For the MGTOW's who married and regretted

[VectorParticipant 178]

This thread is for the MGTOW’s who married and had kids (or not) and regretted it. What are your words of advice to single never married men without kids?

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

In the words of the immortal Sam Kinison

“Don’t do it “

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Just be EXACTLY like ALL WOMEN, be selfish and put No.1 FIRST, SECOND AND LAST…..it is all about EQUALITY after all isn’t it!!?

Your future Mrs. Chump will NEVER put you first, do you hear men….NEVER!!!!

Think you found the UNICORN, she’s NAWALT…..yeah right, you prove me wrong and come back to me in 20 years to tell me I was wrong.

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t regret my kids, not for a minute. Although I made plenty of mistakes in getting married, and being married, it’s still hard to regret because I’m not sure I would have learned without those mistakes.

I do feel blessed that I came out ok, but know many other men were not so fortunate.

I don’t know what I would do if I could do it all again. Perhaps I would look into adopting or maybe some sort of agreement with a higher quality woman to have a kid. I don’t know.

I would only recommend other men to use your head at all times. Understand what risk mean and accept that. Go for what you want out of life, but don’t pretend the risks aren’t real.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 0]

Please don’t get married.

Your desire for independence, freedom, peace, and tranquility increases with age. This greatly outweighs and nullifies any desire for companionship. Also, stupid s~~~ tends to annoy you more as you age.

PLEASE DO NOT GET MARRIED.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I’ve posted quite a few replies on this topic. My posotion is still the same, but my advice keeps changing somewhat.
Here goes:
I married relatively young and very Blue Pill. The marriage started failing so she got pregnant to lock me in. I have two kids. I love my kids, and most others here will tell you that they love their kids also. So, if you are even a half decent man, even if you don’t want kids, if you have them, you will love them. And you will become a slave tho them or to their mother in one way or another because of that love.
But, before you have them, youdon’t know that, so my advice is DON’T HAVE KIDS.
Now, if you really, really want kids… first thing is wait untill you’ve achieved your dreams, lived your life and enjoyed your youth. You can easily wait until you’re in your 50s.
Then, get the youngest, hottest, most moral and decent women you can find. Have kids with her, but never marry. Put all the assets in your will under their name ONLY. Enjoy your kids in your old age.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

It’s REAL SIMPLE.

If YOU DESIRE to LIVE YOUR LIFE, DON’T GET MARRIED !!

If YOU DESIRE to LIVE YOUR LIFE, DON’T HAVE KIDS !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Yeah I don’t regret my kids. My two sons are great and gave me reason to keep going through the worst of it. My advice to younger men is understand all the core concepts of MGTOW are accurate. The great tragedy is that while men are capable of unconditional love; women simply are not. If you really want kids look into the surrogate mother route. And limit interaction with females in any other capacity. No need to be overtly rude. Just be brief, to the point and keep a safe distance especially with female co-workers.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Hey Vector, what ever happened with the live in girlfriend that went to China?

Order the good wine

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

I love my kids a lot. I am one of the extremely rare cases where I, as the father, got full custody of my two children simply because the mother wasn’t interested in them any more.

I have two daughters. I have spent a lot of time thinking about how to raise them. Best case scenario, I will be able to instill in them virtues and values that run counter to the current feminist and SJW dogma that has infected society.

I am happy that I can raise them according to how I see fit. I am the rare father that can do that. However, I have also wondered whether I would have chosen to have children or get married if I had a crystal ball when I was younger. While I would never wish away my children, I wish that I had children under much different circumstances.

My advice to men without children is to be extremely cautious. Do you want children above anything else? Is having children more important than being divorced? Calculate if having children is worth paying child support and alimony. Assume the worst. Assume you won’t see them as often as you want. Assume the ex-wife will put you through the grinder. Assume your kids will be used as weapons against you. I got custody of my kids and I still had to put up with a lot of s~~~ from my ex. If all of that is still less important than having children in the first place, then sure, have some kids.

I thank God that I am one of the lucky ones. I don’t know what the statistics are but I’m sure I have to be one of maybe 1% of fathers who got full custody of their kids when the mother is still fully capable and not a drug addict or anything.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[Anonymous 43]

ooo pick me me me I was married and divorced with 2 kids pick me

I was about to break up with my then gf when I got the call, honey im pregnant, I forgot to take my pill…didn’t tell me about the pinholes in the condoms.

oops!

that put me on a road of almost daily misery. nothing was good enough, nothing I did was right, and sometimes she hit me in the middle of the night, sitting on my chest slapping the s~~~ out of me. constantly accused me of f~~~ing every woman in the western hemisphere. I was accused of making a baby with her sister…dna said no f~~~ing way!

