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My ex sent me an email saying how sorry she was for taking my child away from me, and could I forgive her but if not she understands.
During a divorce you have to be careful what you say or post on social media – especially under a court order with threat of imprisonment( You and your family / friends).I never even answered the e-mail, If I got my hands round my ex’s neck I don’t think I could take them off.
Went out recently for a family meal for my mums birthday, talking abut how much money I send to my ex till my daughter is 16 or 21 if she goes to university ( Be £50K / £60K ). My brother who has 3 adult kids now and his new partner who is 15 years younger and has two younger kids. Both turn around to me and say it’s not a lot of money at all, both gone through a divorce as well. Hope they never get their kids ripped away from them.
Yes – it’s a lot for a kid I don’t get to see, and probably never will. What is she going to be like anyway being brought up by a single mother.
This is the only site I can come to who understand what s~~~ we have been put through by “pumpkin”.
Keep Red pilling my brother, not too get married again or move in with his new partner. They both have kids of their own and each have their own house – keep it like that ( Because he’s my brother )
I never even answered the e-mail,
I think that’s a good decision. Let a lawyer speak on your behalf or a trusted family member. You don’t have to say a word to her until all the financial (and other) obligations are complete. I hope you get through this.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Keep her out of range. If she wants to talk, let her talk to a lawyer. She doesn’t want forgiveness, she wants you to yell at her and tell her she’s a bad person for taking your child away.
1: She already knows that and she’ll try to use anything you say in the divorce and
2: She still wants the drama and attention. Give her NOTHING.Finish up your divorce and never talk to her again. absolute ghost.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
Every time my ex sent emails like that (during and after divorce), if I responded, it was followed by another asking for something.
She didn’t want forgiveness, she wanted more money or some favor or something from the house she forgot to take when she ran off to live with her new boyfriend.
So yeah, don’t respond. Ghost that b!tch. Women hate being ghosted because they can’t manipulate you, but it’s what they deserve for ripping family apart.
Lastly, that is a LOT of money to pay. Especially painful when you don’t get to see your kid and know that very little of the cash will actually be spent on the child.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."My ex sent me an email saying how sorry she was for taking my child away from me, and could I forgive her but if not she understands.
Whenever, ANYONE from the past calls to tell you something like they’re sorry it’s only to make themselves feel better about being such a scumbag in the past.
It has NOTHING to do with you, but ALL about Them easing THEIR conscience. This way if you don’t get back to them they can say to themselves that they did all that they could do and shift the blame in their head yet again to you.
Let THEM PLAY THEIR GAMES…No Fu(ks Given for THEM or THEIR WORLD of Sh)t
My brother who has 3 adult kids now and his new partner who is 15 years younger and has two younger kids. Both turn around to me and say it’s not a lot of money at all, both gone through a divorce as well.
Blue Pillers will NEVER Understand. They shall continue to make the same mistakes and continue to live the same LIES til they draw their last breaths.
YOU are Wasting YOUR Time, Energy, Effort, and Sanity by even trying to get them to Understand the TRUTH.
If they accept the Truth; they have to reject not only one another, but their complete Fantasy that THEY LIVE IN. MOST just can’t handle all that.
I would just wish them the best of luck in their “new” relationship and walk away grinning and laughing to myself.
Hopefully, your brother doesn’t get married and repeat the cycle all over yet again, but don’t be surprised if he does as MANY NEVER LEARN.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
Yeah forgiving a woman usually leads to giving a woman something. Funny but being forgiven by a woman usually leads to giving her something too. The traffic is pretty much one way regardless. If you want to stop that traffic you need to break off the relationship.
If you do ever forgive her, I would keep it to yourself. It will keep you safer from her taking more.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
THIS is the BAIT. DO NOT FALL FOR IT. Also, make sure that you I.R.L. never get connected on here. You being in the U.K. its a very good idea to use tools like this to get here.
It’s a good step by step primer. I have not checked but I think we still have a .onion address still working. In fact, I would be even more amiss to what has been going on as of late in the U.K. to be very weary of having any connections to you and your online persona.
I also want you to NOT talk about your situation to your Friends and family. That can also be used against you. Remember, they will always take HER side. It’s nature.
I know this sucks man. I do and so do many others. But its the deal that we did not fully understand before we got the contract that was toilet paper.
In fact, my ex pretended to be my son often online to find out what was going on. In fact, the C~~~ STOCKS ME! The fact that she has no more control over my finances or even my job prospects are really starting to bug her since I am doing so much better then she is comparably so.
