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Trying to have friendships with women has been the single biggest failure in my life. I have finally admitted that I don’t want them as friends. The main reasons, I believe, are as follows:
1. They hate all the social activities I find enjoyable;
2. They tend to think the hidden agenda is sex;
3. They call most often when furniture needs to be moved, something needs to be fixed, lifted, or purchased;
4. They surreptitiously try to point out all my flaws (in the beginning), then become more blunt as time drags on;
5. They like to refer to my social interaction with my male friends as “necessary to feed the adolescent ego” and a covert expression of immaturity;
6. Blame me for the 15 million years of oppression females have suffered at my hands, the hands of my forefathers and that which is yet to come from my progeny;
7. Help me better “understand” that I am not really happy but deceiving myself with self-indulgent behavior;
8. That I may be “selfish” because of my fierce independence which is “unhealthy”
9. That I am narrow minded because the aforementioned self-indulgence has clouded my judgment;
10. That without some self-improvement I will ultimately be all alone in the world;
These are just the highlights, but all this led me to wonder why any woman would bother with me, I am apparently nothing but a hot mess and clearly not worth the trouble. If I was them, I was just avoid me, that would teach me a lesson.
ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.
Women will always find excuses to hate you. All women engage in the practices you point out in your list. Are these things mentally unhealthy and damaging to your psyche? Absolutely. But it is the real world. That does not mean you cannot be friends with them. Just find women who have no problem with being called out on their s~~~ just as a man would to a male friend. Most women who are bitchy are looking for someone to disagree with them anyhow, because if you can be more grounded and calm then they are, they will respect those traits. Try to join in their emotional roller coaster drama ride, and you are seen as dog meat.
Empathy for women needs to be tempered. They are their own worst enemies. They know it, and are often too damaged to fix themselves. Never have the same empathy for women that you have for your fellow men. Women do not deserve it most times, and will abuse that empathy almost in all cases.
Tomboy women make the best partners and companions. Foreign women are a mixed bag, but make sure you do not have one masquerading as your friend when they really want to be the princess. The princesses are no longer human beings. Do not give them any respect, and keep a healthy distance from them at the work place. Learn to tell the difference and avoid the man-haters.
If you come to the realization that you have your s~~~ together, and women never will, then you can safely ignore their opinions on just about anything. Think of them as little better then children, with the same emotional maturity level that never gets past tweenie years, and you have a better picture of what you really are dealing with.
We are the more mature and able gender in sheer numbers. When most women are nice to you, it is because they are setting you up for the emotional connection they know they can use to manipulate or rob you with. Do not look to them for any support. Have strong male friends that are not the macho BS types, and you have a brotherhood that is far more reliable and loyal then any woman ever will be in your life. Women know this, which is why they have your male friends.
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“Showing weakness in front of a woman is like showing fear in front of a dog. Neither will respect you ever again.” – RSC
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
Trying to have friendships with women has been the single biggest failure in my life. I have finally admitted that I don’t want them as friends. The main reasons, I believe, are as follows:
1. They hate all the social activities I find enjoyable;
2. They tend to think the hidden agenda is sex;
3. They call most often when furniture needs to be moved, something needs to be fixed, lifted, or purchased;
4. They surreptitiously try to point out all my flaws (in the beginning), then become more blunt as time drags on;
5. They like to refer to my social interaction with my male friends as “necessary to feed the adolescent ego” and a covert expression of immaturity;
6. Blame me for the 15 million years of oppression females have suffered at my hands, the hands of my forefathers and that which is yet to come from my progeny;
7. Help me better “understand” that I am not really happy but deceiving myself with self-indulgent behavior;
8. That I may be “selfish” because of my fierce independence which is “unhealthy”
9. That I am narrow minded because the aforementioned self-indulgence has clouded my judgment;
10. That without some self-improvement I will ultimately be all alone in the world; These are just the highlights, but all this led me to wonder why any woman would bother with me, I am apparently nothing but a hot mess and clearly not worth the trouble. If I was them, I was just avoid me, that would teach me a lesson.
1. Because they’re women, so don’t bring them along on your activities. All they usually do is complain and ruin it for everyone anyway.
2. That’s because modern day feminism has taught them that men are one dimensional characters. Women’s only agenda –> more shoes. See what I did there? That’s f~~~ing annoying.
3. That’s because you’re not a friend, you’re their worker bee. They’re strong and independent until they choose not to be, and call you on the phone for some free labor. Screw that. Cash or Sex or If they’ve helped you move before, return the favor. Otherwise they can f~~~ off, they won’t be paying your chiropractor for your back problems 2 years later.
4. That’s because the more time they spend pointing out your flaws, the less time you have to notice their flaws. It also makes them feel they’ll get the upper hand on you psychologically. Women that do this are just annoying bitches really.
5. That’s because when you’re with your male friends you’re actually having fun, and not listening to their ceremonious bitching. When you’re with your male friends they can’t ask you to do free s~~~ for them. Doing free s~~~ for women is a “man up”. Screw that, since when do the vaginas get to define MY gender? They don’t.