I wanted to go back to college, waiting for our daughter to be old enough to go to all day school. nope, she wanted another child, 4 years after the first one. so college put off another 5 years.

don’t get me wrong, I loved my kids, I took care of them, taught them what they needed to know to be successful. I came to regret how I was trapped. I also came to realize that I was there at her whim. if she ever figured that out, I was toast. after year 9, she graduated online college with a masters in management, then started treating me like an employee. anything I wanted was crushed, I had to go along with what she wanted or else.

then it happened, she told me that whatever I do, she can hire someone to do. I am replaceable. I helped pay her college debts, she needed my good credit rating to get apartments, credit cards, car loans, mortgage, I took care of the children for 9 years, all the house chores, landscaping, house renovation did her masters work, helped her cheat on software certification tests did countless hours of bulls~~~ for her bulls~~~ family. now I an replaceable? oh, then there was the screaming, threats, violence, the stabbing, beating, kicking, backstabbing and lying, driving me almost to self immolation, hiding money, Chad Thunderc~~~ from high school moving in 3 days after the cops removed me from my home, almost shooting my brother

well, if you are lurking, thinking about getting married, do not. stay the f~~~ away from women.

cops took me out of my house, almost shot my brother, for many months I lived in a minivan parked at a truckstop near the community college I was attending near Chicago, from August 09 until June 10.

fast forward a bit…tracking devices, car chases, kicking my door in, listening devices in kids toys, 3 private investigators, 4 x almost running me over at the hand off, jail for not finding a job fast enough by 2 days, $300,000 in legal bills, moving 900 miles away, poisoned kids telling me to f~~~ off, retroactive child support, homeless again, living in a tent in SWKS from April 16 to August 16 looking for a job.

barred from contacting my kids by court order.

I am paying $450 a month to a woman who earns $150,000 a year. I am a school teacher squeezing out $39,000 a year.

my name is may 7 2020, the day my youngest daughter turns 18, and I am free of the nightmare that began when I met this c~~~, back in May 1996. how long ago was that…she had just come back from Mexico and learned this dance, just before it went huge in the US

https://youtu.be/anzzNp8HlVQ

omg she was so seductive wiggling to this s~~~, I couldn’t help myself.

when I was thrown away, this was the hot song, played constantly

I can’t tell you how many nights I wake up screaming thinking the c~~~, the cops, her chad or some dumb f~~~ has crashed through my door and is dragging me back to court, coming to kill me, sometimes I wake up with a weapon of some kind in my hand. living in my tent, a couple times I would wake up screaming, roll around in the tent thinking I was trapped, and tangle the thing in a ball, other campers would have to untangle me from the outside and a couple times I came out swinging.

if you think your special snowflake would never do that to you, you will find out the hard way. we had s~~~ loads of money, I was faithful, no gambling, no drugs, no alcohol, I was not violent, I was on the honor roll at college, I volunteered at my kids school, I built sets for the kids dance studio.

If you think you have a better shot at staying married, good luck. personally, I think any man getting married today is f~~~ed in the head and deserves the ass raping he will get. the word is out there. marriage is not good. fail to heed the warnings, you are on your own.

I got lucky in many aspects, I had no assets, no income, nothing except the house to lose. fine, she can have the payments, the taxes, the upkeep and the kids and all their bulls~~~. I got half of a 401K. she took on a live in Chad, bought another house with him, and I think he is paying for my daughter’s college at $80,000 a year.

that c~~~ burned her retirement savings trying to bury me. lol. I have massive debts that keep her from sucking money out of me. over time I can rebuild wealth, she p~~~ed hers away and must work until she drops dead at her desk.

Do you think you can make sacrifices to save your damaged ass and recover to rise up stronger 10 years later? look around you. look at all your things. I have 3 laundry baskets of things, a car and a bicycle. can you live so close to the bone that mosquitoes give you blood? can you live with juggling $300,000 of debt to make payments? I have walked through car wash lots, drive thrus and failmart parking lots picking up about $2 in dropped change every night. $700 free dollars…woot.

when your marriage fails, how far are you willing to go to survive?

I will pay a c~~~ $450 a month for the next 36 months. you can buy a really nice used Porsche Boxster, Miata or a couple year old Mustang for that money.

as bad as my deal is, I got out cheap and lucky. I am happy for the deal Judge F~~~wit dropped on me.there are men here who pay lifetime alimony, child support college, cars, medical, dental, activities. they had real jobs when they got married. the court looked at that, and ass raped these men something wicked. those men, God bless them, will tell you a vastly different, and more horrible story.

to have the deal I have, I have to live far below my potential. I have to earn just enough to make payments, just enough not to go hungry, and just enough so judge f~~~wit doesn’t club me again. I hate living like this. I know I am better than this, but I refuse to reward the c~~~ with the sweat of my brow. this is the red pill that I take every morning that would kill most other men, I refuse to participate anymore than is necessary to sustain me. It is like driving on a highway with a police car right behind you, and you are late for work.

there are men who commit suicide after divorce has been declared. lately it has been doctors, surgeons who save lives with their years of education and training decided that giving half of everything to an undeserving c~~~ was too much to bear. I see where they are coming from, c~~~ isn’t in the OR doing brain surgery, why should she get his money? I can not see or contact my kids, why should I pay for them? I pay $450 a month to keep the cops from picking me up.

