Friends or foes?

[Russky2Participant 3100]

Hey fellas,

I know this topic has been posted, but would like to share my own experience with the two individuals that recently have gotten on my dump list of “friends”.

First person I knew for quite some time from college, and we’ve became pretty close buddies. We would hang out almost every week and do the normal friends staff. But lately this guy has changed quite a lot too. The guy has a “business” of selling weed and is now involved into selling other drugs too. Now personally I don’t mind weed and would smoke a joint maybe once a month or so (used to be a huge pot head).

But now whenever we hang out, if I would want to buy pot from him the guy would say that he can only sell large amounts and tries to push other drugs on to me as well. Last time I bought 4Gs and gave away most of it to my other “friend”.

So last time he calls me and asks me to hang out like usual, but also if I wanted any pot. I told him I can only buy 1g, and he said that it’s fine. Well the next day he made up some lame excuse and cancels our get together. So now I’m starting to realize that this guy uses people to lure them in and buy drugs from him by pretending to be friends.

I don’t mind him selling pot, but since he is pushing other drugs by pretending to be a friend, well this was the end of it. I don’t have that many friends, so breaking friendship is a tough choice…

Anyway on to the other dude I am now considering dumping at wasteland. So this guy owes me money for this job I helped him to do with painting (his career). The guy promised to pay me 400$ like months ago. I asked him a few times whether or not he will pay me? He would always say that he needs some more time to save enough cash, because he needs to pay bills and buy food for his kids yada yada. But the f~~~ed up thing is that the week after I helped him out, he drags me to a casino and blows like 3000$ on slots, but it was his birthday..

Well I don’t mind the guy having some fun and wasting some cash, but wouldn’t it be an honorable thing to take care of your friend first by paying up? So I kind let this one go, and about a month later I ask him again where my money was? So this time the guy says that he has my cash, and will give it to me this week. But then he forgets all about it and doesn’t contact me for a month! So I kinda let this go, because I realize that he won’t give me this money.

But the problem is not the money itself. It’s just that this guy is a f~~~ing liar, and I am getting to a point where this s~~~ doesn’t have place in my life.

What sucks about this guy is that when he invited me to hang out, and says we will go fishing or go out on this nice forest trail it always ends up with him driving down the f~~~ing Casino all the time. He also pretends like every time he takes me there, it’s always the FIRST time like I haven’t been there with him before! He would say that we are going to see Horse Racing, and then once we get there I realize that this is the same place. We do indeed go to see Horse racing, but only for about 10-15 mins, and then the guy says he wants to show me this awesome place!

So we’re back at the slots, and I’m sitting there with him p~~~ed of already. The guy doesn’t mind me as he is completely consumed my the Pavlovian effect. So I tell him that I would like to take of because it has been an hour. He keeps telling me that we will take of soon. We end up spending there 2 hours, and then on my way back I tell him that I will never go to a Casino with him again. The guy just chuckled and said that “Buddy you will”, whatever the f~~~ that means…?!?

So now I have little choice but to start dumping these people out of my life. The way I see people are either as my Ally or a Foe, because they either contribute to my life or drag me down and waste my time.

I would like to ask you if you think I am over exaggerating and should give either of them another chance or just dump them? The thing is I am running out of these kind of “friends” and it’s sad because I tend to attract this kind of waste in my life.

Ohh and another thing I want to mention is that the Casino guy is a Blue Pill mangina. Already divorced once and pays alimony for his first kid. He tells me that marriage is a two way street, but I try to give him a taste of red pill and point out the fact that he has been already married once and that his wife was the one that dumped him. The guy has that it takes two to tangle and that there is always the “right” person for everyone. But the idiot is kind starting to shut up whenever I bring up the subject, because well his wife after their marriage is starting to have a detrimental affect on him. She started smoking, and he too started smoking. She drinks and the guy would drink too. Although he is not a complete mangina, and tries to take control of his house I can only see another divorce from a mile away.

Anyway this is my rant, and I welcome any criticism even on my part.

MGTOW AKBAR

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Easy for me to say, but cut them both loose. In case I haven’t said this lately, relationships are an exchange of energy. If two people put positive energy into a relationship, it increased in multiples. One gallon of energy from two different people mixes to make 10 (complete BS numbers on my part, but you get the point). Some relationships are one person giving energy and the other person taking it all. 1-1=0.

Get rid of the people that take your energy and spend more time with people that give off energy. You will be so much happier a year from now if you take that strategy.

And a guy that owes you $400 and blows $3k in front of your face should have his ass kicked.

Order the good wine

[ExpendableYouthParticipant 381]

If external forces are upsetting your internal forces…….I think that is your body and mind telling you what you should really do. No external forces need to f~~~ up your internal…..this sounds like that.