6. Yes, they can have reparations from me. They get their reparations in the form of spending most of my tax dollars on their abortions and bc pills. Then I avoid these type of women religiously so I can’t oppress them anymore. They get their cats, I get my car, house, jet ski, PC master race, vacations etc.
7. Women would know this, because they’re constantly indulging themselves. The difference is, you KNOW what makes you happy. They indulge and they STILL don’t know what makes them happy. So they’re miserable and believe that you’re miserable too, when you’re very happy. Besides, they can’t see if the next indulgent behavior of ordering you around will make them happy, if you’re busy doing other things.
8. Well feminism teaches women to be strong and independent. Tell them you’re just following what any feminist would do. That’ll throw them for a loop.
9. How is some t~~~ going to define what has “clouded” your vision? Really? Does she think shes f~~~ing yoda? This is just more mind games to get you back on her worker plantation. If you ask her to uncloud it, she’ll just spout a bunch of s~~~ that results in less of #5. Run.
10. Women love what they consider a “fixer upper” . Make no mistake, there’s not actually anything wrong with you, you’re just not working on HER plantation. They want you to “man up” by getting down on your knees and licking her boot. Doing her activities, moving her s~~~, spending time with her, spending money on her and blah blah blah. She’s just a parasite trying to latch on. That’s the ultimate truth.
Good luck.
Anonymous11I do actually have one female friend that qualifies as a true friend. She invited me over and cooked a dinner for me last night with no strings attached.
She is the only exception to that rule ever in my life, period. Every single other female “friend” I’ve experienced was not a real friend. We’re talking emotional tampon, Mr. Fix-it, or Mr. Make My Boyfriend Behave. You know the drill. It’s mostly all about serving the special cupcake princess and having the privilege of being her orbiter which is the normal female perception of being friends. A real female true friend is probably as common as a NAWALT. Hell, they can hardly manage being friends among themselves.
It’s best to avoid them as friends unless they’ve proven they actively look after your interests just like a good male friend does.
It is quite interesting finding this topic. I was just in a bit of a argument/reality check with the single mother I am living with. I am basically sleeping on the couch and job hunting. We both came to the conclusion that men and women cannot be close friends, it does not work out. We both reached that place from very different standpoints. She also agrees with me that marriage is pointless and is not worth doing (she has been married and divorced 3 times). It is quite ironic the views we share now, but they are from radically different beliefs so we could never find common ground anymore. It is funny, once the trance of romance has worn thin, you no longer give a f~~~ about the other person, you go with your true beliefs and do not hold back.
I do not believe you can be close friends with any woman. Acquaintance is about it. Keep the bitch at a distance and do not open up to her. I will still date, if that means we are nothing more than f~~~ buddies. But I will not pretend to be a boyfriend or anything like that. No more giving women more than they deserve. Now I know everyone is different and if a woman is worthy of more respect I will give her that, I am not so bitter as to hate all women because 99% of them are trash.
I was just in a bit of a argument/reality check with the single mother I am living with. I am basically sleeping on the couch and job hunting. We both came to the conclusion that men and women cannot be close friends, it does not work out. We both reached that place from very different standpoints. She also agrees with me that marriage is pointless and is not worth doing (she has been married and divorced 3 times). It is quite ironic the views we share now, but they are from radically different beliefs so we could never find common ground anymore.
I’d check the common law marriage requirements buddy. If you get that job and you’ve been paying for that kid in ANY capacity you could be setting yourself up for a rude surprise. Do not f~~~ her. At all. You’re sleeping on the couch (platter) and the woman (dragon) is in the next room yeah? No thanks.
Not to mention if things go south and she says you attacked her, and the kid backs up the story even if untrue, you could get evicted with no say, in addition to dealing with the law. You’re in a bad spot. Stay the hell away from single mothers.
I have ONE good female friend, and I count that as an anomaly. Girl had a rough early life- mom is a raging alcoholic, dad died of a heroin OD when she was a baby, but she made the conscious decision to reject the victimhood path that’s so well-worn. She recognizes the difference in how to communicate and relate to men vs. how to communicate and relate to women, and understands reciprocity and respects boundaries. She’s no NAWALT, definitely “married up”, but worked long hours in a s~~~ job to support her (now) husband while he was in graduate school and now that he’s done and working a high-salary medical field job, she’s doing her thing in the career she wants but doesn’t pay very well. So definitely, without a doubt a hypergamist. But aside from that, speaking only in regards to the dynamic between her and myself, she has my friendship and respect because SHE’S EARNED IT. I can’t say that about any other females in my life. All of the others are either family, short-term lovers, or satellite acquaintances. Just the one real friend.
So in direct response to the OP- Keith, yeah, that’s the same s~~~ty situation most of us are in. You only have 24 hours in a day, and you still get to choose how you spend them. If you don’t give any of your time or attention to s~~~bird bitches, and instead focus on the things that bring YOU satisfaction and happiness in your own life, you’ll find that not only will you have to deal with the items on your list a whole lot less, but that when they do come up you’ll be able to dismiss it as the silly nonsense that it is. Nobody ever mistook Albert Einstein for Bozo the Clown, nor should you mistake narcissistic bullying for sage advice on how to live your life.