Hell, they are trying to crack of they can take control of the crypto network and the people who own it. Even going as so far to try to track who is who in the world of crypto, and seeing if there is any way that they can get the lazy boys who keep their data or passwords anywhere that they can harvest. So don’t be lazy, and put them in a place that they can not just simply look at a browser and get data from that. Think of it simply that you want to protect that data and be able to use it like a lifeline when things go to hell as a survivor plan.
I am so paranoid, I keep my data offshore of the USA. That’s not a joke. You have to take every step you can to protect yourself from the state.
Anyways, the best thing that you can do is of course, nothing. You are not allowed to do anything. Your exwife is going to do whatever she can to poison the well. Remember, to her this is a game that only has rewards. No one is going to punish her for her actions. Its simply the way they have the system set up. And they don’t plan on changing it anytime soon. They need more suckers to sign up for this s~~~ deal everyday.
I would also be weary of any contact that you do have with your old friends. Remember, just like Sky-0 pointed out, these people love to talk and share info since it is their nature. Loose lips sink ships as they say. This is not just an old WWII saying anymore.
The next avenue of attack it through other forms of women being in your life. BE AWARE that if you meet someone that just happens to come by, be very suspicious. All of this was something that went on with me. Even some Idiot asking to see if your car is for sale.
So be careful. Do what you can to protect yourself. This is a real war. Not some traffic ticket. This can and will ruin you if you do not always take steps to protect yourself. Think of it like theft in the U.K. And then you understand the game.
Do the best you can to keep your spirits up. About the only thing I can say that will make you feel better is that in the end? The secret is out it’s no longer the MEN who are the deadbeat dads. It’s the WOMEN who are this all along. They wanted the full position, they get to enjoy all that comes with it. Remember, when they ask you for things, make sure to have them ask their mother and have her send a letter to you or give WRITTEN PERMISSION for something as small as gift. And always use a third party like Amazon before sending any gifts her way. Its better to have the address tied to another person as well. No one is going to sue Amazon or dare to bring up the sad fact that women wish they could punish them for simply sending birthday gifts or Christmas gifts etc. But as usual, check your local laws. Don’t worry, all of them say you already can’t and can and will get you in trouble if they can.
When you kids does grow up, this idea that it was the mans fault is not going to be very popular among women. In fact, its already being a problem as if their is a SINGLE women complains about this, they are all lumped together. And that is why women have to keep going to the government for ever more Laws and protections from their actions. To bad they can’t change the truth that men get in the end. They tried for years, but it’s no longer in their control. The word is out and its not going to die anytime soon. So the possibility of trying to shame you for not being around is not going to hold water. In fact by doing so, she simply makes sure that she herself has no future of securing a nest egg either from any high tier man.
That will probably lead you to a good relationship with her later on in her life. In fact the best thing to do is simply walk away. When they are ready, they will be there.
One of my older sons only contacts me when he needs money. Last time was while I was in jail. And this is simply something you are going to have to get use to. Don’t let it get you down. Just simply make sure you make it clear that you are not some chump. She will respect you for it. She may hate it. But be there when she needs YOU. Just don’t expect anything. The idea that young women love their kids is sort of lost on this generation of kids.
And not to mention, you got the entire hive of civilization that is going to try to make her think that it is your fault at least behind the scene. Don’t let it bother you. Girls are not dumb. They know when it is said just to make them feel better. And in the end the truth is still the truth. A lie only works when people see it work.
Better trails lay ahead. It takes a LONG time to get use to the absence of your children not being there. I will be honest, the pain never goes away. But your mind learns to cope one way or another. But it takes years.
ALSO, when you hear about something going bad, stay out of it. It’s a trap. Not everyone is going to be DDJ. And in truth, he just lucked out if you could call it that. This is when women are at their worst and will do anything to push the blame on someone else. When you are not around, all they can do is mitigate the circumstance. If they can lure you in and try to pin it on you they will.
The girl I raised sent me a letter. Thing was that is was a complete trap. That’s all I am saying. What are the odds that it being so close to the date of my Restraining order extension hearing? Yea. Don’t fall for the traps man.
Your mind will get the better part of you or your heart. Sadly, just a simple email can be used against you. Don’t do it.
We got full lives ahead of us. They don’t like the ugly truth that we are in fact better without them all. Once you understand that it was never yours, and it was all a game? All by design? You get wise, and you move on.