I do not do anybody any “favors” anymore. I simply tell them I am too busy (I’m not, but these aren’t CLOSE friends…what the f~~~ do I care?). I can count on my hand the number of people I actually count on. I don’t really need the extra drama that may come from that. I am a fan of man (LOL, always think of Al Pacino in the “Devils Advocate” saying that as I am typing it). But some brothers just need to figure their own s~~~ out on their own. Handle your own business.

And hey he should have stopped at cannabis. Anything after that selling is big time felony situations. I’d rather smoke it, personally. But hey….got to make a living (And pay for HER stuff), right? Lol..

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Russky,

My 2 cents-
Cut and run.
The first friend sounds like he is using you. He should value you as a person and not as a business opportunity.
The second friend doesn’t seem to want to pay you back.

I have loaned friends money on occasion, but I consider the money as a gift and don’t expect to be repaid. I have never been repaid after “loaning” money. I do get p~~~ed off when I’m not repaid, but I don’t say anything and just move on.

As I get older, I find I don’t have a lot in common with blue pill guys.

Good luck. You won’t have any problems finding new people.

[Russky2Participant 3100]

Thanks fellas,

Your replies confirmed to what my gut feeling is telling me. I despise blue pillers and especially lying blue pillers and drug dealers. F~~~ em all to hell. There is no Honour in these kind of people. I will avoid them like Airborne Ebola.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5142]

A lifelong buddy has a recidivist drug problem. I have tried to help him out in different ways, like getting work etc. But he always disappears on a week long bender and gets fired, it is like he has it on his qaurterly schedule or something. And when he doesn’t go on benders, his brain is so torched he can’t follow instructions with any consistency. It began to cost me relationships with other people eventually, I had to mostly cut him out of my life.

Sovereignty above all else.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I have cut a lot of people out of my life.

Dont need hassles.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[HitmanParticipant]

cut them the f~~~ off.
liabilities will ruin you.
terminate friendships with extreme prejudice .

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

The first guy is dangerous, because he may carry large amount of illegal drugs when he is hanging out with you. If the police caught him with these drugs and you are near him, you will get into trouble too.

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We end up spending there 2 hours, and then on my way back I tell him that I will never go to a Casino with him again. The guy just chuckled and said that “Buddy you will”, whatever the f~~~ that means…?!?
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He see you as someone who have trouble saying no.

Learn to say no.

I am also someone that have trouble saying no. In my first 3 jobs I had college borrowing money ranging from hundreds to thousand plus. I am stupid and have difficulty saying no.

I get a grip on myself and learn that for amount like hundreds to thousands, they can easily borrow that from their credit card. For huge amount, it is beyond my ability. I only borrow tens of dollars when someone forgot their wallet to lunch, and I always get paid back, because it is small enough that people don’t see their reputation that cheap.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 24]

Yea, both losers, you should find better friends, ditch them completely.

Pothead friends are great, but if they PUSH other drugs I would have zero to do with them.

And a friend with gambling problems who wont pay you money he owes you but will go gamble thousands away in your face? Yea, f~~~ that guy.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

In my life I’ve found that most people (women AND men) are f~~~ing stupid losers that suck the life out of you and use you for all you’re worth.

Not everyone is like that, but they’re almost as rare as an NAWALT unicorn. You’re going to expend a LOT of energy going through people trying to find a good person. EVERYONE has some sort of issue, but their issue can’t be that they like to use and abuse other people.

Most people are selfish dicks. If you can actually find a good person in this world, hang on to them. They will truly be a lifelong friend if you keep up with the relationship and put in at least as much as you get out of it.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Cut them off. I’ve had friends like that and yeah. They don’t care about you any further than what you can do for them. It’s like a sleazy male-to-male friendzone where all you are to them is a human doing, but instead of getting you to pay for a date or get them clothes, it’s booze, drugs (In this case, the stuff he’s selling), or free labor. End it mang. You’ll feel better.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Your friends weren’t actually friends. The “drug” friend was actually just using you as more of a customer than a friend, his main interest in you was nothing more than someone to help increase his illegitimate business. Your “casino friend” was using you partly as free labor and as a way to get out of his house and away from his wife so he could go gamble. People use other people all the time, for companionship, or for temporary help (as in helping him/her move to another apartment) or even as emotional support in bad times. These two guys were using you for all the wrong reasons and were definitely not your friends.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7645]

Withdraw from both. And treat that withdrawal as a social amputation. One is a drug dealer who is using you for money, and trying to get you to use more addictive drugs than pot so that he will be in a position to take as much money from you as you can possibly earn, borrow or steal. Pot customers are not high margin customers for a dealer. Methamphetamine and cocaine addicts are. And if you continue to buy pot from him, you will soon find yourself testing positive for those drugs as he will be dusting your pot with them before selling it to you in order to convert you to a higher margin customer.

