Food fot thought

[IvaldirParticipant 10]

Most of you have already realised that what women want often differs from what they say they want.

I always hear feminists yell that women want to be independent, make their own decisions, etc and that this will lead to some female utopia or something like that. Lets take that statement and inject some logic and reality (warning women have had allergic reactions to these substances so if for any strange reason a women got on this page, leave).

So joke aside, women have received a lot of new rights and freedoms (some fair some to screw over men) and what is the result?
Research from 2009 shows that after 35 years of “improvement” in equality, overall happiness has dropped for women. Their absolute happiness and happiness relative to that of males has dropped. It seems that our female counterparts aren’t all that happy in this artificial society created by them for them.
They got all the important things they claimed they wanted yet they are less happy.

Another fun thing is that women claim want is independence from men, they say this will make them happy.
Bearing that in mind how come that one of the most popular novels of the last years is based on female submission (50 shades of grey)?
They lead us to believe they want independence yet their mind lingers towards submission?
And while I’m refuting the idea that women really want independence, lets get some psychological experiments involved.
During my psychology course I came across an experiment that probably raises a lot of femenist neck hairs.
The experiment performed by Megargee was to see how ingrained gender roles are. He placed dominant people with more submissive people and noted who lead the pair during excercises. When a dominant male was placed with a submissive female, males had the lead in 90% of the cases.
And when a dominant women was placed with a submissive male? Wel only 20% of the dominant women took the lead, and even stranger 91% of those dominant women that didn’t lead GAVE their submissive male counterpart the lead.

What I’m trying to say (with a rather long detour trough the dominance topic) Women don’t want what they say they want, which is why things are getting messed up.

A lot of you probably already knew this but I just wanted to post my thoughts about it, supported by some facts and see what you think.

Sources:
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=buy.optionToBuy&id=1986-17212-001

[experiencedParticipant]

When you duct tape them to the bed, use neutragena body oil on the wrists and ankles, that way they know they are special as opposed to a tart if you’d used baby oil.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Bs579800Participant 1]

Just wanted to inform you’re understanding of he submissive role. it’s very bizarre to understand, but in the bdsm world, the one in submission is the one in control. The word submissive is a misnomer, I suppose. It’s a role that a person plays for however they would like to play it. The submissive decides what is permissible by creating boundaries. There’s is a code word decided upon that will stop the role play instantly. Research indicates that people who choose the submissive role are actually looking to safely relent from having to control, while still remaining in control in a less involved fashion.

Not sure if that helps or hurts your argument…

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