This is not just me saying this to make you feel better, or even try to change what is real or reality. I thought about that too when I got the advice here so many times. I tend to overthink things and sometimes I am my worst enemy. But it really is truth that what we want to be real can be real if you want it too. And our hearts like it or not want for it to be so badly true.
But it is. You have to be ready to accept that they only see you as a guy on wall-street happens to see market trends and follows it to grow their investments that benefit them. Sure, any relationship is a take and give. But women are not that way even with their own parents. It’s simply be nice and invest in a reward or not to women.
Sure, their is an exception to the rule. And when it happens, its wonderful. But as all things, keep your hopes up for a better future. It’s going to come. And nothing can stop it.
Enjoy the days man. Its the one gift they wish they could take. And they try, but knowing that you just simply know the truth? That takes away all their joy of thinking they still have any control over you. That is the ultimate F~~~ YOU that the state, Society, and Women can not stand.
A HAPPY MAN going his own way knowing the rules of the game and never giving up is a man that simply is beyond any method of control they can enforce or manipulate. It drives them crazy they no longer can use your own emotions or mind against you.
They like to frame the game as a win or a loss. That’s the biggest farce of it all. You already won. You won before any of this happened. What they don’t want to tell you is that if you think their was any option that you had to win, you lost already. There is no winning move that the other party can play against you. If more men knew that, they would understand how stupid it is to bother spending money on things like visitation, custody, marriage etc. None of it was for you. It was all for someone else. Even the very sex drive that you have is not really there to help you. Its simply just another thing that you can groom just like your hair.
The fact that you know all this now, and understand that all the pain and suffering was simply to make you feel that you had the illusion of being in control of something beyond your control is the key. You don’t have a choice if you want to feel this way or not. You are made to feel this way simply to ensure that you play along with the reproductive game.
The memories sure are real. Take them and enjoy them. But any illusion that you had a real direction or say in this is the illusion itself. Biologically speaking, your children are indeed share your genetic information. But simply being of one stock or another is nothing. The only true thing of value is who you become as a person on this earth.
If foster kids can be yours, then so can the children of the world. Like it or not, you do happen to have one more gift they forgot to tell you about. We are all interlinked.
The real problems hit your mind when you think about the lost investment. This too is a misnomer. What you put in is never going to go away. That effort and work is there and done. And if you think about, women, the state, and others spend damn near every dollar of your money, your output simply trying to ensure that every good thing you put in there never grows any larger. Think about it. Just about everything that man has done used to erase his very essence in other people. That essence can never be erased. Only the force of an entire nation or planet is used to suppress all that is the good you invested in.
24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.
Once you grasp the amount of effort and swindling they do just to try to squash everything you have invested, you understand who really lost their shirt here. If you think about it on those terms, you start to understand why the game is rigged. Why they need you to feel like you lost. If you did understand what efforts these people go through to simply feel better about themselves? You simply can’t help but laugh at the absurdity. Why? Its not going to change a thing. All the programming and forced manipulation in the world is not going to change the fact that these people spend their entire lives simply trying to impress others with the false notion that they were able to change anything. In fact, all they have done is make even more evident that your investment simply can never be taken. Only hidden by what amounts to the greatest scam in the history of the world.
At the end of the day, knowing that they spend all this effort trying to duplicate what you do naturally and never being able to succeed in doing so? No matter how much effort they put into it?
You got to crack a smile and laugh.
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Nothing wrong with forgiving her. Just don’t communicate that, or anything else, to her.
She is “reaching out” for the purpose of getting a response, possibly something in writing, like a text or e-mail.
You have no idea what she might do with any communication she might get from you.
Does she have a “no contact” order or anything like that? TRAP!Don’t fall for it.
You can’t go wrong with no contact at all.
Ghosting is the safest way to deal with any woman.
Good luck and don’t get into a relations~~~ againIf there’s one thing I know about women, she’s executing a power-move when she comes across the most sweet and innocent. In other words: she’s up to something. Don’t take the bait. The kindness and openness in the email are a mask as thin as the makeup smeared on her face.
I never even answered the e-mail, If I got my hands round my ex’s neck I don’t think I could take them off.
Please don’t ever state this again. Bury it, speak to a priest, someone with client privilege, but never state it. It does nothing to heal the pain, and only exposes you to more.
Yes – it’s a lot for
a kidtwo kids I don’t get to see, and probably never will. Whatis sheare they going to be like anyway being brought up by asinglelying lesbian mother.Trust me, many of us here know your pain. You are not alone.