Anonymous9Number 2 is not a hidden agenda. It’s what you should be pursuing.
It comes down to SEX.
When you’re sitting around with a hard on, and you’re trying to repress your sexual urges because she’s a friend – that doesn’t seem like an ideal situation to me.
F~~~ trying to be a friend to women that you aren’t f~~~ing.
I’ve seen similar threads as this pop up pretty frequently. It just doesn’t work out being a friend.
You notice how it’s gay guys who can hang around women with nothing happening?
They don’t want pussy, so it’s safe for them to be a close friends
Real men don’t put up with that s~~~.
LOL! @ #7
The irony 😛My Goal: To Leave Society.
I also have one good female friend. It’s nice that we aren’t attracted to each other. It’s also nice that we are supportive of each other’s lifestyles and interests.
Having a good friend really puts into perspective how vile the bad people you come across are.
I actually have a couple chicks that are very good friends, I guess somehow I got lucky in this respect, so far…. We have never slept together but I have routinely set them up with my friends and they used to set me up with their friends (I don’t allow this any more). And in this setup process there were never any expectations or judgements passed about anything, we have all remained friends for years. I don’t get involved in utility chores for them, I tell them that he who does the playing does the paying, in other words, get the guy who is boning you to do it. Just always avoid being the shoulder to cry on, this is when I am mostly MIA. If you are into playing the PUA scene, it’s good to point out that being seen with women(especially attractive women) gives you a preselection status and will increase your chances of pickup… Here is a video of Mystery for any PUA’s in here that may not have seen it. I don’t agree with everything Mystery preaches but I have had this preselection technique work many times. I totally understand the frustration of having female friends, I have had to ditch many of them and the drama was totally not worth the benefit. Another thing to remember is to be very selective about what information you tell your female friends, because like a cat, they can turn on you at any time.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
F***ing harsh, but I have to agree.
LOL. . . indeed exsaliventxt. You are wise beyond your years.
ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.
LOL! @ #7 The irony 😛
yes Indeed! I think women do want me and all other humans with testicals to be miserable. Not sure why but it is probably because misery loves company.
Just sayin’
Keith
ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.
single mother I am living with.
lol
Youre so f~~~ed and you dont even know it. Id rather sleep in the forest or under a bridge.
Take it from someone who fell in love with a single mom. I eas living with her, paying half the rent, we got engaged, she got pregnant.
Then bam, “”miscarriage” that Im blamed for. Apparently I was too questioning of our financial situation while in bed one night, this caused stress bc she didnt want to talk. So that caused abortion, I mean miscarriage. But she didnt even bother to tell me the pregnancy went south, just calls me at work saying Id better come get my stuff on the curb, weddings off, Im homeless.
Literally, one minute Im in love “loved”, engaged, expecting kid–next minute Im single, homeless, and left to wonder if my seed is still in that woman. All unprovoked hysteria with zero remorse or mercy, dagger to heart, devastated.
I dodged a tank shell, not a bullet.
Run. Run. Run. Run. Run. Anywhere is better than there
2. They tend to think the hidden agenda is sex;
it is my one and only agenda… unless they can cook a medium rare steak for me after sex.
Men and women cannot be friends. Why would a single man even want some broad in his life?, just being in their presence gives me a terrible headache and a nauseating feeling.
"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"
I have to restate, I don’t share some of your guys’ opinions on being friends with women.
I totally disagree that you can’t be friends with a woman, and that they are only useful for sex. If you have any self control and discipline, its possible to be around even very attractive women and not go off the reservation. You just have to set hard boundaries, and make sure they understand those boundaries exist.
Once they actually understand you are ‘off the table’ as a mating partner, but are an actual ‘male friend’, and they have earned your respect by not doing some of the things you guys mention above, some of them actually come around, drop the bulls~~~, and act like a friend.
It helps if you have interests in common, for real. Philosophy, Art, whatever. I’m not a sports guy, I’ll admit, though I do watch MMA. But I know my female friends are not into that stuff, so I do it on my own, or with guy friends. Easy peasy.
Im telling you guys, its a whole ‘nuther level to get to this point, when females are actually revealing to you the bulls~~~ around you, helping you to get dates, and actually NOT judging you by the basic female standards that they apply to ‘regular guys’.
The trick is.. they are not common to find, and you have to be able to sniff them out a bit. If they are reading books that speak to real topics, that’s a good clue. If they like going out to places other than dance clubs, thats another one. Hiking, for example.. or camping are interests I have that some of my female friends have.
Part of my journey to becoming MGTOW was having female friends who revealed Red Pill stuff to me, before I ever found any men who were doing it.
So, if you cannot imagine having any interests in common with women, then maybe it’s not for you. If you can, then maybe you should carefully proceed, non sexually, and try it out.
This is how I choose to go my own way.
I’ve had female friends. But once they latch on to a beta provider I never hear from them again. Sweet!
Seconded. No sex? They’re useless.
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