as mainstream as it seems or is media portraying this as normal? I just want some clarity.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Since I’m neither gay or feminist, I have no comment.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

There’s been internal divisions and attempts lately to remove Gays from the LGTB community because aparently thery’re not opressed enough by feminist standards.

Puative measures levied against men in society are still going to affect gay men by proxy so i think the split between Lesbian/Transexuals and Gays/Drag Queens is growing and will only split further with time.

I don’t have an issue with gays, so i think the’re better off seperating themselves from that toxic wastedump anyway.

Even then, are women really even that great of friends for gay men? Don’t they just treat them as emotional tampons?

Yes and no, i’m not gay, but i think women and gays do tend to have commonalities, especially in their late teens/ early 20’s. I think as Gay men get a bit older they tend to view f~~ hags as an annoyance more than anything else.

Emotional tampon to me as a male is a woman who uses a man to dump her agression and negative emotions on to, i think when they go to gay men, it’s to talk about their relationship issues etc so it’s not quite the same thing as what we experience as straight men.

I could be wrong, but that’s just my two cents from what i’ve known about gay men.

[ArcParticipant 350]

MonkeyMind wrote:

There’s been internal divisions and attempts lately to remove Gays from the LGBT community because apparently they’re not oppressed enough by feminist standards.

I don’t have a problem with them either, but it just baffles me why they lend their support to a group that collectively punishes them. Maybe things are changing now or maybe all of it was just an illusion from media perception.

Emotional tampon to me as a male is a woman who uses a man to dump her agression and negative emotions on to, i think when they go to gay men, it’s to talk about their relationship issues etc so it’s not quite the same thing as what we experience as straight men.

I was under the impression that it’s just them bitching at you and/or talking about nothing but their problems as a way to vent all the time.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

The whole LGBTQI-HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community seem overly sensitive and easily ‘triggered’ if you ask me.

Just this morning Australian bloke and morning Today show host Karl Stefanovic had to apologize for using the expression tranny / trannie in relation to a transvestite who tried to rob a Channel 9 camera crew covering the Rio Olympics –

F~~~ me, lighten-up people. Here’s the innocent comment that triggered the LGBTQI-HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community s~~~storm –

The segment was fine by me. A good laugh in the morning, but the Political Correctness pansies came down on Karl like a ton of LGBTQI s~~~bricks on social media. The LGBTQI-HIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community do themselves no favours if they can’t take a joke like this on the chin. I just hope Karl’s days on TV are not numbered – he is a breath on male freshness in an overly PC, gynocentric Australian media.

#ManOut

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Yeah when it comes right down to it, I think that gays and feminists would avoid each other if they could. At best, feminists tolerate gays – probably because they don’t see gay men as a threat.

But at worst, they come up with rubbish like this.

Now I don’t know if you know much about this movie, but it’s a ridiculous arthouse piece about a gay man who’s “rescued” from himself by a straight woman, who teaches him that his homosexuality is just a repressed hatred of women, and once dealt with, he’ll be attracted to them again. I mean good Lord, the movie might as well have been called You’re Not Gay, You Just Haven’t Met the Right Woman Yet, the ongoing theory that gays have tried so hard to dispel. The fact that the female director was a hardcore feminist does not give her the right to spout homophobic garbage. It just makes her even more of a hypocrite, because she supposedly knows what it’s like to be oppressed, yet is taking a s~~~ on somebody who also knows it.

And frankly, I’d wager that most feminists feel that way. Margaret Thatcher might have had to work that much harder to be elected, but that didn’t stop her from ratifying Section 28 when she was (Google it), a law that wasn’t above tyrannising another breed just as familiar with discrimination.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[ArcParticipant 350]

Constantine wrote:

Yeah when it comes right down to it, I think that gays and feminists would avoid each other if they could. At best, feminists tolerate gays – probably because they don’t see gay men as a threat.

So what you’re saying is that they never really were allies to begin with? Are the recent puff pieces just feminists having nothing better to do so then they attack guys that aren’t even interested in them?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

I imagine that they were allies at face value. Back in the day, the feminist movement just needed as many members as possible. The more the merrier, and if a male voice even better, because according to them, a male voice had an easier time being heard. But sometimes even back then, they would speak crudely about gays (calling them f~~s and homos) any time they were mentioned, indicating that while they were willing to have them in the battle, they still didn’t wholeheartedly respect them. It’s worth noting that a group of people bent on wiping out unfair labels were not above using ethnic slurs themselves. And for gays, I’d say that it was the same deal – they got extra campaigners and didn’t have to go it alone. But I don’t think that the two sides would’ve had much to do with each other once the march was over for the day.

To this day, it’s more of the same. Feminists may act like they support the gay cause because it’s another sector of society that has experienced discrimination, but that support is rather shallow; I wouldn’t bank on it running unstintingly to the bone. Women have a hard time respecting men on any level – deep down it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t really respect gay men either, especially since gay men are a breed over whom they have no power. As for why gay men continue to pander to women, they probably don’t want to look like users after years spent engaging in the struggle. Any man today, gay or straight, gets the p~~~ tore out of him if he does anything less. Look at how much s~~~ Milo gets.

Arc wrote:

Don’t they just treat them as emotional tampons?

That’s just it. If women saw gay men as equals, they wouldn’t treat them that way. The fact that they do so sheds some light on their alliance.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[SRV StratParticipant 138]

One of my closest friends is gay. He is more of an anti feminist than 90% of the bitter men I know. He really has zero patience for their bulls~~~. Sometimes when we are hanging out he’ll go off on a rant about third wave feminism and it’s just epic.

Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. Teach a feminist to fish and she will accuse you of patronizing her, claim she knew how to do it anyway and that even if she didn't, she could easily work it out without the help of a man.

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