My ex sent me an email saying how sorry she was for taking my child away from me, and could I forgive her but if not she understands.During a divorce you have to be careful what you say or post on social media – especially under a court order with threat of imprisonment( You and your family / friends).
I never even answered the e-mail, If I got my hands round my ex’s neck I don’t think I could take them off.
Went out recently for a family meal for my mums birthday, talking abut how much money I send to my ex till my daughter is 16 or 21 if she goes to university ( Be £50K / £60K ). My brother who has 3 adult kids now and his new partner who is 15 years younger and has two younger kids. Both turn around to me and say it’s not a lot of money at all, both gone through a divorce as well. Hope they never get their kids ripped away from them.
Yes – it’s a lot for a kid I don’t get to see, and probably never will. What is she going to be like anyway being brought up by a single mother.
This is the only site I can come to who understand what s~~~ we have been put through by “pumpkin”.
Keep Red pilling my brother, not too get married again or move in with his new partner. They both have kids of their own and each have their own house – keep it like that ( Because he’s my brother )Don’t ever respond to emails like this. Never. many, many reasons not to do so.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
After you’ve had your kids ripped away from you, she wants forgiveness.
If you respond in the affirmative, you absolve her guilt and lessen any potential chance you have with your lawyer to press charges. If you respond in the negative, you look like an ass, but more importantly, you’ve just put in writing your bad attitude, to reinforce her court claim of ‘victim status”.
You lose either way.The correct response is no response.( because anything you say can and will be used against you in court.)
L. Euler
After you’ve had your kids ripped away from you, she wants forgiveness.
If you respond in the affirmative, you absolve her guilt and lessen any potential chance you have with your lawyer to press charges. If you respond in the negative, you look like an ass, but more importantly, you’ve just put in writing your bad attitude, to reinforce her court claim of ‘victim status”.You lose either way.
The correct response is no response.( because anything you say can and will be used against you in court.)
L. EulerI was thinking the exact opposite in that I was thinking of it from her perspective. She wins No matter what. If you forgive her, then she feels absolved of her sins. If you don’t then she’ll feel validated and like a victim. If you don’t respond, again she’ll feel validated and like a victim.
From a court’s point of view, if you forgive her, then she’ll use that against you. If you respond negatively, she’ll use that against you. If you ignore her, she’ll use that against you.
She wins no matter what you do. So do what’s best for you. Ghost. No contact. One chance, per person, per lifetime. NO exceptions.
Order the good wine
One chance, per person, per lifetime. NO exceptions.
Haven’t heard that in awhile. Thanks for the reminder, man.
My ex sent me an email saying how sorry she was for taking my child away from me, and could I forgive her but if not she understands […] I never even answered the e-mail …
She is sussing it out to see if a reverse monkey branch is possible.
My brother who has 3 adult kids now and his new partner who is 15 years younger and has two younger kids. Both turn around to me and say it’s not a lot of money at all, both gone through a divorce as well.
A classic Beta.
Has she tried to set YOU up with one of her friends yet?
One chance, per person, per lifetime. NO exceptions.
Too risky.
Vagina? No chance, ever.Fair enough Monk. And by the way, what a great thread. It’s interesting to see a s~~~ test taken apart by the red pill.
Order the good wine
One chance, per person, per lifetime. NO exceptions.
Haven’t heard that in awhile. Thanks for the reminder, man.
If it’s a cliche, I like it. It validates some sht I’ve got going on.
Thanks for all the advice, and the warnings of the pitfalls which could still follow. I agree with TaxGuy ( one chance ), she called the police on me once. Not going to give her the chance or opportunity to get me in trouble with the authorities again.
she called the police on me once.
Aww s~~~.
She sent armed men on you to put you into a cage once already?That’s not just a red flag.
That’s an open attempt to destroy you.
Take heed from that first attempt and know, for a fact, that she harbors only bad intentions for you.Never communicate with this harpy again.
Change your number and dump your email, etc.
Better to start over in another state or country than to give her the opportunity to try that again.
I’m not joking.Cut your losses.
Cut all ties with her. Mutual friends? F~~~ that.
They are working for her, no matter what they tell you.
Be paranoid.
I can’t stress enough how much danger a woman like her can be to someone who doesn’t want her anymore.And I’m sorry to say, you are very likely in danger of harm from your daughter, now or in the future.
Your ex will probably have made her into an enemy of yours.
I’ve seen and experienced it myself.
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