I can’t stop you from wifing up that precious snowflake. understand that all she has to do is make one or two short tearful anxious sounding phone calls and your ass is grass and she’s gonna mow it.

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

What ever you earn, she will spend (on herself) and then bitch at you for not earning more.
Her money is her money, your money is “our” money (that she controls).
She takes control of the rudder of your ship; you are no longer the “Captain of your fate or Master of your soul”.
Your dreams become nightmares.
You never remember she loves red roses.
It’s all about her.
You will never be good enough;

anything

you do is wrong.
You are expendable. When you die she’ll morn by going on a cruise.
God put her on earth to be happy; God put you on earth to see that she’s happy.
You just don’t listen.
You never remember she hates red roses.
You’re an idiot.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

Don’t do itZ flat out. Your life will be a life of frustration and compromise and for what? It f~~~ing sucks. They trap you and you hate life.

I’m so wrapped up it’s hard to unravel it all and break free. So much of my time is taken up dealing with step kid and wife bulls~~~ and all my money goes. Hence I can’t save any to take off. I haven’t had more than a blowjob or 2 a year although I can have sex whenever I want it. I however desire it mostly from younger women…so…take my advice. WOMEN are a fun diversion and can be fun in short intense doses. Be careful, wrap it ALWAYS or better yet, get a vasectomy! Have fun, save money, travel and LIVE!!! NEVER MARRY or live with a woman.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

She’s going to f~~~ someone else at some point if she’s a hoe.

[joetechParticipant]

What I regret the most is moving in with my ex girlfriend. All the damage that was done to me by her eclipses anything the wives ever did.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

I was married for nine years. Nothing EVER improves in any type of relationship. Therefore; Do not marry, co-habitate or date women.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Vector:

I hope you’re getting everything you need for your term paper, or MGTOW bashing article, or whatever it is. Just remember that there is REAL pain behind those stories. Men who left with nothing, that considered suicide, men who have seen the absolute worst a woman has to offer. Not that every woman is like that, but a s~~~ load of them are. Have a little compassion for them. It’s not about hating WOMEN, it’s about getting screwed over by a WOMAN.

So, whatever happened to that girlfriend that went to China two years ago? The one that really did nothing wrong except want to get married?

Order the good wine

[VectorParticipant 178]

Really did nothing wrong huh? Don’t even get me started on all the wrong doings she had done and all the red flags that I’ve seen. She was a flat out proud feminist! Bossy, NOT passive. Wanting to run the show, call the shots, make all the decisions, rule me! You think it’s ok to marry a feminist in this day and age tax guy? You think it’s ok to marry a woman who wants to control you and your life decisions and belittle you to a slave provider, and do everything SHE says?

We broke up. I’m living alone and so is she. You sound like a troll… hmmm

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Marrage has changed, do not do it. Prenup you say?, not worth the risk. Am I a better person for having a child? who knows. I dont regret having my daughter at all, the saying goes you dont miss what you never had, so who knows the man I would be had we never had her but everything else happened the way it did in our marriage. Who knows how much I love her but me..

Get a vasectomy.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Vector wrote:

Really did nothing wrong huh? Don’t even get me started on all the wrong doings she had done and all the red flags that I’ve seen. She was a flat out proud feminist! Bossy, NOT passive. Wanting to run the show, call the shots, make all the decisions, rule me! You think it’s ok to marry a feminist in this day and age tax guy? You think it’s ok to marry a woman who wants to control you and your life decisions and belittle you to a slave provider, and do everything SHE says?

We broke up. I’m living alone and so is she. You sound like a troll… hmmm

Hey, lighten up a little. You come on two years ago with a story about the girl that went to China. Then you basically disappear on the boards for a long, long time. Then you come back with two confessional-style posts about wanting everyone to tell what regrets they have without offering up any of your own. If you look at that from someone else’s perspective, who really looks like a troll? And with the number of women that come on this site and try to stir up s~~~, or get guys to write about how much they hate women, who looks like the troll?

Vector wrote:

You think it’s ok to marry a feminist in this day and age tax guy? You think it’s ok to marry a woman who wants to control you and your life decisions and belittle you to a slave provider, and do everything SHE says?

Me, no not really. But it’s not the woman you are marrying. That can be bad enough. It’s the little section of the law covering family law that you are voluntarily signing up for. It’s one thing to be in a 50/50 relationship, but that contract doesn’t make it 50/50. It is then totally in her favor. All she has to do is make one phone call.

Oh, and the hmmm at the end of your post. Not manly. Don’t do that. About 99% of the posts that end that way turn out to be a chick.

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