The second has a gambling addiction, and probably a pussy addiction as well. He is maintaining contact with you because you are a proven source of emergency money in the form of free labor (he already collected for the work you did) if he should have a run of ‘bad luck’ and gamble away the money he needs for rent, child support or other necessities. He may also be using you for a screwed up sense of approval for his gambling addiction. In his screwed up brain, he probably suspects he has a gambling problem and is unable to control himself. But if his ‘normal’ friend goes along on his gambling trips and doesn’t object, he must be ok, right? This is the twisted logic addicts use to try to reassure themselves that they aren’t as screwed up as they really are. If you had said ‘no’ when he asked you to help him out, or go to a casino with him the first time, he would have already disappeared from your life and you wouldn’t even be asking what to do with him.

Amputate them both before the collateral damage from their bad life decisions gets splattered onto you. Sorry if this sounds harsh here. I am harsh about this, but it is intended for their behavior, not for you.

And, as someone else already mentioned, stop calling them ‘friends’. They are social parasites at best, but social predators is more likely accurate.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Russky2Participant 3100]

I also forgot to mention that the gambling guy is a control freak. He almost never asks permission if he needs something. He just says ” I need your help”, like I’m his servant or something. But whenever he needed to borrow money, he would say “Please man I need to borrow 40$ for kid’s launch”. Then the next day I come in to his place and see whiskey bottles and pot.

He used his kid as a scapegoat whenever he needed to borrow money. Ohh and btw 3 times out of 4 he never returned me borrowed money. So yeah the amount he owes me is beyond 400$ if I count everything.

F~~~ this I used to be a nice guy, but now I am turning more and more into an asshole and am stopping giving a s~~~ what people think about me. A few people at work tell me indirectly that they don’t like communism and hint that they think I’m this commie guy. This guy tells me that Putin is dangerous, yet I point out that Trudeau is much more dangerous to his liberty than Putin ever be!

MGTOW AKBAR

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

The easiest way to get rid of someone – is to lend them some money
This little write-off will amount to major savings in the long run.

Also, never lend/borrow money or sell/buy cars/houses to/from people whose friendships you value, because chances are this can lead to ruining them

Your friends are people who genuinely interested in how you are doing and who call out of the blue for no reason to catch up on things.
I cut a lot of “friends” off by stopping contacting them, because I realized I was the one who was being a friend, and they were just answering calls. Once I stopped calling – they disappeared into the void because they never really cared about me, it was my misunderstanding that we were friends, but they never though of it that way.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Russky2, these people are not friends. Friends are people who do not need anything from you. I would suggest you get a copy of Donald G. Smith’s book, The Joy of Negative Thinking. Smith explains the awesome power of the little word “NO!” He perfectly describes those kinds of problem people that infest people’s lives.

[Russky2Participant 3100]

Russky wrote:

The easiest way to get rid of someone – is to lend them some money
This little write-off will amount to major savings in the long run.

Also, never lend/borrow money or sell/buy cars/houses to/from people whose friendships you value, because chances are this can lead to ruining them

Your friends are people who genuinely interested in how you are doing and who call out of the blue for no reason to catch up on things.
I cut a lot of “friends” off by stopping contacting them, because I realized I was the one who was being a friend, and they were just answering calls. Once I stopped calling – they disappeared into the void because they never really cared about me, it was my misunderstanding that we were friends, but they never though of it that way.

Yeah man whenever I lend the Casino guy a few bucks he would disappear into a black hole. And it’s always the same excuse about having to pay bills and kid’s lunches.

F~~~, unfortunately most of my good friends that never needed anything from me are now married and enslaved. This Serbian guy I always hang out with up to a few months ago is now basically living under Total Tyranny, and is in a place worse than Gulags. He was once married to a Serbian girl that dumped him for some other “better” looking guy. That just confirms that women are AWALT.

F~~~ marriage, f~~~ fake friends and F~~~ DRUGS!!!

MGTOW AKBAR

[Russky2Participant 3100]

Badger wrote:

Russky2, these people are not friends. Friends are people who do not need anything from you. I would suggest you get a copy of Donald G. Smith’s book, The Joy of Negative Thinking. Smith explains the awesome power of the little word “NO!” He perfectly describes those kinds of problem people that infest people’s lives.

Where do I find this good read man?

MGTOW AKBAR

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

There are cheap used copies on Amazon.com Books. You can get a Amazon Gift Card at Walgreen Drugs to pay for it. Other places also might have the Amazon gift card. Amazon also takes Visa and Master.

If you do not want to purchase it, then there is a website called OCLC WorldCat of all the library resources in the world. I tried to look up this book and locations for you and I hope this address will show that.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/joy-of-negative-thinking/oclc/31914779&referer=brief_results

If it does not show up when you click on this link, just go to worldcat.org and search the author and title. Click on the book when it shows up, and the libraries that have it will be listed. If there is a library near you, you may be able to check it out. Otherwise, if there are no libraries near you with it, and if you do not want to purchase it, then print off the libraries that have it, go to your local library and ask them to borrow the book on interlibrary loan.

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