Follow the money.

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

At some point in the future, the governments of our countries are going to learn that they can no longer use women to extort money out of men.
What will happen?
Here is my take on this.

Productivity is man based. Government knows this. When there is no more low hanging fruit to be stripped of funds they will have no choice but to supplicate to the creators of wealth. Men.
The only reason the circumstance is as it is, is due to the reserve of unwitting men who, in their ignorance, allow themselves to be victimised.
The government will exhaust these foolish men and be left with nothing.

The government will then invalidate womens political power and award it to the men.

Opinions, criticisms?

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[ghostParticipant]

Philandry wrote:

The government will then invalidate womens political power and award it to the men.

I’m waiting, Philandry. I am not optimistic, but I will be ready to assume a leadership role in society if I am allowed.

[Anonymous 42]

Collapse is only a question of when.

The recipient class will suffer the most>>>

Collapse has already begun as more and more men refuse to participate.

Steal from one (), and give to another (), has and always will fail!

It’s called stealing, and that’s what modern women are custom to!

Customs are changing!

MGTOW: The right change at the right time!

[CthulhuParticipant 698]

I think there be a lot of doubling down on the current narrative. For many MGTOW, perhaps all, it won’t matter. Women won’t change and the societies that perhaps never allowed women to participate will be able to overflow and take over those societies that allow women great freedoms. Islam is a great example. It’s coming and in a few more generations, they’ll still be reproducing and slapping their women down. We, on the other hand, will have stopped reproducing and letting the women get run the hell over by jihadi Joe. Society will eventually reset and balance. Libraries will get burnt and the next society will have to learn the hard way like we did.

Why vote for a lesser evil? #ICETHEMOUT

[Branched offParticipant 10975]

Oh that would be a sweet hope.

I think it will take more than that though, more like a total economic failure of the political system, leading to it being superseded as opposed to just repairing itself.

The problem is they have equal votes to us. They are in parliaments too. The current model ismake the men do the hard jobs that have very little status, give the clever women high status jobs that they do not quite deserve but which give them power beyond their ability. I can’t see women giving up the power they were given.

I see two possibilities -economic collapse leads to a fragmentation of interest groups -“small kingdoms” develop like after the fall of Rome. Men naturally lead these. Or we get a situation like after the fall of the Roman republic where someone “restores democracy” by actually taking all the real power into his hands and leaving the democracy with the routine admin crap that he can meddle with if he wants but would rather leave.

Anyhow it must happen somehow. Nature always eventually destroys those who stand against her.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

What I really would like to know is: do you men think the situation is saveable or will government stupidly ride the dead horse downhill to oblivion?

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[ghostParticipant]

Philandry wrote:

What I really would like to know is: do you men think the situation is saveable or will government stupidly ride the dead horse downhill to oblivion?

The latter.

I am a student of history and human psychology. My knowledge and intuition tells me that much. I could be wrong though. I hope I am.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

The only reason men work as hard and produce as much as they do is because there is a reward. They get to enjoy the fruits of their labors in the form of wealth and status. Previously it would afford them a quality wife as well, but those days are long gone, and with it one of the strongest motives of male production that ever existed.

If you remove those incentives, men will work less and produce less. This is already happening. A few generations ago male labor participation was well over 90%. Last i checked it was roughly 50% of men, and has been on a steady decline for the last 50 years or so and continues to decline.

This trend is almost certain to continue. It will contribute significantly to the inevitable economic depression. Only when there is an incentive to work will men begin to produce wealth and enrich society with their contributions, but that is impossible in our current gynocentric society. It will take a complete collapse of western civilization in order for men to be allowed to drive the progress of humanity once again.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Nope. They never get the right answer.

They will just crack down harder on the men. Women will keep getting more power while playing the victim/vagina cards and it will keep getting worse for both sides.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[2icebittenParticipant 147]

The “low hanging fruit” has already mostly been stripped. Goverment’s soloution, especially in Kalifornia, is to just import more citizens, by legal or illegal means to replace them.

My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style. - Maya Angelou

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

They can rip off all the right from women and give it to men, AND I WOLDNT TAKD IT.

I ain’t voting ever, I don’t give a f~~~ about anything.

Parental rights? F~~~ that s~~~.

Even if they reduce women to property, like a slave/master contract, I DONT WANT THEM.

They can take all their rights and privileges and bulls~~~ and stick it up THEIR ASSHOLE.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 3]

I do not care for whatever happens to this society…

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Cthulhu wrote:

I think there be a lot of doubling down on the current narrative. For many MGTOW, perhaps all, it won’t matter. Women won’t change and the societies that perhaps never allowed women to participate will be able to overflow and take over those societies that allow women great freedoms. Islam is a great example. It’s coming and in a few more generations, they’ll still be reproducing and slapping their women down. We, on the other hand, will have stopped reproducing and letting the women get run the hell over by jihadi Joe. Society will eventually reset and balance. Libraries will get burnt and the next society will have to learn the hard way like we did.

Pretty much how I see it as well. Islam’s pretty f~~~ed up in a lot more ways than we are though…even though they might be more patriarchal they don’t exactly have their s~~~ together…but if not Islam…sooner or later a culture with their s~~~ together will surpass the current dominant cultures. Its been repeated throughout history…I don’t think the way our current society functions is immune.

xanthine wrote:

The only reason men work as hard and produce as much as they do is because there is a reward. They get to enjoy the fruits of their labors in the form of wealth and status. Previously it would afford them a quality wife as well, but those days are long gone, and with it one of the strongest motives of male production that ever existed.

Agreed. I make a pretty good wage…enough to afford a stay at home wife, a few kids, and a nice house if I wanted…but I don’t. I’d just end up with a post waller who wants to pop out a kid or two, then divorce rape me and put me in the poor house, and buying a nice house in my high tax state for 1 person is just a straight up waste of money in my opinion. If I were to buy a house it would be more because I wanted the land it came on, and it would be in a lower tax state.

So where does that leave me? The fruits of my labor just has to support 1 person, not 2 and some minors. The total amount of money I need to earn before I can simply drop out of the labor force is probably less than 1/4 of what I’d have to earn in my life if I had a family to support, and less than 1/6 of what I’d have to earn if I got divorce raped. When I look around at the quality of woman I’d reasonably expect to marry, and how stacked against me the laws are…its just not worth it when it would probably result in me having to work an extra 15-30 years of my life away depending how things turned out.

This really puts men in an interesting position. I don’t have to be a work horse my entire life…and in fact if I’m smart with my money and work hard when I’m young…there really is no reason I can’t retire early as f~~~. I think the idea of retiring at 40 with a wife and kids is pretty much a pipe dream, but with the rate I’ve been going, I’d call retiring at 40 a conservative estimate of when I’d have the passive income to pull the plug on working.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Women and the government will attempt to steal anything not nailed down.
I expect to see bail-ins. At some point, we may see the Biblical mark of the beast, although I’m no expert.
I personally try to keep some money in physical gold and silver kept outside the banking system. As Thatcher said, socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.

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