First relations~~~…female family members

[Great-OzParticipant 226]

Greetings fellow MGTOW members,

I have been making my way through the various forums. I know that many men speak about their relationships with various wives, girlfriends, and female “friends”. I notice that there seems to be a missing category. One that happens to be very near and dear to my heart…the manipulation of our female family members to try and tear down men so that other women have less resistance to deal with.

I’d like to start this with a very simple story regarding my mother and her constant working on me as a child to impart the concept that women should always receive status, rights, or privileges equal to men and if at all possible greater then men. I’m older than my sister by four years. In childhood terms that is a large gap in terms of what a child should or should  not be allowed to do. Growing up whenever I’d be allowed to do something, as simple as being allowed to ride my bike, my mother would insist that my sister be allowed to do exactly what I was doing. At ten years old I wanted to ride my bike over to a friends house across a rather busy street. I was told to allow my six year old sister to accompany me, because she was just as entitled as me. What ended up happening is that I had to allow her to tag along and then when she refused to cross the busy street take her home. Then because she wanted to go, but I couldn’t get her there without crossing the street I was kept from going all together.

This theme ran through my entire childhood. I write this simple post to warn those that are fathers to not allow their wives to beat down their sons. We need to teach the MGTOW ideals to our sons, biologically or not, in order to keep them from falling into the traps that have been laid in their paths. Traps that they often don’t even know exist.

Thank you for reading my little rant.

"Life is the future, not the past." Wizard's 7th rule, Terry Goodkind

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Holy cow!  That’s a very good point!

My sister, about 5 1/2 years my junior, was always given equal or preferential treatment to me.  When cell phones were becoming a popular thing, my mother said it would basically be a “cold day in Hades before I got a cell phone at my age.”  I finally was allowed one at 17 years old when I got my first job.  My sister, 12 at the time, was given one as well…despite the fact that my mother said she didn’t think young teens should have them.

I was also not allowed to have a lock on my door.  I didn’t really do anything bad behind a closed door, but from what my parents said, I “didn’t deserve any privacy, as I was only a child.”  My sister, however?  Got a lock installed on her door when she was about 13 or so.

I wasn’t allowed to watch ANY movie past a PG rating as a child, unless it was something that didn’t have sex, drugs, or cursing in it (like Lord of the Rings, for example).  My sister was shown Titanic at 13 years old as part of her “home school project.”

Now, one of us is getting assistance from family to attend school while having a kid at 17, while the other is left fending for themselves at 26 years old and unable to afford anything but to live paycheck-to-paycheck.  I’ll leave it to you to guess who is who in that instance.

This isn’t intended to be a jealous rant, but to be one that shows one thing I’ve noticed, and not only in my family!  Daughters are generally favored over sons.  When a daughter screws up, it’s up to the family to run to her aid.  When a son screws up, it’s up to him to “man up” and push through everything himself.  If he asks for help from the family, he is to be shamed and reminded how much of a hassle it is to help him.

[Great-OzParticipant 226]

Yes, it wasn’t until I was an adult that it all came into real focus for me. I fear that so many men look at how they deal with women in the adult world that they don’t catch it when the same thing is happening under their nose in their own home. I refuse to allow sure treatment of male children any further.

"Life is the future, not the past." Wizard's 7th rule, Terry Goodkind

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

This actually hits on a question that I started asking myself this morning. I was thinking about it because of the responses I had gotten about asking if MGTOW should have a political party. So according to most members MGTOW is not really a cohesive movement but a group of men who have decided to move in the same direction independently, at what point do we start trying to educate boys toward becoming real men? Do we take up such a thing as a group and if so how do we go about it? I realize that MGTOW seems to be picking up steam with younger men but should every man have to try to find their way out of the feminist pussification camps on their own or should we as responsible men try to save kids from them in the first place.

I do not intend this to be an endorsement of anything, just questions I have been asking myself and would welcome others insight into.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

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