.Free Will? Not so fast, Sparky!

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    RoyDal
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    If you think human beings have free will then read this guy’s articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gad_Saad

    There are certain patterns of criminality that transcend time and place.
    There are certain patterns of mass consumption and consumer behavior that transcend time and place.

    Evolutionary psychology explains much, if not all, of these acts. These acts seem irrational to us red pill guys, but the masses keep on keeping on doing the, so there must be a reason: Genetics explains it.

    Ookaay, I honestly believe a person can rise above his or her genetic programming and assert his or her self-interest in the long term. In addition I believe that this takes such an effort of intellectual intensity, that 99% of mankind cannot achieve it. We few, we very few, actually are on this path of self determination. We few.

    Given all the above, this video is well worth watching, all two-and-a-half hours of it.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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    MadScientist
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    *nods furiously*

    Interestingly, hard core Buddhism (specifically Madyamaka Philosophy, but its in the suttas.. the words of the Buddha.. as well) actually has been saying this for thousands of years. That Free Will is an illusion of Ego.

    –MS

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    Anonymous
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    Well let’s see now.

    * Sociology
    * Psychiatrist’s
    * Philosopher’s
    *Anthropology
    * Psychologist’s
    * Political science
    * Behavioral scientist’s
    * Gender studies professor’s

    All of the above are involved in and work in soft science’s. What is soft science ? It is an interpretation observation & generalization of human condition and behavior in it’s numerous states. Unlike hard science or maths where 1+1=2 , soft science does not have a strict measurable criterion/criteria and therefore unable to give a 100% answer. This is a short, compact statement and I’m not going to write a 5000 word assay explaining what I wrote. I am sure you guys can nut it out.

    So in conclusion, I do not give a flying f~~~ what those soft science people have to say, I am & I have free will.

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    13-Jzzal
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    I do not think there is free will.

    Every input into your brain results in certain reactions.

    Thought experiment:

    You are hungry and put in front of a piece of cake and a piece of wood.
    You have 3 Options:
    1. Eat the cake.
    2. Bite into the piece of wood.
    3. Do nothing.

    You could of course do something else like punching the cake but for simplicities sake lets stick to 3 possible choices.

    You will come to a logical conclusion and take one of these actions. Whether you end up thinking:”F~~~ your experiment. I will eat the wood!” or just eat the cake if we could reset the test and your brain you would come to the same conclusion every time.

    You have a choice but if you always make the same decision are you really free?
    Is free will the ability to come to your own conclusion even if this conclusion would always be the same as long as the state of your brain and the external input is the same?

    Of course we can’t actually perform this experiment. So this is speculation. However unless you think that the mind is seperate from the physical state of the brain my conclusion is logical.

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